That is era of college sports we live in now. Earley is a quality baseball coach. Is he ready to take over a high power baseball program? So far the it is not looking good. On the other hand, POS had a rocky first month of his tenure at A&M then again there were almost no expectations either.Serious Lee said:
we extended jimbo to keep him from lsu and it cost us gravely, but it gets better...
now we let a bunch of 19-22 yr olds pick a hire for us so as not to lose them to tu.
Hiring Earley was a huge mistake
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Seems like if Luke the drifter agrees, the team is in a bad way.
It's truth. Some of y'all got some really funny misinformation you like to spread.
Yes, they lobbied for him. That's not the only factor that got him hired.
I would have loved to have seen this board in July if Trev had completely ignored them and refused to even interview Earley.
Yes, they lobbied for him. That's not the only factor that got him hired.
I would have loved to have seen this board in July if Trev had completely ignored them and refused to even interview Earley.
jkag89 said:
It was a calculated risk. IMO, anything less than a big time hire would have meant most of the talent that produced the hype would have gone elsewhere and I doubt we could have pulled that off in a timely enough manner in which we would not have lost much of it anyways.
This. Guys, unless we got Vitello (which supposedly we may have been close to pulling g off) or someone on that level, we were left in a really bad position by POS leaving the way he did that late. Again, to me the real issue was POS, and my only question is could we have known or vetted him out a little more to see what the potential was for him to leave us. Maybe there was no way to know, but it seems that we may have had some intel to know his relationship with CDC and the possibility of him following CDC somewhere like tu. But I don't think CDC was at tu when we hired Schloss. Could be wrong. Still, we are A&M and pretty much the top of the baseball food chain in terms of a threat of having our coach poached from us, so the odds seemed slim. Still, we could have had Vitello instead of Schloss. Now that seems like it might have been the better call.
Regardless, I'm supporting Earley and I do think he can get this team to Omaha. At worst we will be a top 10 team next week, can get right and learn and get better. Again, getting to Omaha is still realistically on the table.
trouble said:Serious Lee said:
we extended jimbo to keep him from lsu and it cost us gravely, but it gets better...
now we let a bunch of 19-22 yr olds pick a hire for us so as not to lose them to tu.
No, we didn't let them pick the coach. They got him the interview.
I can assure you the players picked the coach. 100% the players leveraged their position to get Earley hired. Albers opted to take the easy way out a it was a calculated risk. But I can state for a fact the players picked the coach.
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
trouble said:Serious Lee said:
we extended jimbo to keep him from lsu and it cost us gravely, but it gets better...
now we let a bunch of 19-22 yr olds pick a hire for us so as not to lose them to tu.
No, we didn't let them pick the coach. They got him the interview.
Earley was hand picked by the current players… make no mistake about it.
That Frisco tounament in 2022 was in fact terrible with little to no signs of life, spirit or talent. At least tonight, Prager threw a gem, Henesler looked great at the plate and Kent and a few others occasionally did something good. Tomorrow, though, we should see some line-up changes and maybe even move LaViolette down to the 5th or 6th spot with Schott hitting right after him and with Kiel leading off, Kent second, and Hensler third in the order. Don't know who we should put in the 4 and 5 holes but about any one would probably do (and do better than the original holders of these spots).
And I can tell you we came thisclose to hiring Vitello
Last time we lost 3 in a row was when we were swept by Miss State (May 18, 2023). In Starkville.
the Ags have already lost 2 games entering the 9th inning with the leadCapitol Ag said:
Not sure about that. Sitting there in Frisco, a lot of us truly thought it would be a rebuild.
Now it's interesting that that same team never was more than shaky in the pen. We sort of mashed our way to Omaha.
The bullpen is what scares me the most. The bats will turn around. Luckily this team won't be #1 Monday, even if they win out this weekend, so that albatross will be gone. That can maybe start this team playing looser and not trying to live up to the hype. Also, THOS team isn't the one that was ranked #1. With Gavin out for the season, Sorrell and Stewart out indefinitely, this is very much a different team now.
that is really bad
Strike One said:
That Frisco tounament in 2022 was in fact terrible with little to no signs of life, spirit or talent. At least tonight, Prager threw a gem, Henesler looked great at the plate and Kent and a few others occasionally did something good. Tomorrow, though, we should see some line-up changes and maybe even move LaViolette down to the 5th or 6th spot with Schott hitting right after him and with Kiel leading off, Kent second, and Hensler third in the order. Don't know who we should put in the 4 and 5 holes but about any one would probably do (and do better than the original holders of these spots).
Love the dude immensely, but Schott needs to fall out of the lineup completely. I don't know who else can DH, but it would be nearly impossible for anyone else to do worse.
Agree Jace needs to slide down to 6th until he gets his head straight v
But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
Makes you wonder what the leaders at A&M are doing. We need a clean slate. Obviously these generals with no experience running a university are not working out and are not able to elevate A&M academically or athletically. They appear to make poor hires and decisions. A&M is not military branch nor a political branch. It's a results oriented group in which you need to achieve.
Need either business people or professional academic administrators to come on and then make the hires based on their backgrounds and ability to elevate A&M to secure our investments.
It's always the same story: spend a ton of money, get new facilities but most of the time they make poor hires / decisions (sometimes they nickel and dime people at the end for key roles) at the most critical aspects so you end up underachieving annually.
Need to take the Warren Buffet approach - fire all the bad leaders and hire goods and things will turn around. Got to start at the top.
Need either business people or professional academic administrators to come on and then make the hires based on their backgrounds and ability to elevate A&M to secure our investments.
It's always the same story: spend a ton of money, get new facilities but most of the time they make poor hires / decisions (sometimes they nickel and dime people at the end for key roles) at the most critical aspects so you end up underachieving annually.
Need to take the Warren Buffet approach - fire all the bad leaders and hire goods and things will turn around. Got to start at the top.
trouble said:
It's truth. Some of y'all got some really funny misinformation you like to spread.
Yes, they lobbied for him. That's not the only factor that got him hired.
I would have loved to have seen this board in July if Trev had completely ignored them and refused to even interview Earley.
100%! People would have lost their ***** Probably the OP with them.
Luke The Drifter said:trouble said:Serious Lee said:
we extended jimbo to keep him from lsu and it cost us gravely, but it gets better...
now we let a bunch of 19-22 yr olds pick a hire for us so as not to lose them to tu.
No, we didn't let them pick the coach. They got him the interview.
I can assure you the players picked the coach. 100% the players leveraged their position to get Earley hired. Albers opted to take the easy way out a it was a calculated risk. But I can state for a fact the players picked the coach.
Aggie Michael said:
Makes you wonder what the leaders at A&M are doing. We need a clean slate. Obviously these generals with no experience running a university are not working out and are not able to elevate A&M academically or athletically. They appear to make poor hires and decisions. A&M is not military branch nor a political branch. It's a results oriented group in which you need to achieve.
Need either business people or professional academic administrators to come on and then make the hires based on their backgrounds and ability to elevate A&M to secure our investments.
It's always the same story: spend a ton of money, get new facilities but most of the time they make poor hires / decisions (sometimes they nickel and dime people at the end for key roles) at the most critical aspects so you end up underachieving annually.
Need to take the Warren Buffet approach - fire all the bad leaders and hire goods and things will turn around. Got to start at the top.
Yet Albert's literally got us a massive media rights deal, the largest ever in college sports history. Yet, our leadership is the problem…
trouble said:
And I can tell you we came thisclose to hiring Vitello
We were very close to pulling Tony away from TN. However, he had to really think hard about A&M's offer because it was more than just about a contract and money. In the end, he used the interest from the Aggies to leverage a bigger contract from TN.
And Luke is dead on about the players selecting the coach.
Strike One said:
That Frisco tounament in 2022 was in fact terrible with little to no signs of life, spirit or talent. At least tonight, Prager threw a gem, Henesler looked great at the plate and Kent and a few others occasionally did something good. Tomorrow, though, we should see some line-up changes and maybe even move LaViolette down to the 5th or 6th spot with Schott hitting right after him and with Kiel leading off, Kent second, and Hensler third in the order. Don't know who we should put in the 4 and 5 holes but about any one would probably do (and do better than the original holders of these spots).
I'd sit Schott and Kash at a minimum. They both look completely lost at the plate, especially Schott.
Resources have never been our problem.
Given how things ended last year, I understand going with Earley if we couldn't get a big name. However, we need to be assembling names throughout this year and be prepared to make a move if he can't right the ship in a hurry.
Given how things ended last year, I understand going with Earley if we couldn't get a big name. However, we need to be assembling names throughout this year and be prepared to make a move if he can't right the ship in a hurry.
Capitol Ag said:Aggie Michael said:
Makes you wonder what the leaders at A&M are doing. We need a clean slate. Obviously these generals with no experience running a university are not working out and are not able to elevate A&M academically or athletically. They appear to make poor hires and decisions. A&M is not military branch nor a political branch. It's a results oriented group in which you need to achieve.
Need either business people or professional academic administrators to come on and then make the hires based on their backgrounds and ability to elevate A&M to secure our investments.
It's always the same story: spend a ton of money, get new facilities but most of the time they make poor hires / decisions (sometimes they nickel and dime people at the end for key roles) at the most critical aspects so you end up underachieving annually.
Need to take the Warren Buffet approach - fire all the bad leaders and hire goods and things will turn around. Got to start at the top.
Yet Albert's literally got us a massive media rights deal, the largest ever in college sports history. Yet, our leadership is the problem…
I mean it's a 15 year deal. There's an issue with that
My observation as well. We don't have Aschenbeck-type closer anymore. Someone needs to step up.W said:the Ags have already lost 2 games entering the 9th inning with the leadCapitol Ag said:
Not sure about that. Sitting there in Frisco, a lot of us truly thought it would be a rebuild.
Now it's interesting that that same team never was more than shaky in the pen. We sort of mashed our way to Omaha.
The bullpen is what scares me the most. The bats will turn around. Luckily this team won't be #1 Monday, even if they win out this weekend, so that albatross will be gone. That can maybe start this team playing looser and not trying to live up to the hype. Also, THOS team isn't the one that was ranked #1. With Gavin out for the season, Sorrell and Stewart out indefinitely, this is very much a different team now.
that is really bad
TxAg76 said:trouble said:
They practice.
Good Lord some of y'all are ridiculous
Every team in the country practices
Not every team in the country practices on the right things or with the right mindset. And for a lot of those teams it shows on the field. But, yes, every team in the country including ours practices.
W said:the Ags have already lost 2 games entering the 9th inning with the leadCapitol Ag said:
Not sure about that. Sitting there in Frisco, a lot of us truly thought it would be a rebuild.
Now it's interesting that that same team never was more than shaky in the pen. We sort of mashed our way to Omaha.
The bullpen is what scares me the most. The bats will turn around. Luckily this team won't be #1 Monday, even if they win out this weekend, so that albatross will be gone. That can maybe start this team playing looser and not trying to live up to the hype. Also, THOS team isn't the one that was ranked #1. With Gavin out for the season, Sorrell and Stewart out indefinitely, this is very much a different team now.
that is really bad
Can't put that totally on the bullpen though, as the defense sh*t the bed in the ninth in both games.
I still think hiring Earley was the right call regardless of how this season plays out. With this roster coming back you roll the dice on him.
If we had hired someone like Skip Johnson and Jace, Gavin, and Sorrell were playing for Tennessee, LSU, Texas, etc there would be absolutely no enthusiasm for the program at all even if he's a good coach.
You don't throw away generational talent when you have it.
Earley also does not have a big contract commitment so if it really goes off the rails it will not be expensive to start over and be back to where we would've been in July had we hired someone else.
If we had hired someone like Skip Johnson and Jace, Gavin, and Sorrell were playing for Tennessee, LSU, Texas, etc there would be absolutely no enthusiasm for the program at all even if he's a good coach.
You don't throw away generational talent when you have it.
Earley also does not have a big contract commitment so if it really goes off the rails it will not be expensive to start over and be back to where we would've been in July had we hired someone else.
Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.
This. After the Frisco Tourney I had serious doubts we would even make the SEC Tournament much less get a NCAA invite. If you told me we would make it to Omaha, I would have thought you would have lost your marbles. As much as I hate him, that was a remarkable turn around by POS. Also keep in mind the Earley was also part of the staff that produced that turn around. Somehow we pieced together enough pitching to give us a shot at winning 2 of 3 every weekend but lets not fool ourselves, it was mostly the bats that created that remarkable season.Capitol Ag said:Luke The Drifter said:Capitol Ag said:Luke The Drifter said:Tadpole said:
Get real. Way too early to.make that call.
Is it? When was the last time an A&M team played this poorly?
2022. A CWS final 4 team.
I disagree. 2022 started out rough, but there were at least signs of life. This team looks like a bunch of dead fish out there.
Not sure about that. Sitting there in Frisco, a lot of us truly thought it would be a rebuild.
Now it's interesting that that same team never was more than shaky in the pen. We sort of mashed our way to Omaha.
The bullpen is what scares me the most. The bats will turn around. Luckily this team won't be #1 Monday, even if they win out this weekend, so that albatross will be gone. That can maybe start this team playing looser and not trying to live up to the hype. Also, THOS team isn't the one that was ranked #1. With Gavin out for the season, Sorrell and Stewart out indefinitely, this is very much a different team now.
The strategy was to keep the team together. That was largely executed very well with interesting additional players.
Are the wheels coming off? Not exactly. But we have some things that need work or they might.
Protecting the #1 ranking depends on more things than Earley can control. And arguably is an unhelpful expectation.
Are the wheels coming off? Not exactly. But we have some things that need work or they might.
Protecting the #1 ranking depends on more things than Earley can control. And arguably is an unhelpful expectation.
texas knew what they were doing.
This funk is not all Earley's fault. Tony LaRusa would have his hands full with the bad juju we're battling.
I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
This funk is not all Earley's fault. Tony LaRusa would have his hands full with the bad juju we're battling.
I am part of the problem and you're the victim...
Not really. There's not a cap on the deal; the numbers in the release are the minimum we are guaranteed. If we / they are successful we both make more.TAMUallen said:Capitol Ag said:Aggie Michael said:
Makes you wonder what the leaders at A&M are doing. We need a clean slate. Obviously these generals with no experience running a university are not working out and are not able to elevate A&M academically or athletically. They appear to make poor hires and decisions. A&M is not military branch nor a political branch. It's a results oriented group in which you need to achieve.
Need either business people or professional academic administrators to come on and then make the hires based on their backgrounds and ability to elevate A&M to secure our investments.
It's always the same story: spend a ton of money, get new facilities but most of the time they make poor hires / decisions (sometimes they nickel and dime people at the end for key roles) at the most critical aspects so you end up underachieving annually.
Need to take the Warren Buffet approach - fire all the bad leaders and hire goods and things will turn around. Got to start at the top.
Yet Albert's literally got us a massive media rights deal, the largest ever in college sports history. Yet, our leadership is the problem…
I mean it's a 15 year deal. There's an issue with that
that arrogant MFer would have just found some other reason to hold us hostage, then bolt. he never wanted to be hereHubert J. Farnsworth said:
Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.
Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.
It was never about this.
OA_02 said:
Resources have never been our problem.
Given how things ended last year, I understand going with Earley if we couldn't get a big name. However, we need to be assembling names throughout this year and be prepared to make a move if he can't right the ship in a hurry.
I hope Early rights the ship and I think he will based on nothing. But, there is nothing wrong with starting the list now. After this year, if Early doesn't pan out with this much talent, he may not ever be able to out recruit the rest of the SEC purely because of his lack of a track record. If he is successful this year, he can ride that in recruiting for a minimum of 3 years and then have a modicum of a track record.
Yes. they are.greg.w.h said:
Are the wheels coming off?
trouble said:Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.
It was never about this.
Keep telling yourself that.
trouble said:Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
Aggies will be lamenting not giving Schloss a stadium renovation, that he was promised, for years to come.
It was never about this.
We will never know if that is actually the case or not because he didn't get the stadium. But, I'm glad he's gone because this school and team deserves a coach who wants to be hear and doesn't have a wondering eye while they are here.
A&M needs a closer who can strike guys out
a closer that gives up a lot of contact is going to be problematic with this defense
a closer that gives up a lot of contact is going to be problematic with this defense