This will affect college baseball the most. 26 yr old seniors getting NIL

Monumental ruling for the world of JUCO

Life changing for JUCO athletes. pic.twitter.com/SzQ2KiPNeS

— JUCOadvocate - Brandon Goble (@JUCOadvocate) December 18, 2024

nothing makes sense because the NCAA has no legal leg to stand on with almost any action they take....that's why it's going to blow up in the next few years

I've always said the student part will be removed. They will be seen as employees and how many employees are forced to take classes to stay employed? It's going down the path to have athletes just playing for the schools.

This guy has a point

Just a horrific ruling for the NCAA that they will fight to the end. And they better win so this doesn’t become the law of the land.

Any HS player worth their salt can go Juco for 2 years and stay draft eligible. If Jucos develop, these kids will get popped after 1-2 years and…

— Matt Bomeisl (@RealMattyBo) December 19, 2024

Wouldn't the NIL difference between JUCO and big time college baseball be the enticing factor?

The last couple years it's been harder than ever for high school kid to get into college baseball due to all Covid eligibility years … that's now ending and now this for HS kids.
This ruling makes it much harder for kids coming out of high school to go play college baseball. You're basically getting six years of eligibility so now you will see a ton of kids that would be going. D1 just go straigh juco then go D1 after that.
This really eliminates a lot of opportunity for kids not good enough to go 4 year D1 out of HS that would be going to JUCO. Those spots will now be taken by kids that are good enough to go to a four-year D1. .. and the four year D1 are gonna be full of fifth and six year seniors

IMO I don't think this will have as big of an impact as people are posing. I believe the kids that are good enough to see playing time at a D1, will still go D1. The kids that are hypothetically going to steal roster spots at JUCOs were most likely headed to a JUCO already after getting cut by a D1 program after fall.

Not sure how much I support or oppose this ruling without seeing a couple years of the actual trends it creates, but I do believe the hypotheticals going around this week will be unrealistic in the long term.

Calm down.

Only applies to Pavia and I promise you the NCAA will keep battling because his position is stupid.

The idea he was denied NIL opportunity isn't because he lost eligibility to a juco season but because he wasn't good enough to be in a position to earn NIL money. He balled out in one game vs. Bama and hoping to cash in on that.

I agree that the better prospects aren't planning on playing 6 years of college baseball anyways, so you will still see them play D1 (especially with NIL as an extra incentive).

But, there are only x number of roster slots in all of college baseball. If some players are playing an extra 2 years, that takes spots from someone else.

Due to COVID, we increased the roster sizes due to having players hang around longer. Now, we are shrinking the roster sizes to slightly below their pre-COVID numbers. Adding two years of eligibility for a subset of players will take spots from others if this stands.

And allowing scholarships for all roster spots and can't restrict external nil. Likely paying at least $20 million in internal NIL especially to marketable football and men's basketball players.

Can't imagine why he would fight for another year…

nereus said:

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I agree that the better prospects aren't planning on playing 6 years of college baseball anyways, so you will still see them play D1 (especially with NIL as an extra incentive).

But, there are only x number of roster slots in all of college baseball. If some players are playing an extra 2 years, that takes spots from someone else.

Due to COVID, we increased the roster sizes due to having players hang around longer. Now, we are shrinking the roster sizes to slightly below their pre-COVID numbers. Adding two years of eligibility for a subset of players will take spots from others if this stands.

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But if the 5th/6th year guys are better than the fish, then we're really not seeing a decline of talent in D1 baseball.....we're just going to see the non-blue chip talent developed at the JUCO level and coming out of there rather than from HS - more guys the caliber of Ali, Nutty, Ashenbeck, etc. can transfer in and contribute more quickly. But yes, this will affect the high school recruits - as will the continued rise in NIL keeping mid-round draft picks on campus

dabo man said:

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So you spend two years working towards your four year degree while playing sports. You're then given four more years to pursue that Bachelors? In no way does this begin to make sense.

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It's the courts and legal system. Usually doesn't make sense.

2 years of JUCO, redshirt, & medical redshirt could result in 8 years of eligibility

TarponChaser said:

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Calm down.

Only applies to Pavia and I promise you the NCAA will keep battling because his position is stupid.

The idea he was denied NIL opportunity isn't because he lost eligibility to a juco season but because he wasn't good enough to be in a position to earn NIL money. He balled out in one game vs. Bama and hoping to cash in on that.

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NMSU won 2, 1 and 2 games the 3 years before he got there and in his 2nd year won 10. He won the national JUCO championship at NM Military Institute. He's got 6,500 yards and about 60 TDs. He's better than most given average at best talent around him.

jja79 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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Calm down.

Only applies to Pavia and I promise you the NCAA will keep battling because his position is stupid.

The idea he was denied NIL opportunity isn't because he lost eligibility to a juco season but because he wasn't good enough to be in a position to earn NIL money. He balled out in one game vs. Bama and hoping to cash in on that.

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NMSU won 2, 1 and 2 games the 3 years before he got there and in his 2nd year won 10. He won the national JUCO championship at NM Military Institute. He's got 6,500 yards and about 60 TDs. He's better than most given average at best talent around him.

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He's Trevor Knight with better PR.

He would have gotten NIL too.

jja79 said:

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He would have gotten NIL too.

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So? Doesn't mean they deserve extra eligibility.

I was replying to your post about him not being good enough for NIL, not eligibility.

jja79 said:

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I was replying to your post about him not being good enough for NIL, not eligibility.

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Part & parcel of the same.

His stats just don't bear out the claim he's some great QB.

🚨BREAKING NEWS🚨

The NCAA just ruled that all *CURRENT* junior college players get an extra year of eligibility. This only applies to players current enrolled in JUCO.

The situation is extremely fluid. Stay tuned for more details. pic.twitter.com/f5kHwRav2u

— Josh Rudd (@JRudd_Scout) December 23, 2024

This is a screw job to all other students that worked hard and went straight D1.

Do we really want a bunch of 25-26 yr olds clogging up college sports? How can 17-18, even 19 yr old kids compete.
Terrible ruling.

I've got a couple potential high D3 to low D1 basketball sons. One is a junior and have no idea which direction we are heading.
Juco, prep, D3,2,1? It's nearly impossible to manage.
Basketball recruiting is total insanity below the top 100 of so high school kids. Kids don't know where they are going til weeks before classes start. Gonna all become mercenaries soon which will ruin quality chemistry based basketball if it hasn't already.
In the DC, Va, Md area everyone reclasses, moves schools, hides in prep. That due to Covid kids not leaving college. Now this, just when signs were showing improvement.
What's mess.

I foresee that the next lawsuit will be filed by someone who is out of eligibility, but has no pro prospects. They will argue that the eligibility limits their ability to earn income.

We'll end up seeing some college players retiring from the game (not just talking baseball) after 16 years in college...and still not have a degree worth anything.