Students……WTF?

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In reply to bobinator • 9:55a, 3/4/26
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I don't think old army which sold probably 1,000 tickets to Kentucky fans have any place to talk.

Simple truth of this season is that while it's been great for us hardcore fans who know and follow the whole situation, we were ranked for one week and then immediately went on a losing streak. We lost to everyone good we played in non-conference. In our first big Saturday game with a packed house we absolutely got destroyed. Your average fan or student probably has no idea that our game against an unranked Kentucky team was crucial to make the NCAA Tournament, etc.

It just is what it is. Win big games, get ranked, be good all season, and then you can complain about bad crowds.


Telling me when I can and can't complain is hilarious. Having a tourney team in year 1 with a full roster overhaul when our previous coach took 4 years to make his first tourney should be able to get decent student attendance. Again it was our last home game of the season and this was the student crowd we had. Pathetic

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In reply to David_Puddy • 9:59a, 3/4/26
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Why focus on students. They're less than half the locals who depend on the school for their economy…
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10:00a, 3/4/26
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I mean you can complain all you want, it's a free country, I just don't see the point given those parameters I pointed out. Last night's crowd was predictable.
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10:02a, 3/4/26
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Outside of March Madness, most people just don't care about college basketball.
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In reply to TombstoneTex • 10:03a, 3/4/26
Coming out of long-time lurker status to agree. The DJ is awful. Hype Man-Bun needs to settle down. I want to hear yells. I want to hear Hullabaloo. I can't hear them when he is drowning them out, and I'm not going to yell when I'm competing with 95dB of amplified noise. The yell leaders and the DJ used to have that figured out, but the DJ seems to have decided a few games ago that he wasn't going to be quiet for yells anymore. He doesn't need to cram music into every possible moment. I hate that guy.

As far as the students, yeah, attendance was disappointing. However, I was more disappointed in seeing how much blue was in the good seats because season ticket holders can't be bothered. Also, the parking situation was awful last night, which likely didn't help.
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In reply to Traffic Chimp • 10:05a, 3/4/26
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If we're going to really do this right, there needs to be meetings starting as soon as the tournament ends about next season. Everything about the experience from the inside and outside of the arena should be on the table.
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In reply to bobinator • 10:08a, 3/4/26
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bobinator said:
I mean you can complain all you want, it's a free country, I just don't see the point given those parameters I pointed out. Last night's crowd was predictable.


Predictable in what way? I certainly didn't expect a completely full student section, but for the last home game of the season against a big name team having both lower bowls around 50% and a completely empty upper bowl was certainly not on my prediction list.
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In reply to jeremy • 10:10a, 3/4/26
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jeremy said:
New army sucks and so do Aggie fans as a whole outside of football.....Which NEVER delivers anything but heartache.


Like basketball does any better
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In reply to David_Puddy • 10:22a, 3/4/26
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Predictable in every way if you've been following Aggie basketball for very long?

Unranked team versus an unranked team. You keep pointing out the students but it's not like the general public was any better. Take away the Kentucky fans there were probably 7K people there last night maybe.

It's gotten to the point where it's so predictable I basically don't even care anymore.

And this year, like every year we're good, we had our chance to win over some fans with a couple of big games and one of them was an absolute cluster**** in every possible way and then we got smoked on the court anyway and another was a loss to our biggest rival last Saturday in a game that wasn't a particularly fun experience to watch.

Said this a thousand times, we don't need any tricks for getting people into the building, that will happen when we're good and/or we're playing someone good, we need to focus on improving the experience once they're there. The overall at experience at Reed absolutely sucks.
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In reply to Luke The Drifter • 10:26a, 3/4/26
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TombstoneTex said:
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I blame the DJ.

Everyone pretends that they students like tha **** but I don't think that they do.

The DJ is horrible. I made a round trip from Houston to be there with my family and the DJ was playing LOUD non-stop, even over our student yells led by the yell leaders. Not good for the atmosphere.


I live 2 1/2 hours from B/CS and I have been to 4 games this year. I'm not sure I even noticed the DJ more than a couple of times. The yells are a *terrible* fit for basketball. Just terrible. I have no beef with the Yell Leaders one way or the other, but they are a fish out of water at a college basketball game. What the students come up with on their own will always be more effective than any yell.

College basketball is meant to be fun, fast paced, and loud. You can't get that with "Farmers Fight!" or "Load-Ready-Aim-Fire BOOM!" during timeouts or stoppages in play. We did "Sit Down Bus Driver" a couple of times last night and it was weak and ineffective. It just doesn't work.


"Sit down bus driver" may not be as lame as "riffity riff raff" or hissing, but it's pretty damn lame
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In reply to bobinator • 10:29a, 3/4/26
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Predictable in every way if you've been following Aggie basketball for very long?

Unranked team versus an unranked team. You keep pointing out the students but it's not like the general public was any better. Take away the Kentucky fans there were probably 7K people there last night maybe.

It's gotten to the point where it's so predictable I basically don't even care anymore.

And this year, like every year we're good, we had our chance to win over some fans with a couple of big games and one of them was an absolute cluster**** in every possible way and then we got smoked on the court anyway and another was a loss to our biggest rival last Saturday in a game that wasn't a particularly fun experience to watch.

Said this a thousand times, we don't need any tricks for getting people into the building, that will happen when we're good and/or we're playing someone good, we need to focus on improving the experience once they're there. The overall at experience at Reed absolutely sucks.


I've been following it longer than you, as I was attending games in G Rollie. I know you like to always get in the last word around here, but the alumni section on both sides was at least 85%+ full and about 40% full in the upper deck from what I saw across from me (didn't look up to see what the crowd looked like behind me). It was a lot better than the student attendance. Had we beaten Texas on Saturday, sadly I think the attendance would have been about the same.
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In reply to David_Puddy • 10:31a, 3/4/26
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The official attendance last night was 8,062. Not a single section of that place was 85% full.
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In reply to bobinator • 10:33a, 3/4/26
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Wrong
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In reply to bobinator • 10:49a, 3/4/26
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Have to consider tho that 70,000 current students live within a 5 miles of Reed . I couldn't really say how many former students live within say 20 miles tho… maybe it's more than that , would just be guessing

Both groups were woefully underrepresented imo for a game against Kentucky with a likely tourney bid on the line for us. I understand this is the norm and winning solves the issue. I am just frustrated about it because it seems fixable . Great support begets winning… winning begets great support.
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In reply to David_Puddy • 11:01a, 3/4/26
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I mean you can literally count the empty seats if you want. I think my entire section in the corner had like 25 people in it. I'm not going to argue with you about one game's exact attendance numbers, who cares, maybe you're right and those three sections had 85% but there were still probably somewhere between 500 and 1,000 Kentucky fans who bought tickets from our season ticket holders.

I'm just saying I was texting friends of mine earlier in the day that the crowd was going to be horrible. There were like seven threads on premium of people just giving away tickets to the game. It was entirely predictable that crowd wasn't going to be good last night.
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In reply to greg.w.h • 11:07a, 3/4/26
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Until the community stops being self-absorbed and enjoys what is "happening" (in a 60s sense), this likely will stay the same. I've never been a fan of spreading enthusiasm through guilt. And A&M has a history of doing exactly that.

Anybody got a clue as to what this means? Other than gwh's posts being about a winky face, what is he talking about here.
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In reply to @coopercuffe • 11:08a, 3/4/26
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@coopercuffe said:
As a current student, we have terrible marketing when it comes to basketball. We choose to market for the big games and just say whatever about the others hoping that people show up.

I know when I was a student it seemed like most of the attendance to sporting events came from the dorms. I spent 4.5 years on campus and always saw the same people at games. Our dorm used to have a group that went to nearly every sport. Also helped that upperclassmen lived on campus and organized this.

These days there are only freshmen and they have no clue what is going on
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In reply to halfastros81 • 11:08a, 3/4/26
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My thing is that the experience itself mostly sucks, so the only time people feel like it's worth it is for VERY big games. And a VERY big game for a regular joe isn't two unranked teams.

But every time we get good we have a big game and it's a total cluster****. How many stories on here from the Florida game of people not getting into their seats until halfway through the first half because of parking. The concessions are both terrible and absurdly expensive. Leaving the game is an absolute trainwreck. Supposedly there was a student line that was still back halfway to the street that didn't even make it in the door for the Florida game. The in-game atmosphere needs some work, etc, etc.

We need to fix that first. Make coming to a game an experience people want to take part in, not something that people are sitting there thinking about whether or not it's worth it.

Fix that and THEN when people don't show up for an important game you've got a good leg to stand on.
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In reply to Captain Pablo • 11:11a, 3/4/26
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Captain Pablo said:
Luke The Drifter said:
TombstoneTex said:
agsalaska said:
I blame the DJ.

Everyone pretends that they students like tha **** but I don't think that they do.

The DJ is horrible. I made a round trip from Houston to be there with my family and the DJ was playing LOUD non-stop, even over our student yells led by the yell leaders. Not good for the atmosphere.


I live 2 1/2 hours from B/CS and I have been to 4 games this year. I'm not sure I even noticed the DJ more than a couple of times. The yells are a *terrible* fit for basketball. Just terrible. I have no beef with the Yell Leaders one way or the other, but they are a fish out of water at a college basketball game. What the students come up with on their own will always be more effective than any yell.

College basketball is meant to be fun, fast paced, and loud. You can't get that with "Farmers Fight!" or "Load-Ready-Aim-Fire BOOM!" during timeouts or stoppages in play. We did "Sit Down Bus Driver" a couple of times last night and it was weak and ineffective. It just doesn't work.


"Sit down bus driver" may not be as lame as "riffity riff raff" or hissing, but it's pretty damn lame

"Sit down bus driver" is one of my favorites - but it does require the student section to be more than 1/2 full...
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In reply to jeremy • 11:13a, 3/4/26
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jeremy said:
New army sucks and so do Aggie fans as a whole outside of football.....Which NEVER delivers anything but heartache.


You need to attend a baseball game.
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In reply to bobinator • 11:17a, 3/4/26
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Totally fair . All fixable imo. I guess maybe calling the Ath Department and unloading on them about it en masse might do some good ? maybe?

I am definitely guilty of thinking others care about basketball like I do especially tourney basketball . The tourney is probably the biggest annual sporting event in the country in terms of overall public interest over an extended timeframe and it just baffles me why Ags (fans and Ath Dept) can't get on board with it .
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In reply to bobinator • 11:56a, 3/4/26
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If we're going to really do this right, there needs to be meetings starting as soon as the tournament ends about next season. Everything about the experience from the inside and outside of the arena should be on the table.

Completely agree with this. I believe they brought someone in a few years ago to modify the gameday experience at Kyle. I hope they can do something similar for Reed for all of the court sports. Reed itself is a clunker, but we can still make it a better gameday experience. From parking, a ticket exchange for people not attending the game, the student section process, concessions, in game environment, local community engagement, etc. There is a lot of opportunity to improve.
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In reply to Captn_Ag05 • 12:22p, 3/4/26
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I also hope they can come up with some outside the box ideas just to try for a couple of games and see how they work. These might be terrible ideas but let's just try some stuff.

Just off the top of my head:

One of the corner sections as like a former student general admission: Don't have anyone to come to the game with? Sit here. I think young professionals moving back to town or dads who are going to the game without their kids might be interested in this. People who want to talk ball with other folks but for whatever reason or another are coming to the game by themselves.

Young Rowdies: This would be for the winter break games and early conference games before students are back. Put all the students on one end and reserve the other end for families with kids. Have a special ticket deal, have the yell leaders teach them some chants, have some giveaways/games for them, have the team come shake hands with them afterwards, etc. Bringing your young kids to a game can be kind of a grind for the people around you but if you had a special section that was actively encouraging the kids to go nuts it would be fun. Sort of like the elementary school day, but ramped up.
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In reply to bobinator • 1:18p, 3/4/26
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I mean you can literally count the empty seats if you want. I think my entire section in the corner had like 25 people in it. I'm not going to argue with you about one game's exact attendance numbers, who cares, maybe you're right and those three sections had 85% but there were still probably somewhere between 500 and 1,000 Kentucky fans who bought tickets from our season ticket holders.

I'm just saying I was texting friends of mine earlier in the day that the crowd was going to be horrible. There were like seven threads on premium of people just giving away tickets to the game. It was entirely predictable that crowd wasn't going to be good last night.


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In reply to bobinator • 1:48p, 3/4/26
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bobinator said:
One of the corner sections as like a former student general admission:

I got in town right as the Mizzou game started a few weeks ago and thought about going over to watch, so this might have been an intriguing option for me rather than searching the secondary market for tickets. Interesting idea.

I'll second (or third) the student sentiment about exams, etc. this week. My kid is neck deep in assignments and tests right now. A lot getting crammed into the week before the break. He's probably like most students in that he's an average basketball fan so goes when he can. But it isn't on his radar every week. The gimmick marketing does sometimes work for students like him though. He went to consecutive women's games last year because you got a free jersey if you attended 2-3 in a row or some such.
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In reply to LandArchSA • 1:53p, 3/4/26
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I thought of it because I normally take my son (5) to games, but for like 8 pm games that are too late for him I usually go by myself. I'd definitely sit in a section that was like non-student GA for quite a few games. Could even do some bits like your first beer is free with the ticket or whatever.

Once again, could very well be a terrible idea that wouldn't work, but I'd at least like to see us try some stuff.
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In reply to David_Puddy • 2:21p, 3/4/26
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If the argument is whether the student attendance for UK could have been predicted, I at least implied that fear with this post in the tu game thread.

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Just brutal losing this game and Florida in front of our two biggest crowds


Could see that we missed an opportunity for building momentum with the students. Neither game was fun.
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2:35p, 3/4/26
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Yall need to realize we students have school to do on weekdays… and this is the week before spring break, one of the busiest weeks of school of the semester.

Lot of kids have multiple exams, projects and papers this week, and don't have time to go to a basketball game.
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In reply to David_Puddy • 3:27p, 3/4/26
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What in the world are you talking about. It seems you do not know college students very well.
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In reply to bobinator • 3:35p, 3/4/26
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bobinator said:
The official attendance last night was 8,062. Not a single section of that place was 85% full.

That is most likely tickets sold, not actual attendance, which means every season ticket holder is counted in the attendance whether they are there or not.
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In reply to TXAG 05 • 3:40p, 3/4/26
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The ETAM game's listed attendance was 4,495 so I don't think so.
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In reply to washedupballer • 6:51p, 3/4/26
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washedupballer said:
Personally have 3 separate exams and 3 separate papers due before Friday. I simply watched baseball + basketball while having a beer and studying. Y'all old heads forget students have more to do than just watch basketball games.

Calm down, Francis. Some of us went to most games, worked 30 hrs a week, partied a fair bit, and still went summa in engineering..

The difference is we had significantly less distraction. No cell phones, no internet, and like 3 channels to watch. And, the girls were a little more homely than they are now.

But kegs were $14. HAHA
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7:08p, 3/4/26
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I was at the Kentucky game last night and I wish more students showed up. With that said, Spring Break is next week and a bunch of profs were trying to put there test right before Spring Break.
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7:36p, 3/4/26
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Largest crowds of the season = we get blown out

Low turnout out against a "blue blood" = we do the blowing out


Seems like I see the approach we need to take
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