Kash v Gasparino

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I have you in mind with most every post. The term applies, don't you think?
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Players will sometimes get "snippy" with each other. I understand that. Sport, at that level, is a highly emotional activity.

Having watched the clip, I think the real fault lies with the 1B umpire. He could have, should have, immediately ejected the tu runner. He didn't. And, because, he didn't, he impliedly approved of that activity. As a result, that kind of activity is allowed to go "unchecked".

My opinion only.
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What a butt head. If Kash got tossed, that guy needed to get tossed as well.
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twk said:

Back in the old days, players could settle this on the field, but if anything happens today, you can bet we'll get the worst of it for the umpires. There are some people who are so eaten up with rage at the sips that they don't care about the ramifications of starting something today, but we are trying to salvage our season and will need everyone available for LSU next week. If we were to bean Gasparino, knowing Schloss, they'd send a bunch of bench warmers out to scrap, and our position players in the field would join and get suspended. They could afford some suspensions. We can't. It sucks, but there is no way around it.


Especially considering they punished Kash yesterday and nobody from the Longhorn side, we know who will get the worst of it from the umpires if anything happens today.
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And Van Raaphorst LOVES ejecting people. He has paper thin skin
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If Mr. Sankey had done his job in the first place, there would not be as much as an issue. The "back-side" kissing has been quite obvious.
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trouble said:

Can't do that or the pitcher and Mike get tossed for 4 games.


Here's what we do… we go opener as a starter. Get a flame throwing freshmen who never sees action and have him plunk the sip. Then enter Myles Patton. Also announce Claunch as the head coach for today only so he gets ejected and Mike can stay in
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mwm said:

Players will sometimes get "snippy" with each other. I understand that. Sport, at that level, is a highly emotional activity.

Having watched the clip, I think the real fault lies with the 1B umpire. He could have, should have, immediately ejected the tu runner told them to shut up and play fkn baseball. He didn't. And, because, he didn't, he impliedly approved of that activity. As a result, that kind of activity is allowed to go "unchecked".

My opinion only.
FIFY

There was no reason to eject anyone for jaw-jacking each other.

But, if there was an ejection, it should've been both players.

It was a BS call. They lost nothing. We lost our starting first baseman.
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I understand your point, but my comment was in reference to the tu-ttu game where the tu guy (Gasparino) went out of his way to run into the 1B man ((Kash). Sorry I wasn't clear.
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mwm said:

I understand your point, but my comment was in reference to the tu-ttu game where the tu guy (Gasparino) went out of his way to run into the 1B man ((Kash). Sorry I wasn't clear.
It was very clear what you were referring to since you specifically said "having watched the clip"
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Oh, he's from Los Angeles. That explains it.
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Why wasn't Gasparino tossed also?
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MosesRAB-93 said:

Why wasn't Gasparino tossed also?

In our game or the Tech game? In ours, the officials told Earley they didn't hear Gasparino say anything
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Decay said:

MosesRAB-93 said:

Why wasn't Gasparino tossed also?

In our game or the Tech game? In ours, the officials told Earley they didn't hear Gasparino say anything


So they are saying Selective hearing? My wife claims I have that too.

Like the other day she said "are you even listening to me" and I thought that was a really weird way to start a conversation
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Decay said:

MosesRAB-93 said:

Why wasn't Gasparino tossed also?

In our game or the Tech game? In ours, the officials told Earley they didn't hear Gasparino say anything
Of course they didn't

Kash just happened to go on an impromptu rage. Apropos of nothing.
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So, Kash was tossed for barking back at Gasparino? What did he say that was si egregious?
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Technically, he was ejected for taking 2 steps towards the sip dugout.
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dixichkn said:

Decay said:

MosesRAB-93 said:

Why wasn't Gasparino tossed also?

In our game or the Tech game? In ours, the officials told Earley they didn't hear Gasparino say anything
Of course they didn't

Kash just happened to go on an impromptu rage. Apropos of nothing.


Riiiiiight? Soup just hustled his ass in to not say anything even though his lips were moving.
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my biggest problem was the lack of fight in Earley for this. If there was ever a good time to bring a little heat in the umps face, that was it. Instead, he took the explanation and moved on. Baseball can run on emotions. Many games have been won purely by the motivation of a coach having his players back and getting tossed out. It can be calculated or spontaneous. But at least show some fight there.
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It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?

I'm waiting for a coach to pull his players off the field. THAT would send a message. If the umpires want to call a forfeit? Let them. They were clearly not going to let A&M win the game anyway. And then let them make all the fans mad for buying tickets and not getting a game in.
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Maybe you only saw what they showed on tv? Earley fought with them about it for a long time. Went back to them like 3 times even.
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Aggies2009 said:

It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?


its not that tough. If we don't have an assistant coach that can take over for a few innings, then we have even more problems than we thought.
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Alyag08 said:

Maybe you only saw what they showed on tv? Earley fought with them about it for a long time. Went back to them like 3 times even.
TV wouldn't miss a second of coverage if a coach was giving the ump what for. It is ratings.
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I was there. I went back and saw what they showed on tv. They missed a lot
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But they did. Earley didn't stop while the cameras moved to the sip dugout and to Hayden who said words I've never seen him use in the dugout before.
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shalackin said:

Aggies2009 said:

It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?


its not that tough. If we don't have an assistant coach that can take over for a few innings, then we have even more problems than we thought.
Yeah but what good comes of him being tossed? We get to sit on a forum and say, "Our coach sure showed fight!"? No. It just looks like a tantrum. Pull your team off the field. Send the message that we won't deal with this level of officiating.
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Aggies2009 said:

shalackin said:

Aggies2009 said:

It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?


its not that tough. If we don't have an assistant coach that can take over for a few innings, then we have even more problems than we thought.
Yeah but what good comes of him being tossed? We get to sit on a forum and say, "Our coach sure showed fight!"? No. It just looks like a tantrum. Pull your team off the field and see what happens.
Forfeit a game because you're pinch hitter got tossed after responding to some jawing? Sorry, that's a rather crazy suggestion. We still had every opportunity to win the game.
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twk said:

Aggies2009 said:

shalackin said:

Aggies2009 said:

It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?


its not that tough. If we don't have an assistant coach that can take over for a few innings, then we have even more problems than we thought.
Yeah but what good comes of him being tossed? We get to sit on a forum and say, "Our coach sure showed fight!"? No. It just looks like a tantrum. Pull your team off the field and see what happens.
Forfeit a game because you're pinch hitter got tossed after responding to some jawing? Sorry, that's a rather crazy suggestion. We still had every opportunity to win the game.
True. No real winning in that situation, is there?

Still, as it turned out, our guy gets tossed because their guy starts something. And we complain about it on forums and Earley said some things to umpires that they forgot by the time they got home. What can you do?

This is why people didn't want them in the SEC.
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Quote:

This is why people didn't want them in the SEC.
I'm with you there. I've also seen the incredible shrinking strikezone at the Disch before.
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Aggies2009 said:

shalackin said:

Aggies2009 said:

It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?


its not that tough. If we don't have an assistant coach that can take over for a few innings, then we have even more problems than we thought.
Yeah but what good comes of him being tossed? We get to sit on a forum and say, "Our coach sure showed fight!"? No. It just looks like a tantrum. Pull your team off the field. Send the message that we won't deal with this level of officiating.
Pull your team off the field? That doesn't make any sense. Lots of good can come from being tossed as a head coach. It can be a motivational tool and show of leadership. Not saying you have to throw a giant tantrum. Good coaches know the limits, and know how far to push them as well. If not during that opportunity, maybe stop the game to argue some of the horrible strike/ball calls that led to them gaining the lead. Sometimes you need a spark. And sometimes that spark can be from the head coach. Baseball today is soft.
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shalackin said:

Aggies2009 said:

It's a tough line to walk. If he gets tossed, then what?


its not that tough. If we don't have an assistant coach that can take over for a few innings, then we have even more problems than we thought.
It's not a few innings, though. It's a few innings and the entire next game. Considering how big this series is, I can understand Earley wanting to stay in it.

I personally think the rule of automatic suspension after an ejection is stupid. Makes the umpires reluctant to do it and it makes coaches reluctant to get tossed. If what the offender did was super egregious, sure, leave a possible suspension up to umpire discretion. But it shouldn't be automatic.
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"Pull your team off the field" might be the craziest suggestion I've seen on Texags this year
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Given how you've shown your ass all weekend here, I'll take that as a compliment.
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In the video clip from the ttu game, it looks to me like the tech first baseman was all over the run path. My recollection from our game was that Gasparino had to reach over to shove Kash. Does anyone have a video clip from our game?
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