Aggies2009 said:

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htxag09 said:

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First, I don't think it influences the game as much as most here but am still for some kind of automated strike zone.

Second, if we're being honest, it won't stop the *****ing here. Many posters truly believe there are orders for Texas, Alabama, whoever to get an edge. We just think that line of thinking is going to stop with an automated zone?

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1. It absolutely does. Have you ever seen the umpire scorecards and how much just a few calls can lead to multiple runs worth of an effect on a game? Also, MLBers have stated that it can take multiple games for them to recover from a bad umpire/strike zone because they have to make big adjustments to their swing and what pitches they hunt. It absolutely has a big effect when umpires are bad.

2. No, we're not "being honest" when we say that. You're proposing a hypothetical situation and passing it off as fact.

You're comparing apples to oranges. With an automated strike zone, assuming it works as advertised, it is an objective, consistent call whether a pitch is a strike or not. There won't be any human making a judgment call which introduces a lot of error. For instance, we've seen reviews that show a frame where a runner's foot is on a base before the ball enters the glove but the human replay official makes the wrong call and calls the runner out. You won't have that. You won't have the BS targeting calls that aren't upheld consistently from team to team.

On another note, remember how there was an account showing the umpire scorecard from the NCAA and it was SO BAD that they had to shut it down within like a day? That's a problem. Instead of fixing their glaring problem, they tried to hide it and sweet it under the rug.

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htxag09 said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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htxag09 said:

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First, I don't think it influences the game as much as most here but am still for some kind of automated strike zone.

Second, if we're being honest, it won't stop the *****ing here. Many posters truly believe there are orders for Texas, Alabama, whoever to get an edge. We just think that line of thinking is going to stop with an automated zone?

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1. It absolutely does. Have you ever seen the umpire scorecards and how much just a few calls can lead to multiple runs worth of an effect on a game? Also, MLBers have stated that it can take multiple games for them to recover from a bad umpire/strike zone because they have to make big adjustments to their swing and what pitches they hunt. It absolutely has a big effect when umpires are bad.

2. No, we're not "being honest" when we say that. You're proposing a hypothetical situation and passing it off as fact.

You're comparing apples to oranges. With an automated strike zone, assuming it works as advertised, it is an objective, consistent call whether a pitch is a strike or not. There won't be any human making a judgment call which introduces a lot of error. For instance, we've seen reviews that show a frame where a runner's foot is on a base before the ball enters the glove but the human replay official makes the wrong call and calls the runner out. You won't have that. You won't have the BS targeting calls that aren't upheld consistently from team to team.

On another note, remember how there was an account showing the umpire scorecard from the NCAA and it was SO BAD that they had to shut it down within like a day? That's a problem. Instead of fixing their glaring problem, they tried to hide it and sweet it under the rug.

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First, I said I'm for some kind of automated strike zone. For no other reason than we have the technology and there is no reason not to. Well MLB has the technology, less sure about all college stadiums.

But, yes, I'm familiar with the umpire scorecards but the math behind the run impact is questionable at best. I mean based on their methodology if a hitter had a ball called a strike in a 0-0 count it would have a negative impact on that teams run total even if the next pitch was a HR. When in reality, it's part of baseball and you have 3 strikes for a reason..... That's my point on it doesn't influence the game as most here think.

And to your bolded above, at the end of the day people will have their biased opinions. I mean look at the last strike called of Sunday's game. I look at that pitch and don't think it was a bad call, especially with the ****ty camera angles we have in college baseball. Other people look at the exact same angle and say it was in the other batter's box. There's no question in my mind people will throw out the regular comments of "SEC/Birmingham is screwing us again" with an automated zone. Not saying it should stop it from happening, just saying it won't stop the endless *****ing about umpires.

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AgEng06 said:

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Andrew has mentioned this several times on air, but I don't know the reasoning behind it... why does the SEC apparently have a different set of Trackman data than the commentators in the booth or on location are getting? Why can't that data be standardized and provided to everyone?

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