Illinois Model

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rshar
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Do we want to adapt, tall, athletic, Eastern European talent. Can score and play D?
jja79
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Yes
dixichkn
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Look at Arizona tonight. Their roster is basically a UN convention
Method Man
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The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.
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Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That will result in a lawsuit due to "limiting the earning potential" of the players
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Just set age limit… 23 and under
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All we need is one Wemby or one MJ.
I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
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well we woulda gone sub 500
Method Man
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NyAggie said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That will result in a lawsuit due to "limiting the earning potential" of the players


What about the earning potential of American players? America isn't obligated to help earning potential of foreign pros and trickle down effect is bad for Americans. Take it to its logical conclusion.
Method Man
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But as long as the rules allow it we should get three eastern block giants.
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It seems to be "the way"
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Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.
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Need to figure out which foreign players should be eligible vs not.
Method Man
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.
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Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.
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BigOil said:

Just set age limit… 23 and under



If some kid goes into the service and then comes out and plays--no.

But I understand you concept.
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.


Calm down, buddy. I don't think Method Man goose steps around his house or anything.
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.

No, my friend. Your response is WILD. You can't believe that a collegiate system of amateur athletes meant to enrich the lives of students in a specific place might be limited to citizens of that specific place? And to so limit it would be "hateful"?

We've completely lost the plot.

The purpose of intercollegiate athletics is not to help someone from Montenegro get a leg up on their professional tennis career.

I'm extremely liberal compared to a significant chunk of this website and you're crazy for this. But yeah, lets just jump straight to racism. If you believe in sensible limits on foreign athletes in NCAA sports, you're in favor of Jim Crow!
Method Man
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Hateful? How dumb.

Also, many of the guys I'm talking about are the same race.

Imagine any other country's citizens losing their minds at capping the number of foreign participants in their national sports associations. Insane response. Thanks for the laugh.
Method Man
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Perfectly stated.
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.

You are being over dramatic.

Other countries often limit how many foreigners can be on their pro teams. And these countries have nothing like the opportunity of college sports. USA is just too stupid to realize we are developing foreign talent without reciprocity.

Just for example, I live in Missouri. Zero players on the mens Missouri State soccer team are from usa. ZERO. Of 26. Dumb as hell.
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dixichkn said:

Look at Arizona tonight. Their roster is basically a UN convention

It's funny you say that because one of their best European players Ivan Kharchenkov actually came down to Arizona and Texas A&M as his final two schools in his recruitment last summer. Bucky and his staff almost had him in the Maroon and White and now he's a starter on a Final Four team. They'll be back in Europe this summer to try and find another kid overseas to bring to A&M, like they did with Ruben Dominguez. They see the value in European pros in their system, not afraid to adapt and have a couple on their roster.
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.
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The real issue is the lack of skill development in American bigs, especially with footwork and boxing out.
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LukeEvangelist said:

dixichkn said:

Look at Arizona tonight. Their roster is basically a UN convention

It's funny you say that because one of their best European players Ivan Kharchenkov actually came down to Arizona and Texas A&M as his final two schools in his recruitment last summer. Bucky and his staff almost had him in the Maroon and White and now he's a starter on a Final Four team. They'll be back in Europe this summer to try and find another kid overseas to bring to A&M, like they did with Ruben Dominguez. They see the value in European pros in their system, not afraid to adapt and have a couple on their roster.


Yep

It's within the rules so if you aren't doing it then you're missing out on another avenue to get good players that can help you win
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Yeah, i dont care where the players come from. There's no longer any illusion that college sports is anything other than semi pro ball…
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.


With all due respect- grow up, titty baby.
Method Man
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Ag_EE_88 said:

Yeah, i dont care where the players come from. There's no longer any illusion that college sports is anything other than semi pro ball…
and euro ball is full pro ball. Again, downstream effects is actual amateur players losing scholarships so pro players can come over and take spots. At some point, it should be capped. Not zero of course.

And, no, I don't care if our nearly our whole roster is euro. I don't like it how it's set up but I'm not dumb enough to not play within the rules set forth as is.
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.


Lolz
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TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

TjgtAg08 said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That would be insane and illegal.

But, maybe there could be limitations placed on former professionals. Maybe only 1 per roster and/or limit them to only 1-2 years of eligibility.


Why would it be insane? Legality can be changed. I've thought this for years since my kids play tennis and about 65% of female college tennis players are foreign born. How would it look if every college athlete in a conference was foreign born? Not that it would happen but that it could is ridiculous.


It would be insane because it would be extremely discriminatory, hateful and illegal. Why do you care about the number of foreign-born athletes in a given college sport? Are American-born athletes somehow more entitled to a spot on a college program than those born outside the US?

Thats just a WILD thing to say. If American college athletes don't like their spots being taken by foreign athletes, then freaking work harder and get better. As long as we aren't talking about professional vs non-professional, what your saying is just down right ignorant.

And "legality can change?" Jesus man. Sure, I guess it can. We can also change laws to limit athletes of a certain skin color or religious beliefs as well.


Sometimes this website gives me unexpected hope, and the roasting you're receiving for this garbage is a wonderful example.
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Tommy Lloyd was chief recruiter for Mark Few for years and developed pipelines to Europe, Scandinavia and Africa. He's doing the same at Arizona. I wonder if someone from his circle might be able to bring some connections.
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NyAggie said:

Method Man said:

The ncaa should limit the number of foreign players on every team. They won't of course.


That will result in a lawsuit due to "limiting the earning potential" of the players


Wrll if that were the case, no restrictions would work.

Illiterate? No problem, this college student cant be denied $.

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Doesn't Texas A&M limit the number of students we can have from out-of-state? Doesn't seem that far fetched to limit the number of student-athletes from out of the country.
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Why would we? It's barely a school team anymore.
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Not foreign-born, but who was the A&M basketball MVP?

Rashaun Agee, a forward for the Texas A&M Aggies during the 2025-26 season, is 25 years old. Born on November 2, 2000, he is a veteran college basketball player in his seventh season, having previously played for New Mexico State, Casper College, Bowling Green, and USC.

Curt Cignetti at Indiana only took two years to get it about older players.
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