Tight game... the difference

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9 seconds and Rilen makes a horrid closeout and their guy kicks to a corner 3 and the gumps go up 2.

Then Marcus has Philon hemmed in and he got too aggressive .

Little things, but proud of our Ags.

Need everyone who is playing better to stay hot and get Griffen back to aggressive form.
Pichael Thompson
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Also cheating ass refs
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I mean, Holloway traveled and hooked Hill on the play and got bailed out with one second on the shot clock. Hill defended very well on that possession.
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I thought they made their shots around the rim under 6 and we didn't between pop, dibba and lane getting good looks. Pop tried to get the foul call going to the floor, was another 5 point swing he caused with them getting the open corner 3 with him not playing defense.

Thought it was a fun game. We won't win all of them, sometimes the ball rolls in after dancing on the rim, sometimes it falls out.
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Pichael Thompson said:

Also cheating ass refs


The officiating was bad. I dont know how many games I watch (all teams) a dribbler put his forearm into the defender and PUSh hard enough to get 6 feet of separation. Never called.

And Alabama had 9 fouls in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half, but only 3!!? in the first half? Garbage.

Different game if they called half of the fouls in the first half they should have.
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Speaking of bounce, the first 30 minutes of the game, every 50/50 ball went to Bama. The type Im talking about aren't the effort 50/50, just the weird bounce ones. We had 3 or 4 steals in the first 10 minutes that just bounced the wrong way and fell into their arms.
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I knew the game was fixed when Pop reached for a steal, the bama point guard hooked Pop's arm, and the pos ref called the foul on Pop


I was proud of Pop for keeping his cool though


That pos ref deserved to get jacked in the forehead
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I can't stand when people cry about refs.

Play better.
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When do they and when do they not review hook and hold? Looked like he hook and held pop.
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I thought the difference was how Alabama attacked early after breaking the press. Every one else in sec games have pulled it out and set it up after breaking the press.

Alabama attacked early and often. I'm surprised other teams haven't done similar.
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They've tried but it's hard to do when that's not always how you play. It is how Alabama plays.
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Georgia did it a bit to us in the second half.
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Refs called an even game. Missed a bunch both ways.

Anyone's game. Bama had the final run.

Excellent job by the Ags.
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Pichael Thompson said:

I knew the game was fixed when Pop reached for a steal, the bama point guard hooked Pop's arm, and the pos ref called the foul on Pop


I was proud of Pop for keeping his cool though


That pos ref deserved to get jacked in the forehead

I thought that was a good and crafty play by the Bama player.
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Southlake said:

Refs called an even game. Missed a bunch both ways.

Anyone's game. Bama had the final run.

Excellent job by the Ags.

They called 3 fouls on Alabama in the first half. 9 on us. Nothing even about that.
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My beef was less with the team splits and more the half splits. 13 fouls in the first half and 31 in the second.

Alabama was attacking the basket and with our pressing you expect us to foul a little more, but then to completely change it up in the second half was nuts.

There were 17 FTs in the first half, 43 in the second.

I don't think the officiating was overly biased, but you could immediately tell at the beginning of the second half that they were trying tighten the game up and that annoys me.
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The game ended when they hit the 3 before the half. We should've just jumped on the flight home.
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bobinator said:

My beef was less with the team splits and more the half splits. 13 fouls in the first half and 31 in the second.

Alabama was attacking the basket and with our pressing you expect us to foul a little more, but then to completely change it up in the second half was nuts.

This happens ALL the time in college hoops. The lack of in game consistency is infuriating.
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That was my thought as well. I thought the refs were bad, but not one sided bad. The half disparity was also what got me pissed.

Also on my previous thread I made. I read the rule on jump ball being a new possession regardless of who keeps it so now I know.

Agee also had the best purposely missed FT I have ever seen and we almost tied it on that play
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Not even sad. We will learn from his. And it took a completely stacked deck (refs, timekeeper, replay, missed open shots by Ags) for bama to win at home as a nine point favorite.

This team is fun and gonna wreck some teams in March. On to the next one.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Not even sad. We will learn from his. And it took a completely stacked deck (refs, timekeeper, replay, missed open shots by Ags) for bama to win at home as a nine point favorite.

This team is fun and gonna wreck some teams in March. On to the next one.

what was wrong with the timekeeper and replay?

If time was added that was based on refs decision

Time clock uses precision time to go on the whistle with timekeeper as back up if clock doesnt start or in some cases doesnt stop bu that would be by review as well using cameras

Replay didnt change the one call Bama challenged for them. We didnt challenge the change in the call out of bounds


Just because we dont understand something that does or does not happen doesnt mean it was done incorrectly or out to screw over the Ags

We played well we made mistakes and had some unfortunate things happen but we played harder and better than i thought we would on Bama home floor

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I thought the teams played more aggressively in the second half which led to more fouls. That is common because coaches will frequently go in at half and tell their players to get more aggressive because they have no foul trouble. Once it started getting more physical after 4-6 minutes of action, the officials seemed to tighten down to keep the game from getting out of control.

The biggest impact the officials had was the T on Oates. It helped get us back in the game. It was a great game and unfortunately the Ags didn't come out on top but they again showed they are a contender to win the SEC.
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jeremy said:

Pichael Thompson said:

Also cheating ass refs


The officiating was bad. I dont know how many games I watch (all teams) a dribbler put his forearm into the defender and PUSh hard enough to get 6 feet of separation. Never called.

And Alabama had 9 fouls in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half, but only 3!!? in the first half? Garbage.

Different game if they called half of the fouls in the first half they should have.


That push off with the shoulder was obvious. Except to the only 3 people who needed to call it.
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Pichael Thompson said:

I knew the game was fixed when Pop reached for a steal, the bama point guard hooked Pop's arm, and the pos ref called the foul on


Wow that's some creative viewing. In truth, Isaacs blew a tear drop from 5', then in frustration he was all over the Bama guard as he brought it up the backcourt.

I was cringing as I KNEW poo was about to get a frustration 2-shot foul with just 4:30 left.

Bucky rightly took him out and never put him back in.

Pop needs to get his emotions under control- they lead to terrible decisions.

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Method Man said:

The game ended when they hit the 3 before the half. We should've just jumped on the flight home.

All a result of Pop going full raytard right before that and handing them the ball. Knew when that happened that it would ultimately determine the outcome. If he just holds for the last shot of the half, we win the game. But no, not Pop. Whatever doesn't make any sense, that's what he does.
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jeremy said:

Pichael Thompson said:

Also cheating ass refs


The officiating was bad. I dont know how many games I watch (all teams) a dribbler put his forearm into the defender and PUSh hard enough to get 6 feet of separation. Never called.

And Alabama had 9 fouls in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half, but only 3!!? in the first half? Garbage.

Different game if they called half of the fouls in the first half they should have.


I tend to agree.

It appeared on some of the replays, you would see our guys heads pop back when taking on the bama ball handler(s). I think we need to work on taking the charge when the dribbler comes into the defender's body,

As I've stated previously numerous times, I'm glad buzz is gone, but this was one area where we succeeded in the past under buzz (again, glad he's gone).

TAKE THE CHARGE.
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Got a Natty! said:

Pichael Thompson said:

I knew the game was fixed when Pop reached for a steal, the bama point guard hooked Pop's arm, and the pos ref called the foul on Pop


I was proud of Pop for keeping his cool though


That pos ref deserved to get jacked in the forehead

I thought that was a good and crafty play by the Bama player.


It's crafty when the refs are cheating I guess

But it was a blatant offensive foul.

https://videorulebook.nba.com/archive/offensive-foul-offensive-player-hooks-defender-with-off-arm-2/
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These are not the same thing... I will agree the refs had flaws, but not on this play. Pop fouled before the hook. You cant reach your off ball hand all the way across the defender and make contact with your shoulder. The hooks was unnecessary and "could" have been its own foul also, but Pop had already killed the play.
MetrocrestAg
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Rebounding was the difference.

Bama was plus 8 in offensive rebounding.

That is 6 points using the 45% field goal percentage.
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Pichael Thompson said:

Also cheating ass refs

Dont ruin a tough battled game by blaming the refs. It's like A&M fans never watch college basketball. It was a really good game that you lost on the road with a chance to tie.
Pichael Thompson
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I missed the contact your referencing on the replay. That makes sense though. Thanks for the clarification
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peddler said:

I can't stand when people cry about refs.

Play better.


Crying about refs after every loss is annoying.

We didn't play well enough down the stretch so we lost
FTAG 2000
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Pop made to easy for the ref with his visible frustration and reach in.

The criminal move by the refs was changing the outcome of bounds call with two left in the game without a review
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peddler said:

I can't stand when people cry about refs.

Play better.


This.

Refs are always bad, but they aren't out to get you. I promise you Bama fans were also complaining about the refs in the second half when we got in the double bonus with like 12 minutes to play. How can the refs be out to get both teams? It's part of the game and you have to play better to win.
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