There was no change of possession. Maybe I don't the rule there but that was BS

Still BS because I bet if we didn't tie them up, they would not have called the 10 seconds anyways

They absolutely would have called the backcourt violation

It did seem to be more than 10 seconds

Yes. That was unlucky. But that's basketball.

Who?mikejones! said:

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Sometimes youre on the wrong side of the .01, sometimes youre on the right side

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Well…it's 0.1, but I get your point. I bet Auburn wishes they had that extra 0.1 against the Ags.

Its a joke bro.

Who?mikejones! said:

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Its a joke bro.

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I was going to make the same comment in another thread but remembered the situations are completely different

it was definitely tied up before the 10 seconds- more like 9.5 and then 9.9 when clock stopped.

I knew we were screwed the moment Frederiko jumped in there. a terrible mistake on his part.

even if you didnt kniw exactly where the 10 sec was, should have had SOME idea they were getting clise and know there's no way thst ball is getting possessed in the frontcourt in time.

Did they give Alabama a timeout there? The possession arrow didn't change (at least on TV it didnt). Or did they call a jump ball?

And if they called a jump ball, does the 10 seconds reset? The annnouncers were acting like they had to throw it across half court becuase they had .1 to get it across after the jump ball, but then they did not have to do that. Were the announcers wrong on the rule, or did they give Bama a timeout and not call jump ball?

mavsfan4ever said:

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Did they give Alabama a timeout there? The possession arrow didn't change (at least on TV it didnt). Or did they call a jump ball?

And if they called a jump ball, does the 10 seconds reset? The annnouncers were acting like they had to throw it across half court becuase they had .1 to get it across after the jump ball, but then they did not have to do that. Were the announcers wrong on the rule, or did they give Bama a timeout and not call jump ball?

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Yes, they gave Bama a time out...no jump ball

Yes, the 10 seconds resets after the TO.

The announcers made several rules/logistics mistakes last night. No surprise...the broadcast team was like the 4th best SEC Network crew. It's not like we had the ESPN A-Team calling the game.

They actually did call a jump ball, but then Bama also called a timeout to reset the 10 seconds.

bobinator said:

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They actually did call a jump ball, but then Bama also called a timeout to reset the 10 seconds.

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Correct...but ultimately the refs overruled the held ball and gave Bama a TO. At least that's what the box score play-by-play shows.

Luke The Drifter said:

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mavsfan4ever said:

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Did they give Alabama a timeout there? The possession arrow didn't change (at least on TV it didnt). Or did they call a jump ball?

And if they called a jump ball, does the 10 seconds reset? The annnouncers were acting like they had to throw it across half court becuase they had .1 to get it across after the jump ball, but then they did not have to do that. Were the announcers wrong on the rule, or did they give Bama a timeout and not call jump ball?

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Yes, they gave Bama a time out...no jump ball

Yes, the 10 seconds resets after the TO.

The announcers made several rules/logistics mistakes last night. No surprise...the broadcast team was like the 4th best SEC Network crew. It's not like we had the ESPN A-Team calling the game.

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not in college but an alternate possession does

Official play by play feed has both.

Other way around

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The 10-second count shall be reset on all stoppages of the game clock except when the defense causes the ball to be out of bounds, the offense retains the possession after a held ball, or there is a technical foul assessed against the offensive team. The offensive team will always have a reset of the 10-second count if the team is charged a timeout

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I dont think a time out changes that 10 second call Alternate possession situation does

NCAA but HS is a reset


Key 10-Second Backcourt Rules:

• No Reset: A timeout by the team in control does not reset the 10-second count.
• Deflections: If the defense deflects the ball out of bounds, the 10-second count does not reset.
• Continuous Control: The count is based on continuous team control in the backcourt.
• Exceptions: The count is only reset if the defensive team gains possession or a new sequence begins (e.g., a new throw-in after a foul or violation by the defense).

My post is literally a paragraph from the NCAA rule book

NCAA

Key 2025-26 Season Rule Updates

• Coach Challenges: Coaches can now challenge specific live-play situations.
• Continuation: Updated rules on continuous motion for shooting fouls.
• Rule Clarifications: Refinements to contact fouls in the groin area.
• 10-Second Rule: Teams have 10 seconds to advance the ball past half-court; this count does not reset on a timeout.

I don't know if you're asking an AI or what, but there was not a change to the backcourt rule in college basketball this season.

This is Section 10 of Rule 9 in the 2025-26 NCAA Rule book:

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RULE 9 / VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES
SECTION 10. 10-SECOND BACKCOURT
The 10-second count shall begin when a player legally touches the ball in the backcourt, except on a rebound or jump ball. In such case, the 10-second count shall start on player control. Once the 10-second count begins, an inbounds player or the player's team shall not be in continuous control of a ball that is in the backcourt for 10 consecutive seconds. The ball gains frontcourt status when it touches the frontcourt, touches a player or an official in contact with the frontcourt, or when both feet of the dribbler and the ball contact the frontcourt. The 10-second count shall be reset on all stoppages of the game clock except when the defense causes the ball to be out of bounds, the offense retains the possession after a held ball, or there is a technical foul assessed against the offensive team. The offensive team will always have a reset of the 10-second count if the team is charged a timeout.

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Divining Rod said:

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it was definitely tied up before the 10 seconds- more like 9.5 and then 9.9 when clock stopped.

I knew we were screwed the moment Frederiko jumped in there. a terrible mistake on his part.

even if you didnt kniw exactly where the 10 sec was, should have had SOME idea they were getting clise and know there's no way thst ball is getting possessed in the frontcourt in time.

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I think you're asking far too much of any college player... Hell, any pro player.

When you're taught effort and going after loose balls, to think a player in the heat of the moment is going to think "I shouldn't go after this one because in a few more seconds it will be 10 second call" is at a level that only elites are at.

Agree with bob - full reset after timeout. Don't you think all parties involved would have been quite aware of the rule if no reset?

Bucky was annimated about something on the court during that play

Not sure what is was because they had changed the clock from 15.2 to 15.0 and there was still 5.1 left

If Oats called time out did they have possession of the ball ...if jump ball alternate possession it for sure resets the 10 seconds

No clue as to what he was arguing about

I'm assuming Wicked Good Ag has me ignored or something?

stand corrected NCAA Women's not Men's


NCAA Mens

Ten-Second Rule Must advance from backcourt. Count starts on player control. Must advance from backcourt. Count starts on legal touch of a throw-in and on control for rebounds and jump balls. Same as NCAA Men.
Reset
Reset on new throw-in. No count reset when defense causes out-of-bounds violation, team in control retains possession after a held ball or a technical foul assessed to the team in control. Reset on timeout by team in control.

Womens

No count reset when defense causes out-ofbounds violation, team in control retains possession after a held ball or an Administrative Technical Foul is assessed to the team in control. No reset on timeout by team in control

Time out was awarded not jump ball

Plus in this case if he doesn't go after it Alabama could have just called a timeout on the floor anyway once they gained possession. There were still like four seconds on the ten second count when the ball first got loose.