Why Georgia Tech left the SEC (GT POV)

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http://indoddwetrust.blogspot.com/2006/07/requiem-for-conference-affiliation.html

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Kyle King had a small mention of GT in a recent post, the gist of which was "Tech considers UGA its sole main rival, rather than one of many." This is admittedly true, and got me thinking.

Although obviously one big rival is better than none (and not all teams have any), Georgia Tech used to have several heated rivalries, which have mostly died out. When/Why? Because in 1963 Georgia Tech left the Southeastern Conference, and because in 1978 the Institute affiliated with the Atlantic Coast Conference.

(And now I'll digress a moment to explain why Georgia Tech left the SEC, because most of the crap on the Internet about it is just that: crap. The highly condensed version is, Bobby Dodd removed us from the conference because (1) he thought we could be a success*** independent, like Notre Dame, and (2) because the SEC had imposed scholarship limitations. Most coaches didn't care about the scholly limits, but Dodd refused to remove injured or out-of-eligibility players from scholarship, as he insisted the boys continue their education (he never graduated from the University of Tennessee, and wanted to see his players graduate). A few years later Tech tried to rejoin the SEC but Bear Bryant was unwilling to convince the Bama president to vote in favor of Tech. After this rebuff, Tech joined the ACC.)

Within the SEC, Tech had any number of rivals. We hated Auburn, they hated us. We hated Bama, they hated us (we're even in their fight song). Tennessee. Georgia (obviously). Vandy and Florida were good series. And the schools further west (e.g. Ole Miss, LSU) hated us because we never wanted to play there. In fact, Tech has never played in Oxford, MS (but will for the first time in 2011. Grove 'gating, here I come!)

After leaving the Southeastern Conference, which Georgia Tech helped found, Tech kept up the series with many schools for a good while. As an independent, Tech could pick and choose a full season's worth of games, typically heavy with SEC teams.

After joining the ACC however, playing a full conference slate along with several SEC games each year was impossible, especially if Tech wanted to ever schedule a cupcake or a good cross-sectional matchup.

Therefore, our old rivalries had to die. Why haven't we developed any strong ACC rivals? There are several reasons, in my opinion.

History. Although Tech had played most ACC teams before joining the conference, there wasn't enough history. Familiarity breeds contempt, and the programs were simply unfamiliar.
Also, with most of Georgia Tech's old SEC rivals, there were cool stories about them; i.e. the Auburn students greasing the tracks in 1892 so that Tech's players had to walk back to town. With new opponents, there's just no cool old stuff.

Proximity. SEC schools were (and still are) much closer to Tech, on average, than ACC schools. The closer an away game, the more fans will go, the better the gameday atmosphere will be.
Attitude. The ACC was a basketball conference. Still is to an extent, and the fans of many ACC schools don't care much about football. Overall, the conference's fans lack the passion for the Great Southern Game which you see from SEC fans. Without fans getting rowdy, rivalries tend not to grow.
Quality of Football. Fans tend to hate their opponents more when they're successful; no one wants to piss on a perennial underdog. And the ACC has not seen nearly the historic success of the SEC. The only teams to have won a national championship while in the ACC are Maryland in 1953, Clemson in '81, Georgia Tech in '90, and Florida State in '93 and '99. I have no clue how many SEC members won titles, but I know it's damn high.

Even based on these criteria, you'd think that Clemson would be a big-time rival. Honestly, I don't know why it's not a bigger rival in the eyes of fans. Certainly playing the Tigers is always big for the team itself, and those ball games tend to run pretty close. I feel that if we or Clemson got on a hot streak (i.e. several years of ACC championship contention, with an actual championship or two in there), the series might blow up a bit in the eyes of fans. One problem is that Tiger fans put about as much effort into hating USC as Tech fans put into hating Georgia.

So, in conclusion, I think it's a shame we had to lose a bunch of good rivals. I'm not upset we're not in the SEC, but I would like to see our school develop some passion in its ACC rivalries so that football season can be all the more exciting.




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Kemo Sabe
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Moral of the story. Choose wisely! Don't be Ga Tech!
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Also, if you want to build rivalries, win early. Lose like Mizzou and Arky, and your new conference mates will be indifferent toward you.
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Screw loosing rivalries, GT flushed a dominant college football program down the toilet when they left the SEC.
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In their case, the grass looked greener on the other side of the fence and was not.

In our case, the grass looked greener on the other side of the fence and was not only greener but ass deep greener.
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The decision to leave the SEC was acted upon in 1963 -- almost fifty years ago. The landscape has changed alot between then and now, especially with the independent programs.
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GT needs to get a Big Ten invite, then leverage re-admission into the SEC.
Drink Juice, Shelby
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Interesting read.
St Hedwig Aggie
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And still they play their in state rival UGA!? Huh!
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Also, if you want to build rivalries, win early. Lose like Mizzou and Arky, and your new conference mates will be indifferent toward you.


Solid point. Arkansas came in and established a decent basketball rivalry with Kentucky immediately (which is nothing now due to the last decade and a half of mediocrity). But, they did nothing to stoke any flames in football outside of an SEC West title in either 94 or 95 only to get hammered by Florida in the champ game.
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They did better than Tulane after leaving the SEC
Drink Juice, Shelby
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So they "only" won one division title in their first three years?
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According to a friend of mine who played for Bobby Dodd, the 2nd reason mentioned above is true, but he makes no mention of the independence thing. Additionally, another reason they left the conference had to do with a spat between Dodd & Bryant over a dirty play during one game. Dodd was upset over the play and wanted an apology from Bryant which he never got. Dodd felt that the sportsmanship of the game was rapidly disappearing from the SEC with Bryant/Bama leading the charge. The relationship between Dodd and Byrant got very ugly (prior to that incident they were friends). It seems silly that Dodd would leave the conference over a dirty play but my friend believes it to be true.

[This message has been edited by ATL Aggie (edited 4/10/2013 10:01a).]
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