Fearless?

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I don't feel we played fearless tonight.

Too tight and amped early on, but never settled in. Seemed we were worried about getting our shot blocked and afraid of contact for a lot of the game.


Also, this was the first time it didn't seem Bucky made adjustments. At some point, I think we should have stopped the pick and roll attempts since our guys didn't seem to want to take it all the way to the rim.

Furthermore, I think we need to run some action with Ruben off of multiple screens. We really haven't needed to much since December, but tonight we needed to for several reasons. 1. Early on, we couldn't score anywhere. 2. We needed to get Ruben going to open up our offense.
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Yeah, embracing contact is a mindset that is not easy to teach. Their size got in our heads and we couldn't mentally recover.
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We were very amped up at first. Settled for 3s way too early. We already shoot them a bunch, but we shot them a TON in that first segment. Then we start attacking the rim with more set plays and couldn't get anything to go in. Just a bad night and agreed their size made us hesitant.
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Fearless? My second studio album!!!
Rule#2
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taylorswift13_ said:

Fearless? My second studio album!!!
amazing
TjgtAg08
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Felt like the ball wasnt moving nearly as much as it usually does on offense. Lot of dribbling and handing off. They were just so big at every position.
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You look a lot more fearless when you don't begin the game 1 for 27. Bucky described the team as high variance and we saw the low end of the variance band for most of the first half. I still think we'll be fine but there is no mistaking Florida is a cut above as they are huge, talented , and well coached. I know it's not the exact same group as the one that won the national title last year but they are a threat to go deep in the tourney again imo.
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I feel like Florida's defense had a lot to do with the 1-27

We didnt get very many open looks/uncontested shots during that stretch, and the ones we did get it seemed like our guys pressed to make them because they felt they absolutely had to when finally given on open shot, and thus they missed


Just an all around bad night

Just Bounce back and beat mizzou
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Yeah we were ice cold and we took a lot of bad shots. Rough combination.

I agree with the OP that the only real concern from last night is that it's the first time in a while we let an opponent get in our heads. We started passing up some good shots which isn't like us and in the paint we acted like they were 15 feet tall.

But Florida can do that to a lot of teams. It's not a real concern unless it happens in more games.

We always knew that game was likely to go Florida's way.
halfastros81
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Yeah, their 15 ft tall guy didn't even play
BubblesMcGee
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taylorswift13_ said:

Fearless? My second studio album!!!


I laughed - was looking for a bright spot after last night. And, TS13, I have to commend you on some great lyrics:

Cause I don't know how it gets better than this
You take my hand and drag me head first
Fearless
And I don't know why
But with you I'd dance in a storm
In my best dress
Fearless
nothingbutlove
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More bright spots:

Acie Law was there.

1976 SWC Champs were at the game.

Baseball team was at the game.

And there was a guy balancing stuff on his face.
PJYoung
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halfastros81 said:

Yeah, their 15 ft tall guy didn't even play


#3 is 7 foot 1


MagnumLoad
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FL beat Bama by 23. They are a final 4 team. We were shooting over trees that could run. We ain't there yet. And we shot horribly. We aren't bad shooters either. Probably tired legs.
I hate tu. It's in my blood.
BubblesMcGee
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You have any photos of the guy balancing stuff on his face? That had to be special!
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nothingbutlove said:

More bright spots:

Acie Law was there.

1976 SWC Champs were at the game.

Baseball team was at the game.

And there was a guy balancing stuff on his face.


Too bad they all saw a terrible outing
PJYoung
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MagnumLoad said:

FL beat Bama by 23. They are a final 4 team. We were shooting over trees that could run. We ain't there yet. And we shot horribly. We aren't bad shooters either. Probably tired legs.


They were over amped for big crowd then tried to do too much when shots weren't falling
PJYoung
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And Florida played great
CapCityAg89
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I disagree with Bob to an extent. Most of those early misses were good open shots. Maybe we thought the size would be an issue and didn't shoot with the same confidence but UF didnt look great in the first half and we let them off the hook. We were down 11 and should've been up 10-12.

Later, I agree we took bad shots but by then Florida was warmed up.
bobinator
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Some of them weren't awful but also weren't what I'd call good either. A lot of bad feet and shooting shots out of rhythm. Not all of them though and we definitely missed some really good shots too.

That's why it was definitely both for me. We were definitely cold, and we took some bad to semi-bad shorts , but you'd still expect us to shoot better than we did even if we were shooting from the halfcourt circle.
nothingbutlove
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BubblesMcGee said:

You have any photos of the guy balancing stuff on his face? That had to be special!

No photos, unfortunately.

He did put a giant ladder on his face at the end.

Tyler's Amazing Balancing Act was the name of the performance.
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Thanks. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. Indeed, a giant ladder!

http://www.amazingtyler.com/
Divining Rod
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I had no problem with our stlyle. we took a lot of good shots- we were just ice cold. And yes, we were definitely intimidated by them.

Also our quick turnaround from Bama and their off-week played a big part.

I thought our set D was really good. Kind of shiwed me we CAN play with any team. Hopefully someone else knocks iut Florida, and there arent likely any teams built like them that we'll face.
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Rule#2 said:

taylorswift13_ said:

Fearless? My second studio album!!!

amazing

Nope, that was Aerosmith.
nothingbutlove
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BubblesMcGee said:

Thanks. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. Indeed, a giant ladder!

http://www.amazingtyler.com/




It was like the circus came to Reed.

People seemed a little wtf when he was announced, but at the end, he was given a warm round of applause.

The whole thing made me chuckle.
Wicked Good Ag
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It is all about how we shoot. While Florida had a huge height advantage they didnt make us miss the open jumpers just caused havoc if we tried to go into the paint by us having to alter our shots

In our three losses that we really werent in the game or shouldnt have lost we shot

OK State .322 field / .257 from 3
Cen Fla .368 field /.310 from 3
Florida .305 field / .265 from 3

WITH THOSE GAMES ABOVE INCLUDED

we shoot .467 field and .370 from 3 for season

Florida broke our press/ defense quite well for as big as they are reason they are defending champs

We will have plenty of days when someone is off shooting wise...but we have plenty of shooters to mix in if one or two have bad games but if you cant get the turnovers and no one shoots well for most part we likely wont win against top tier teams

No need to change the game plan other that no matter who you play dont start thegame on 1-27 shooting

CapCityAg89
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Florida just threw big to big over the top of the press. It was totally disheartening. Other teams don't have 7 foot guys with handles.
Aston04
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The last two games the press has been bad. That is concerning. You know we are going to give up some layups, so we got to at least get some more turnovers out of it and turn the ball more (make them work).
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nothingbutlove said:

BubblesMcGee said:

Thanks. As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. Indeed, a giant ladder!

http://www.amazingtyler.com/




It was like the circus came to Reed.

People seemed a little wtf when he was announced, but at the end, he was given a warm round of applause.

The whole thing made me chuckle.

Likewise.

Found myself contemplating the young man's career choice. Wonder how long it lasts....how it might evolve?
BubblesMcGee
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Two thoughts …..

Meet my son (father, brother, etc), the doctor, lawyer, … err, "performer" and

Find something you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

I suspect he loves the positive reenforcement from sports fans and does well financially.
PJYoung
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Aston04 said:

The last two games the press has been bad. That is concerning. You know we are going to give up some layups, so we got to at least get some more turnovers out of it and turn the ball more (make them work).


The press outcome has been bad. I think it was more about the opposition than it was about us.
bobinator
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I still would argue the press wasn't bad against Alabama. Despite what Bucky has said I think people still mostly look at the press solely in terms of fatigue and turnovers.

I'd even argue it wasn't bad for the first half against Florida until we started having to be riskier and riskier with it early in the second half and then things fell apart.

This is the big difference between our press system and a classic "40 minutes of hell" system. It's not just about turnovers and fatigue. There are other factors also, and depending on the game we're in they can change.

- It can be about time. Maybe we're playing a team that runs a very good half court offense and if you let them just bring the ball up the court uncontested, you're defending that half court offense for 30 seconds. If they're having to break the press, and then reset into their half court offense, maybe you're only defending it for 15 or 20. I'd argue this is where it semi-worked against Florida in the first half. They weren't exactly getting stellar looks either.

- It can be about our own offense. This is where I'd say it was effective against Alabama (and Georgia). Alabama is way more athletic than we are, and if we let them get set up in a half court defense we're not going to be nearly as effective. So we press to force the game tempo. Alabama wants to play fast two, so instead of breaking the press and resetting, they're going to break it and keep attacking, this keeps the overall game tempo high which results in some baskets for them, but also maximizes our chances on offense. The Alabama and Georgia games were our best offensive performances of the season against a Quad 1 or Quad 2 opponent.
PJYoung
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Yeah that's a good point - I was just looking at turnovers caused but running down the shot clock for their half court offense is a big part of what makes a press effective.

As you said, I would ignore most of the 2nd half versus Florida as Bucky said we upped the risk to make it a higher variance game since that was our only chance to get back into it.
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