Earley vs Rob Vaughn Comparisons

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GymBroFisher
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Rob Vaughn - Assistant at Maryland for 4 years
Rob Vaughn first season as Maryland HC: 24-30 overall; 9-14 in conference (easier conference)
Rob Vaughn second season at Maryland as HC: 29-29 overall; 12-12 in conference (easier conference)
also, I'm imagining Rob Vaughn didn't have to hire his assistants in a horrible window timing well into the summer.

You could make an argument that if Earley gets to 6-7 SEC wins in some ways it's comparable to Vaughns first season.
I know all the talent yada yada, but we've already seen how Sorrell has injected life into the lineup. So we know the injuries have had an affect.

I don't know how smart Earley is as a coach, I think there's clearly been some holes in his coaching so far. But the expectation for a first year HC in the SEC should have been much more realistic.

I think there's a real argument for a second year just to see if there's significant improvement overall if Earley can get some kind of momentum towards the end of the year and show improvement as a coach.

I'm just wondering if he really understands where he needs to improve and has a plan on how to improve.

For example, I don't think he's been a great emotional anchor for the team. He says, "we're devastated" after losses. I think that's bad. Say "we're frustrated but optimistic and we know we have to improve and we believe we will and we have a plan for how to get better at [example]" Coaches need to keep things emotionally neutral-ish but slightly on the optimistic upbeat side. "It's a blessing to coach and to play a game at the level and we're happy to be here." A positive mindset is so important for a team.
Fan crap just comes with the territory.

Then there's been other stuff that's more technical/strategic that I think he needs to clean up.

I just don't know that you fire Earley if he can show improvement unless you have a homerun coach ready to join.

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He was hired to retain the roster to win immediately. Only reason he got the job. We aren't Maryland we shouldn't have a clueless coach figuring it out and failing with this much talent. He got a shot and he blew it.
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Killzone3abc said:

He was hired to retain the roster to win immediately. Only reason he got the job. We aren't Maryland we shouldn't have a clueless coach figuring it out and failing with this much talent
I wouldn't call him clueless, I think he's just a first year head coach.

Whether he has the humility and motivation to talk to the right people and go through the right processes to get better is the question.
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Killzone3abc said:

He was hired to retain the roster to win immediately. Only reason he got the job. We aren't Maryland we shouldn't have a clueless coach figuring it out and failing with this much talent


This is what keeps getting overlooked when comparing Earley's first year to other coach's first years….it is very rare to inherit this much talent in your first year at program
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GymBroFisher said:

Killzone3abc said:

He was hired to retain the roster to win immediately. Only reason he got the job. We aren't Maryland we shouldn't have a clueless coach figuring it out and failing with this much talent
I wouldn't call him clueless, I think he's just a first year head coach.
first year head coach with a championship roster.
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How do you make that comparison with the ballclub we had returning vs Maryland?
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BraxtonW said:

GymBroFisher said:

Killzone3abc said:

He was hired to retain the roster to win immediately. Only reason he got the job. We aren't Maryland we shouldn't have a clueless coach figuring it out and failing with this much talent
I wouldn't call him clueless, I think he's just a first year head coach.
first year head coach with a championship roster.
Some people have stated that while it seemed we have a championship roster it isnt anywhere near the same roster and lineup as last year with the injuries
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We're gonna have earley for 3 years

Cheap head coach & no reason to fire him bc Aggies turn out wether we win or suck

No return on investment required in Aggieland


This Vaughn talk is a fun distraction though
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That's not at all what Luicci said today
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Wicked Good Ag said:

BraxtonW said:

GymBroFisher said:

Killzone3abc said:

He was hired to retain the roster to win immediately. Only reason he got the job. We aren't Maryland we shouldn't have a clueless coach figuring it out and failing with this much talent
I wouldn't call him clueless, I think he's just a first year head coach.
first year head coach with a championship roster.
Some people have stated that while it seemed we have a championship roster it isnt anywhere near the same roster and lineup as last year with the injuries
I agree to a point. With the roster we have now we should have at max two sec losses
Killzone3abc
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Even with injuries the roster is much better than 12-13.
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What Vaughn did at Maryland was stellar. Maryland was one of the worst baseball schools in the history of baseball. They hadn't been to the playoffs in 43 years prior to Coach Vaughn. They had 3 playoffs prior to Vaughn 1965, 1970, & 1971. Vaughn was Big 10 coach of the year twice. Twice won the Big 10 Regular Season championship & won the big 10 tournament championship(first time in school history). Went to the playoffs 3 straight years.
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If Earley is here next year olsen will be largely empty
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KlinkerAg11 said:

That's not at all what Luicci said today

What did he say?
GymBroFisher
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yes, but Vaughn didn't do it year 1. He had a worse roster but an easier conference to start with. The SEC is the hardest conference by far to coach and compete in. There's probably 5 teams every year that could win it all.
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Killzone3abc said:

KlinkerAg11 said:

That's not at all what Luicci said today

What did he say?
That if we end up with only 6-8 wins in the SEC we are likely looking for a new Baseball HC.
Killzone3abc
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Who cares dude? We aren't Maryland. They are a historically crap baseball program and werent remotely good when he took them over. We can't wait 3 years for Earley to know what he's doing enough to not be a bottom 2 SEC squad with the most talented roster he will ever have here.
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His first season at Bama in the SEC Vaughn had to replace a fired coach over a gambling scandal plus deal with the transfer portal. He went 33-24 for 4th place in the SEC West, got to the FSU Regional, had series wins over Tennessee & Arkansas. I'd say that was a pretty good first year with the challenges he had to handle year 1.
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I'm really wondering where these "6-8" SEC wins are going to come from. Easy part of the schedule is behind us and we won 1.
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Killzone3abc said:

If Earley is here next year olsen will be largely empty
no it wont
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That's like comparing a football coach who takes over at Vanderbilt vs a coach who takes over at Georgia
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That was Luiccis point, basically we have set ourselves up to only get 4-8 sec wins and that's much worse than he imagined.

If that happens he said he will be let go.
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85AustinAg said:

Killzone3abc said:

KlinkerAg11 said:

That's not at all what Luicci said today

What did he say?
That if we end up with only 6-8 wins in the SEC we are likely looking for a new Baseball HC.
I, like a few others here, have resigned myself to the idea that Earley will more than likely be the HC for at least one more year. The notion that we'll be looking for a new HC keeps the eyeballs coming to this site and looking in A&M's direction. But our AD appears, up to this point, someone who only looks at dollar signs and at reducing the department's expenditures.
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Too many fair weather fans on here
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Killzone3abc said:

If Earley is here next year olsen will be largely empty


Everyone who says this…doesn't have season tickets.

85AustinAg
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GarryowenAg said:

85AustinAg said:

Killzone3abc said:

KlinkerAg11 said:

That's not at all what Luicci said today

What did he say?
That if we end up with only 6-8 wins in the SEC we are likely looking for a new Baseball HC.
I, like a few others here, have resigned myself to the idea that Earley will more than likely be the HC for at least one more year. The notion that we'll be looking for a new HC keeps the eyeballs coming to this site and looking in A&M's direction. But our AD appears, up to this point, someone who only looks at dollar signs and at reducing the department's expenditures.
Baseball is important to A&M. Probably more so than basketball because of our relative success. We got money from the sips when Schloss left and we won't be out of pocket much if Earley continues with his struggles and he's let go. I can absolutely see A&M making a move after 1 year. This whole the AD doesn't care or won't spend the money on a new coach is bull***** Yea he's pitching pennies, preparing for the change in NIL but we have money for a better baseball coach and the AD knows its important to us.
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BaseballAggie13 said:

Too many fair weather fans on here
Correction - a lot of fans that want to win and are frustrated at hell that with all of this talent we aren't winning.
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KlinkerAg11 said:

That was Luiccis point, basically we have set ourselves up to only get 4-8 sec wins and that's much worse than he imagined.

If that happens he said he will be let go.



I guess we'll see who was right at the end of the season
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Yes it will
Killzone3abc
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Season ticket holders aren't giving up their tickets obviously, but I highly doubt they'll be anywhere near motivated enough to attend as many games as usual. The students will stop coming.
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Killzone3abc said:

Season ticket holders aren't giving up their tickets obviously, but I highly doubt they'll be anywhere near motivated enough to attend as many games as usual. The students will stop coming.


So you are guessing, without season tickets.
Wicked Good Ag
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Killzone3abc said:

Yes it will
if you think one poor season will make Blue Bell a wasteland then I dont know what to say other than dont bother with renovations since any bad season will make the cost outweigh the benefits


and that is sacrasm
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You said largely empty. We might have a different definition of largely empty but I do not believe this to be true. Will we see the mostly full Olsen when playing Middle of Nowhere State in midweek games or SRO in SEC games like we saw all of last season and early on this year? Of course not but baseball fans while they love winning also enjoy watching rhythm of the game on a nice spring day. Even in RCs last year with most realizing it was going to be a meh season at best, we still saw decent crowds all season. Whatever route we go (and I fully expect someone else in the Aggie dugout next season at this point) unless it is a slam dunk hirer it will be tough to quickly recapture the fan momentum built up in POS's three seasons.
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ldr said:

Killzone3abc said:

Season ticket holders aren't giving up their tickets obviously, but I highly doubt they'll be anywhere near motivated enough to attend as many games as usual. The students will stop coming.


So you are guessing, without season tickets.
I'm still going - season ticket holder here
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It was a gamble and backfired. Can't blame anyone, but at this point he's been a complete failure. Sticking with him is big failure on AD.
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