and apparently makes 65k per year

Luke The Drifter said:

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Oh...I hear you. Happens all the time. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

I've been in the professional sector for over 30 years now and I've had employees come and go. I get that folks are always going to look for the next bigger, better opportunity. I've supported employees countless times as they've sought (alleged) greener pastures. But the instant they were not giving me their 100% attention and 100% best effort, I cut them loose. The organization is always bigger than one employee, regardless of where that employee is in the organization. I feel the same way with coaches. If you know your guy is leaving...go ahead and send him on his way. If he's going to leave you...and his mind is already fully engaged with his next opportunity...you owe him nothing. Cut ties and start building for the future.

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If we had cut Schloss in April/May last year when he started missing meetings and Trev started suspecting him of wanting to leave, do you think we would have made it to the CWS finals?

Plus, we would have been on the hook for his buyout, whereas when he left of his own accord, t.u. had to pay us.

swimmerbabe11 said:

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and apparently makes 65k per year

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I'd accept $65,000 a year to cut grass.

ensign_beedrill said:

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Luke The Drifter said:

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Oh...I hear you. Happens all the time. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

I've been in the professional sector for over 30 years now and I've had employees come and go. I get that folks are always going to look for the next bigger, better opportunity. I've supported employees countless times as they've sought (alleged) greener pastures. But the instant they were not giving me their 100% attention and 100% best effort, I cut them loose. The organization is always bigger than one employee, regardless of where that employee is in the organization. I feel the same way with coaches. If you know your guy is leaving...go ahead and send him on his way. If he's going to leave you...and his mind is already fully engaged with his next opportunity...you owe him nothing. Cut ties and start building for the future.

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If we had cut Schloss in April/May last year when he started missing meetings and Trev started suspecting him of wanting to leave, do you think we would have made it to the CWS finals?

Plus, we would have been on the hook for his buyout, whereas when he left of his own accord, t.u. had to pay us.

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Luke measures the kowtow by the depth of the bow…

WRONG! It seems everything is done through back channels these days. There are ways of finding things out. Privately confront Schloser and try and get a reading on him. If your gut says he is not satisfied here and perhaps dealing with his buddy at tu. Then you go through back channels like tu did. It is not ideal with the season we were having, but not being prepared got us in the position we are in. Posters like you have no reason to whine.

Talk about a facilities upgrade for him

Talk about a facilities upgrade for him

ensign_beedrill said:

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Luke The Drifter said:

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Oh...I hear you. Happens all the time. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

I've been in the professional sector for over 30 years now and I've had employees come and go. I get that folks are always going to look for the next bigger, better opportunity. I've supported employees countless times as they've sought (alleged) greener pastures. But the instant they were not giving me their 100% attention and 100% best effort, I cut them loose. The organization is always bigger than one employee, regardless of where that employee is in the organization. I feel the same way with coaches. If you know your guy is leaving...go ahead and send him on his way. If he's going to leave you...and his mind is already fully engaged with his next opportunity...you owe him nothing. Cut ties and start building for the future.

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If we had cut Schloss in April/May last year when he started missing meetings and Trev started suspecting him of wanting to leave, do you think we would have made it to the CWS finals?

Plus, we would have been on the hook for his buyout, whereas when he left of his own accord, t.u. had to pay us.

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It would have sucked, but I still believe the A&M baseball program as a whole is bigger than just one man (coach, player, or otherwise.) When our previous coach started screwing us - no pun intended - then we owed him or his current employer absolutely nothing. Had we been able to prove in April he was actively recruiting players to Austin, I bet we could have fired him with cause and would have owed him nothing in buyout dollars. Plus, we could have humiliated and exposed our biggest rivals in the process. If nothing else, the Court of Public Opinion would have been 100% on our side...for whatever that's worth.

LB12Diamond said:

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Dude

We were one game from winning it all. The best finish we have ever had in Baseball. What in the world are you talking about? I mean, I know we make our own Aggie jokes all the time. But blowing the whole thing up in the middle of that run was not going to happen. Thankfully

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That would have been the most Aggie thing ever

StinkyPinky said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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Dude

We were one game from winning it all. The best finish we have ever had in Baseball. What in the world are you talking about? I mean, I know we make our own Aggie jokes all the time. But blowing the whole thing up in the middle of that run was not going to happen. Thankfully

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That would have been the most Aggie thing ever

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Oh yea...it would have been unconventional, no doubt about it. Maybe I'm still just bent out of shape at how it all went down...and what we ultimately ended up with once the dust settled.

Luke The Drifter said:

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ensign_beedrill said:

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Luke The Drifter said:

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Oh...I hear you. Happens all the time. But that doesn't mean I have to like it.

I've been in the professional sector for over 30 years now and I've had employees come and go. I get that folks are always going to look for the next bigger, better opportunity. I've supported employees countless times as they've sought (alleged) greener pastures. But the instant they were not giving me their 100% attention and 100% best effort, I cut them loose. The organization is always bigger than one employee, regardless of where that employee is in the organization. I feel the same way with coaches. If you know your guy is leaving...go ahead and send him on his way. If he's going to leave you...and his mind is already fully engaged with his next opportunity...you owe him nothing. Cut ties and start building for the future.

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If we had cut Schloss in April/May last year when he started missing meetings and Trev started suspecting him of wanting to leave, do you think we would have made it to the CWS finals?

Plus, we would have been on the hook for his buyout, whereas when he left of his own accord, t.u. had to pay us.

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It would have sucked, but I still believe the A&M baseball program as a whole is bigger than just one man (coach, player, or otherwise.) When our previous coach started screwing us - no pun intended - then we owed him or his current employer absolutely nothing. Had we been able to prove in April he was actively recruiting players to Austin, I bet we could have fired him with cause and would have owed him nothing in buyout dollars. Plus, we could have humiliated and exposed our biggest rivals in the process. If nothing else, the Court of Public Opinion would have been 100% on our side...for whatever that's worth.

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Didnt they have to pay us for him to leave?

If you botched the last job, created lots of excess waste and/or expenditure of funds, cratered co-workers and subcontractors jobs in the process, and ultimately caused lots of negative PR for the company being left…. Yes that's a problem.

And I'm not saying this to be argumentative, I'm speaking from the standpoint of someone not focusing on their current job as they should and having one foot out the door.

Knowing that your parachute and landing spot are pristine no matter what you do the last few days can make for an interesting situation. And I think everyone would be slightly mentally/physically affected by that change that's coming.

Luke The Drifter said:

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StinkyPinky said:

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LB12Diamond said:

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Dude

We were one game from winning it all. The best finish we have ever had in Baseball. What in the world are you talking about? I mean, I know we make our own Aggie jokes all the time. But blowing the whole thing up in the middle of that run was not going to happen. Thankfully

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That would have been the most Aggie thing ever

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Oh yea...it would have been unconventional, no doubt about it. Maybe I'm still just bent out of shape at how it all went down...and what we ultimately ended up with once the dust settled.

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Yea, I think we're all still recovering. I definitely get the sentiment.

It would have sucked, but I still believe the A&M baseball program as a whole is bigger than just one man (coach, player, or otherwise.) When our previous coach started screwing us - no pun intended - then we owed him or his current employer absolutely nothing. Had we been able to prove in April he was actively recruiting players to Austin, I bet we could have fired him with cause and would have owed him nothing in buyout dollars. Plus, we could have humiliated and exposed our biggest rivals in the process. If nothing else, the Court of Public Opinion would have been 100% on our side...for whatever that's worth.

But I don't think there WAS any way to prove it. So here we are.

It must be Groundhog Day.

This thought was already shot down appropriately above on this thread.

85AustinAg said:

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It would have sucked, but I still believe the A&M baseball program as a whole is bigger than just one man (coach, player, or otherwise.) When our previous coach started screwing us - no pun intended - then we owed him or his current employer absolutely nothing. Had we been able to prove in April he was actively recruiting players to Austin, I bet we could have fired him with cause and would have owed him nothing in buyout dollars. Plus, we could have humiliated and exposed our biggest rivals in the process. If nothing else, the Court of Public Opinion would have been 100% on our side...for whatever that's worth.

But I don't think there WAS any way to prove it. So here we are.

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Are we national runner up if we had fired him in April? Probably not

what an unserious position to take