Coin Flip

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12th Man Ag
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How immediate is the coin flip for home / away for tomorrow?
aggietony2010
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It's not. We're away. Higher seed gets game 3. Coin flip is only when non-seeded teams (regional 2,3,4 seeds, and only if the seed is equal) meet up.
Onionman
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Being visitor is cool.

Visitors have won every game so far in this series.
TAMUallen
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I wish there was a coin flip!!!
12th Man Ag
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Thank you!

Trying to buy tickets. Anyone offer good interest rates?!?!
Muy
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Usually it's before overtime.
LB12Diamond
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About to be 7-0 as the visitors.
Gig ‘Em Baby!
hbkyle
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Up to this point it's always been determine by some arbitrary incomprehensible methodology, but now . . . IT GOES TO THE HIGHER SEED?!?!?
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hbkyle said:

Up to this point it's always been determine by some arbitrary incomprehensible methodology, but now . . . IT GOES TO THE HIGHER SEED?!?!?

Super regional was determined the same way.
Luke The Drifter
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I agree we should be the visiting team on Monday. Tennessee earned the #1 overall seed, so they deserve to be the home team.

However, what is really, really stupid is that we were the #3 overall national seed...yet we will end up being the visiting team in 7 of our 11 NCAA tourney games. That's ridiculous.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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For the love of Pete, no one is screwing the Aggies. We are the visitors, we should be the visitors, they earned the home team advantage by being the #1 seed.

This, oh woe is me, everyone hates the Aggies **** is getting old.

Just win the ****ing game.
20ag07
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However, what is really, really stupid is that we were the #3 overall national seed...yet we will end up being the visiting team in 7 of our 11 NCAA tourney games. That's ridiculous.
And if all of our series had played out to completion, how many times would we have been home?

7 out of 14.

Including the last at bats against every team until we ran into the higher seed in the CWS finals.

Those games just weren't needed because we kept winning.

People who can't do math keep ignoring this.
OKCAGS
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And have to watch the Tony V. show ? No thanks , we will be visitor.
OKCAGS
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Bravo.
Luke The Drifter
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20ag07 said:

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However, what is really, really stupid is that we were the #3 overall national seed...yet we will end up being the visiting team in 7 of our 11 NCAA tourney games. That's ridiculous.
And if all of our series had played out to completion, how many times would we have been home?

7 out of 14.

Including the last at bats against every team until we ran into the higher seed in the CWS finals.

Those games just weren't needed because we kept winning.

People who can't do math keep ignoring this.


In my perfect world, it should play out like this…

Regionals - the national seed should always be the home team, no matter what.

Super regionals - keep doing it like we are doing with no coin flip for game 3

CWS - in bracket play, the better seed is always the home team then keep doing what we're doing for the championship series (no coin flip)

These teams work hard to earn the national seeds. It's ridiculous that they have to play the visitors role to teams that barely qualify to make the tourney.
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
20ag07
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These teams work hard to earn the national seeds. It's ridiculous that they have to play the visitors role to teams that barely qualify to make the tourney.
And they get home field advantage through the Regionals and SuperRegionals, which is worth way more than batting last.

You're ignoring this major fact while being mad about who bats last.

(And all the math says that a national seed would bat last if every single series was extended.)
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20ag07 said:

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However, what is really, really stupid is that we were the #3 overall national seed...yet we will end up being the visiting team in 7 of our 11 NCAA tourney games. That's ridiculous.
And if all of our series had played out to completion, how many times would we have been home?

7 out of 14.

Including the last at bats against every team until we ran into the higher seed in the CWS finals.

Those games just weren't needed because we kept winning.

People who can't do math keep ignoring this.
The fact that the favored team would only be the home team half the time if it played out fully is ridiculous. If the top seed in the NBA plays a full 7 games ever series then by the end of it they have 4 more home games than road games.

If the top team wins all their games then it should be close to 50/50 each round but should never been less than half at home. Consider A&M's regional.

1 seed - 1 home game, 2 away games
2 seed - 2 home games, 2 away games
3 seed - 2 home games, 1 away game
4 seed - 1 home game, 1 away game

So the only team that gets a home field advantage is the whole regional is the #3 seed. You are rewarded with home field advantage when you weren't one of the top 30 teams in the country.

The only time it's even possible for the higher ranked team in any professional sport to play more road games than home is in a 2-3-2 series that finishes in exactly 5 games. Otherwise it's impossible. It should not be possible to be the #3 seed and play nearly twice as many road team games as home team games.
20ag07
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So the only team that gets a home field advantage is the whole regional is the #3 seed. You are rewarded with home field advantage when you weren't one of the top 30 teams in the country.
You just used the term "home field" twice.

No lower seed is awarded a "home field" advantage. That's given to the national seed.

The national seed gets to bat last, which is not the same thing as a "home field advantage", if their last series stretch out, all the way into the CWS.
tonytx05
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There is no coin flip for game three of the supers unless the teams were equally seeded.
AggieDub04
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20ag07 said:

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So the only team that gets a home field advantage is the whole regional is the #3 seed. You are rewarded with home field advantage when you weren't one of the top 30 teams in the country.
You just used the term "home field" twice.

No lower seed is awarded a "home field" advantage. That's given to the national seed.

The national seed gets to bat last, which is not the same thing as a "home field advantage", if their last series stretch out, all the way into the CWS.
Lets be really clear. It is stupid that the only team in a regional that has the advantage of batting as the home team more than half their games is the #3 seed who wasn't even in the top half of the field. It is stupid.
20ag07
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Lets be really clear. It is stupid that the only team in a regional that has the advantage of batting as the home team more than half their games is the #3 seed who wasn't even in the top half of the field. It is stupid
Let's be really clear.

The top seeds will bat last in at least half their games, including the final elimination game, if those series extend that all the way.

How could you be so obsessed with the number of times a 3 seed is home, when the real situation is that they had a harder path to get there?

No higher seed is being left out of an advantage if their series goes all the way, in which case they get the final advantage.

The fact that most of them don't need to, because the higher seed wins, is why you're upset about the number of times a lower seed batted last.
Luke The Drifter
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tonytx05 said:

There is no coin flip for game three of the supers unless the teams were equally seeded.

Correct - sorry if I wasn't clear. But even if the teams were equally seeded, the NCAA had to make a determination on which team was deserving to host. You would think (although you never know with the NCAA) the team they picked to be the host was the "better" of the equal seeds.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
twalker05
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As the away team, will we be back in the 1st base dugout tonight, like on Saturday? I assume so, but cannot find that information anywhere.
AggieDub04
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20ag07 said:

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Lets be really clear. It is stupid that the only team in a regional that has the advantage of batting as the home team more than half their games is the #3 seed who wasn't even in the top half of the field. It is stupid
Let's be really clear.

The top seeds will bat last in at least half their games, including the final elimination game, if those series extend that all the way. This should be no matter what. There is no legitimate argument against it. Hey top seed, if you do as bad as possible you'll bat last half the time. Stupid.

How could you be so obsessed with the number of times a 3 seed is home, when the real situation is that they had a harder path to get there? I'm not obsessed. I have an opinion that I've stated based on facts. How are you so obsessed with people who have legitimate logical arguments?

No higher seed is being left out of an advantage if their series goes all the way, in which case they get the final advantage. They should not be left out of an advantage regardless of the outcome. Nowhere else do we say "if the top team does as bad as possible, then and only then do they enjoy an advantage"

The fact that most of them don't need to, because the higher seed wins, is why you're upset about the number of times a lower seed batted last. No, see above. It's stupid.
I can't tell if you're serious or trolling so I'll simply leave my response at this.
tonytx05
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Seeding and hosting is normally but not always tied together. Teams have to submit bids to be a host site, and teams that weren't seeded first in their regional might not have even submitted a bid if they don't have the required facilities.
tonytx05
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twalker05 said:

As the away team, will we be back in the 1st base dugout tonight, like on Saturday? I assume so, but cannot find that information anywhere.
Yes
20ag07
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Hey sweetheart.

In professional baseball and basketball, the home field moves around.


In college baseball, different teams get last at bats, while the higher seeded team always gets home field advantage, and advantage in the last series.

Sorry you got your feelings hurt, though.
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