Poaching Head Coaches

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SIAP.

This question doesn't just apply to baseball only as the ******bag's departure has been discussed ad nauseum. But the real culprit is tu who can't stand to see A&M succeed. They blatantly interfered with our MCW championship run in my opinion.

I certainly don't have any historical data on head coach poaching by major rivals. Perhaps D.X. Bible to tu? Have these rivals ever poached each other's HC in big 3 sports?

Michigan-OSU
USC-UCLA
Bama-Auburn
Army-Navy
UF-FSU
tu-OU

etc..etc..

Will this be an acceptable practice moving forward or does it happen routinely?

This tu move really showed me how much they hate us as I have become used to them being insignificant since our SEC move.


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Bible spent 8 years at Nebraska in between his stints at A&M and t.u.
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Thank you, I didn't know.
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DX Bible went to Nebraska before tu.

Sorry twk beat me to it.
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It is one thing to entice a head coach to change jobs. That is a given that it is going to happen and sometimes to a rival. What bothered me about this was the in-your-face attempt to gut not only the coaching staff but the players in an attempt to make us totally irrelevant for the next several years. I realize with the changes to transfer rules, this will be happening more frequently. The jerks were just so smug about it.
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Unless they did something illegal or blatantly against written rules, it makes total and complete sense for t.u. to interfere with our success in whatever way they can.
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How about we just move on? There is no rule against going after another coach...you don't think A&M does the exact same? It happened, we have moved on as a program, and now so should the fans.
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CoAg1999 said:

How about we just move on? There is no rule against going after another coach...you don't think A&M does the exact same? It happened, we have moved on as a program, and now so should the fans.


What head coach did we poach from tu?
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It's not that they did it, it's how they did it. Simple.
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It was dirty AF and ramps up the hatred. I'm so pissed they're in our conference now. **** them and the horse they rode in on. And the rest of the conference too for bringing them in.
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I don't want university of Texas coaches as bad as I want their officials. They have some serious protectors in that review booth and on the field. I'll never forget Royals comments after Arkansas kicked their ass. He said, "I've talked to the officials and Texas will never be allowed to be embarrassed on national TV like that again." I've never forgotten that and now watch and I'll be hanged if they don't protect their brand in many sports multiple times a year. Just play the game and when you win you win. When you lose you lose.
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You have to choose which school you will be loyal to when taking on a HC job with rivalry such as A&M/tu.

You are with one or the other.

The only way you can go to the rival school is for you to be unsuccessful and/or fired.

For instance, we would not hire the unsuccessful/fired tu HC Pierce. Don't want. tu would not have hired Sloss had he not been successful. If you're successful….you have to stay where you're at or you're going to hear it.

Simple as that.
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AggieDruggist89 said:

CoAg1999 said:

How about we just move on? There is no rule against going after another coach...you don't think A&M does the exact same? It happened, we have moved on as a program, and now so should the fans.


What head coach did we poach from tu?


Emory Bellard was a tu assistant coach hired as head coach at A&M
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#Mke said:

Unless they did something illegal or blatantly against written rules, it makes total and complete sense for t.u. to interfere with our success in whatever way they can.
Disagree. They already have a bad enough reputation. They made themselves look like, rather showed themselves as the petty, pompous *******s they are for trying to torpedo their rival's program because they can't compete with us on the field.
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Auburn hired Tuberville from Ole Miss
Ole Miss hired Nutt from Arkansas
TCU hired Dykes from SMU
Texas hired McWilliams from Tech

I'm sure there are others, but those are the ones that immediately pop into my head. None of those were as egregious as the garbage CDC, Texas, and Jim did to sabotage our championship run.
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bslater07 said:

#Mke said:

Unless they did something illegal or blatantly against written rules, it makes total and complete sense for t.u. to interfere with our success in whatever way they can.
Disagree. They already have a bad enough reputation. They made themselves look like, rather showed themselves as the petty, pompous *******s they are for trying to torpedo their rival's program because they can't compete with us on the field.

This has always been tu. They have never shied away from off the field unethical behavior. Their root pompous attitude enables this.

Fortunately in this case, also blinded them to how ineffective it would be in the end - beyond the obvious distraction in the CWS finals.

It would seem they just gave us a jackass-ectomy.
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Aggie Joe 93 said:

bslater07 said:

#Mke said:

Unless they did something illegal or blatantly against written rules, it makes total and complete sense for t.u. to interfere with our success in whatever way they can.
Disagree. They already have a bad enough reputation. They made themselves look like, rather showed themselves as the petty, pompous *******s they are for trying to torpedo their rival's program because they can't compete with us on the field.

This has always been tu. They have never shied away from off the field unethical behavior. Their root pompous attitude enables this.

Fortunately in this case, also blinded them to how ineffective it would be in the end - beyond the obvious distraction in the CWS finals.

It would seem they just gave us a jackass-ectomy.
I agree completely. All we lost was a ****** of a coach. We got our guy, stole their best recruiter, retained our key players (Sorrell, come back!), and adding quality talent from the portal. We've done more than he's accomplished in Austin since he left which is antithetical to what the popular opinion was.
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It's an unwritten rule that you don't go to a blood rival like that. You can't blame the school, but you can blame the coach.
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I'm not big on government getting too involved, but it seems like the State of Texas should have some concern with the 2 largest Universities receiving funding from the State trying to damage each others revenue generating programs.
Not sure legislation is the answer, but tu seemed to intentionally try to damage A&M baseball program with their timing.
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This was more a perfect storm because
A) POS was a willing participant with tu always his end goal
B) Our season inflection and outcome in parallel to POS discussions
C) Timing of portal dates, draft as a pressure point
D) CDC's desire to destroy A&M bsbl

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Poaching of coaches is simply the name of the game now. That's not the issue (though it sucks).

Its how Texas and Schloss handled it. It felt malicious and felt like it was to inflict maximum damage. That's the difference.

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Tex117 said:

Poaching of coaches is simply the name of the game now. That's not the issue (though it sucks).

Its how Texas and Schloss handled it. It felt malicious and felt like it was to inflict maximum damage. That's the difference.




I think they attempted to. It failed and backfired.
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CoAg1999 said:

you don't think A&M does the exact same? It happened, we have moved on as a program, and now so should the fans.
Interfere with a rival's program by trying to poach the entire staff and key players, WHILE they are in a championship run?

Give an example of when we did the exact same thing.
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No idea, but taking another schools coach is not a new thing. This one just happened to be Texas taking him. If he would have went to Mississippi State, would you still be cursing and carrying on about him? It is getting old to be honest...move on. We are and will remain great!
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Who cares? How do you know we haven't reached out during a teams championship run? You act like everyone should be nice. It is a business...he had a relationship with the AD, the history is on the side of Texas as baseball is concerned. He got a 2 million dollar raise....who cares that they did in the middle of our run. We were one run away, nothing that JS could have done differently would have changed that. Basically, get over it!
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Gordo said:

It's not that they did it, it's how they did it. Simple.


Exactly

There are morals ans ethics and CDC has none of those characteristics.

And apparently most people around the nation agree.

A strategically, long term plan at ruining us and making themselves like us. With plenty of dishonesty and disgrace.

HC have always been poached. This was a historical way to go it. Something for a future 30:30
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Was it Bible or Homer Norton that we had to get rid of because the sips cried about how bad his teams beat them as they were threatening to quit playing us unless we got rid of him?
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While I agree with your point on most of that...money talks, relationships talk...I am not sure they went after JS just because he was at A&M. The fact is, this was their guy. They were going to take him from whoever had him at the time...it just happened to be A&M this time around.
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CoAg1999 said:

How about we just move on? There is no rule against going after another coach...you don't think A&M does the exact same? It happened, we have moved on as a program, and now so should the fans.


Did you just crawl out from underneath a rock rookie?
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You guys will be very satisfied as time goes by regarding texas. The conferences they dominated and ruined were literally nothing compared to the SEC. Neither the Big 12 nor the SWC were winning EVERY single Natty in baseball with multiple teams. They were not winning the vast majority of football Nattys and women's B-Ball Nattys. Texas will start to try their texas crap and quickly find out that doesn't work here.
Mark it down, they will lose at least 2 SEC football games this year, and likely, three. They won't like sucking hind tit, but they better get used to it.
Look no further than right now. If they had Schlossed a team in the Big 12 or SWC, their control of the media would have created a totally different narrative. I believe even del Conte is shocked at how out of control this media event has gotten.
Hook those horns down!
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How you do something is just as important as what you do.

Others believe the end justifies the means.

Your reputation/legacy will be determined by which principle you follow.

Fightin' Texas Aggies and tu hook'em hippies follow different principles when it comes to athletic competition.
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austinag1997 said:

Tex117 said:

Poaching of coaches is simply the name of the game now. That's not the issue (though it sucks).

Its how Texas and Schloss handled it. It felt malicious and felt like it was to inflict maximum damage. That's the difference.




I think they attempted to. It failed and backfired.
Guess we will find out. But as of a week later, the damage has certainly been minimized.

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OrangeAlert said:

You guys will be very satisfied as time goes by regarding texas. The conferences they dominated and ruined were literally nothing compared to the SEC. Neither the Big 12 nor the SWC were winning EVERY single Natty in baseball with multiple teams. They were not winning the vast majority of football Nattys and women's B-Ball Nattys. Texas will start to try their texas crap and quickly find out that doesn't work here.
Mark it down, they will lose at least 2 SEC football games this year, and likely, three. They won't like sucking hind tit, but they better get used to it.
Look no further than right now. If they had Schlossed a team in the Big 12 or SWC, their control of the media would have created a totally different narrative. I believe even del Conte is shocked at how out of control this media event has gotten.
Hook those horns down!
I think I have replied something similar to you before, but this is what the SEC doesn't understand... Everything you just said may come to pass. Lose even more than what you are suggesting.

And it still wont matter in terms of how Texas will start pulling the power of the conference West. Money and politics trumps on the field results.

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I am a rookie cause I got better things to do then b**tch and moan all week about a guy that obviously did not want to be here!
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I just don't see what they can do:
Get a bigger slice of the money? No chance.
Move the championship game to Dallas? Very doubtful as too much geographic push back.
Dominate in football? They could not even dominate the Big 12.
With the likely soon to be announced addition of Clemson and FSU, texas' power and control will wane even more. The power brokers in the Big 12 were terrified of texas. That is not the case here.
Most importantly, if Schloss and del Conte are indicative of how they conduct business, they are doomed. Snakes get sliced.


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