At the end of regulation, they reviewed the call and did not over turn it. I guess I am biased, but it looked like it was 100% clear that Tennesse knocked the ball out of bounds. The announcers aren't biased and they said it was clearly off Tennessee and will be Aggie ball. They were pretty certain as well. What the heck happened???? Game changing call
Terrible missed call
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Lots of questionable calls at the end and overtime. We still had our chances.
Can't put yourself into a position where refs can't hurt you. It was a bad call but if we make our free throws, it's irrelevant
Also couldn't watch just followed the game tracker. The Fouls seemed a lot one sided. Was that the case or were we really careless?
BigT29 said:
Also couldn't watch just followed the game tracker. The Fouls seemed a lot one sided. Was that the case or were we really careless?
We had a lot of unnecessary and careless fouls, the announcers even called it out a couple of times
BigT29 said:
Also couldn't watch just followed the game tracker. The Fouls seemed a lot one sided. Was that the case or were we really careless?
Tennessee got a couple of rebounds late in regulation where our guy was in position but Tennessee went over the back to grab the rebound and it was not called. One of them Dominguez got shoved out of the way. No call
HoustonAg2106 said:BigT29 said:
Also couldn't watch just followed the game tracker. The Fouls seemed a lot one sided. Was that the case or were we really careless?
We had a lot of unnecessary and careless fouls, the announcers even called it out a couple of times
The announcers basically say every call is good.
Shocker. We didnt get the calls on the road at a ranked team with a HOF coach. Make your FTs and it doesn't matter.
Dominguez has to knock down the open 3 at the end. End of story
cords12 said:BigT29 said:
Also couldn't watch just followed the game tracker. The Fouls seemed a lot one sided. Was that the case or were we really careless?
Tennessee got a couple of rebounds late in regulation where our guy was in position but Tennessee went over the back to grab the rebound and it was not called. One of them Dominguez got shoved out of the way. No call
I know the play you are referencing. Ruben needs to step into the guy and box out. For whatever reason, even with bloody contact, refs won't call over the back unless the inside guy does everything perfectly and even then they rarely call it.
I could see that it was a bad call and I was on the third deck of the arena.
jeremy said:cords12 said:BigT29 said:
Also couldn't watch just followed the game tracker. The Fouls seemed a lot one sided. Was that the case or were we really careless?
Tennessee got a couple of rebounds late in regulation where our guy was in position but Tennessee went over the back to grab the rebound and it was not called. One of them Dominguez got shoved out of the way. No call
I know the play you are referencing. Ruben needs to step into the guy and box out. For whatever reason, even with bloody contact, refs won't call over the back unless the inside guy does everything perfectly and even then they rarely call it.
Bucky screwed that by taking out the bigs prior to that. Just ensure the rebound and then call the TO. His substitution was a terrible choice given the rebounding all game.
Ol Mase said:
Dominguez has to knock down the open 3 at the end. End of story
Huh?
It was stupid end-game basketball, which has been a real problem for us in most our games lately.
Refs didn't let us touch the ball after 20 sec. That was the game. Tenn was outta bounds before that but they bailed em out w a suspect push foul
I was thinking the same thing.
We really need a solo type guy in this team. Springy, athletic. Okafor was it for Tennessee
We really need a solo type guy in this team. Springy, athletic. Okafor was it for Tennessee
t - cam said:Ol Mase said:
Dominguez has to knock down the open 3 at the end. End of story
Huh?
End of the first OT. Tie game and Reuben had a wide open look that likely wins it that didn't go down.
The standard of officiating is non existent right now. There are no standards whatsoever.
Will the gambling scandal in the NBA I'm done assuming it was a missed call. The ref overruled video evidence to give the ball back to Tennessee to help them win. There's no other explanation, it was clearly off the Tennessee player
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Can't put yourself into a position where refs can't hurt you. It was a bad call but if we make our free throws, it's irrelevant
Is it irrelevant to have your best player and big man playing with 4 fouls and unable to play defense for 2 OT's plus? How do you put yourself in position for that?
Ol Mase said:
Dominguez has to knock down the open 3 at the end. End of story
That's a lower percentage shot than the 4 free throws we missed just before that
I agree the officiating wasn't great, but we have no one to blame but ourselves for that loss. Seems like we flirt with giving away games often and this time it bit us. Several areas where this team needs to improve. Decision making late in the game, finishing close to the basket, poor passing, etc. I am amazed at times at the mistakes we make and yet we are still in the game. Can't imagine what we would be if we could clean up some of these things.
Back to back free throw plays where the ball was going out of bounds. First play, Pop is called for a push (foul). I thought it was a weak call, but whatever, I moved on. Second play, we are pushed, just as hard, if not harder, no foul, and the ball is called off of us!
Winning is hard for so many reasons. I have a huge problem with one of those reasons being horrible officiating. I can forgive some mistakes made at full speed, there is so much going on within a game. But, I don't understand getting f'd over on a review. The announcers thought it was our ball... I think they even commented on that Tenn fans knew it was going to get changed, because the crowd was so quiet during the review.
I'd probably feel the same way last week if I was an Auburn fan. In that instance, the refs are reversing the call on the floor without even grabbing a mic and trying to give a reason as to why. That sucks. Where is the accountability for officials?
I'd probably feel the same way last week if I was an Auburn fan. In that instance, the refs are reversing the call on the floor without even grabbing a mic and trying to give a reason as to why. That sucks. Where is the accountability for officials?
This was a good example of why I think they should fundamentally change the out of bounds rule in the replay era and it should be about who caused it to go out of bounds rather than trying to break down whose fingertip molecules were the last to graze the ball.
Topher17 said:t - cam said:Ol Mase said:
Dominguez has to knock down the open 3 at the end. End of story
Huh?
End of the first OT. Tie game and Reuben had a wide open look that likely wins it that didn't go down.
He made the three that helped us beat Auburn, but missed this one. So be it.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
bobinator said:
This was a good example of why I think they should fundamentally change the out of bounds rule in the replay era and it should be about who caused it to go out of bounds rather than trying to break down whose fingertip molecules were the last to graze the ball.
That's what made it so stupid. Our guy is grabbing the ball. Their guy swiping at it. Ball ends up going out of bounds the exact direction their guy swiped. Out on us? Only in college basketball is the ball given to Tenn. Seemed like those refs were easily influenced by the crowd if not just completely incompetent.
bobinator said:
This was a good example of why I think they should fundamentally change the out of bounds rule in the replay era and it should be about who caused it to go out of bounds rather than trying to break down whose fingertip molecules were the last to graze the ball.
1000% this. Absolutely drives me crazy. I'm not sure how the rule would be phrased exactly to avoid somewhat blurry cases where the ball gets slightly jarred out and then the offensive player loses control of it vs. what we are talking about, but I'm sure they could come up with something. Prior to slow motion replays, no reasonable person ever argued that the offensive player was the last to touch the ball in the type of situation in which the ball is slapped/pushed/poked out by the defender.
Just remember, refs are not our friends and never will be.
bobinator said:
This was a good example of why I think they should fundamentally change the out of bounds rule in the replay era and it should be about who caused it to go out of bounds rather than trying to break down whose fingertip molecules were the last to graze the ball.
I agree in principle BUT... once we allow the refs to have discretion, it's like pandoras box and I kind of worry about what kind of idiotic calls they'll make if we let them decide who caused it to go out of bounds.
caleblyn said:
Back to back free throw plays where the ball was going out of bounds. First play, Pop is called for a push (foul). I thought it was a weak call, but whatever, I moved on. Second play, we are pushed, just as hard, if not harder, no foul, and the ball is called off of us!
Tennessee guy flopped
Yeah because they're totally nailing it right now.
My thing is that the spirit of the rule is clearly about who caused it to go out of bounds. It's dumb that a defensive player can swipe at the ball but if it happens to graze a fingernail on the way out then it's out on the offense.
This is also much easier to see in real time versus the ends of peoples fingers. It would make most out of bounds calls much easier.
My thing is that the spirit of the rule is clearly about who caused it to go out of bounds. It's dumb that a defensive player can swipe at the ball but if it happens to graze a fingernail on the way out then it's out on the offense.
This is also much easier to see in real time versus the ends of peoples fingers. It would make most out of bounds calls much easier.
I agree with you in cases like the other night, but what if a guy swipes at the ball and it clearly bounces off the knee/foot of the ball handler?
What I really don't like about replay is why the original call matters. If after review, it's still not sure who the ball is/was out on, then just go to the possession arrow.
Similar to other sports, the call on the field should have no bearing on the outcome after video replay.
What I really don't like about replay is why the original call matters. If after review, it's still not sure who the ball is/was out on, then just go to the possession arrow.
Similar to other sports, the call on the field should have no bearing on the outcome after video replay.
Then the ball handlers body made the ball go out of bounds, not the defensive contact. There was an offseason thread that I typed up a more specific wording of how this would work, but the key is that the ball contact has to directly result in the ball going out of bounds.
If I slap the ball but then it bounces off your foot, my contact didn't directly make it go out of bounds, your foot did.
There are some cases where neither player is possessing the ball where it would revert to the current rule, but we could save a lot of time on replays.
You also don't have to go all the way to this, it could be a secondary rule where if it's hard to determine live or on replay who touched it last, then you look at who forced the ball out of bounds.
If I slap the ball but then it bounces off your foot, my contact didn't directly make it go out of bounds, your foot did.
There are some cases where neither player is possessing the ball where it would revert to the current rule, but we could save a lot of time on replays.
You also don't have to go all the way to this, it could be a secondary rule where if it's hard to determine live or on replay who touched it last, then you look at who forced the ball out of bounds.
I'm fine with the rule as is. Just handle reviews properly or hell, don't even do them. Just get f'ed over by it at full speed or let refs choose to let a no foul 50/50 play resulting in an out of bounds go to the offense like the good old days.
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