Ags drop to #9 in latest D1 top 25

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Bottom line is you gotta protect at home but very frustrating (and I knew it would happen) that Georgia and Ole Miss had very similar 2-2 weeks in the last couple of weeks and DID NOT drop.

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It's not just what you do, it's also what the teams just in front of, and behind you do. and it also doesn't help if what "you do" is getting run ruled at home.
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Eh, I'm not too upset. I figured at minimum we'd swap places with Auburn (drop to #8), so this isn't outrageous or anything.
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Not much concerned with rankings here on out. Conference standings, RPI and SOS watching is much more meaningful.
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If Moss didn't step up, it could have been a lot worse. Auburn pretty much shut down Ag bats in our house, and that's not a good look. Hoping Partida gets back quickly. Bindernut isn't much offense.
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Backing out of the top 8 is what we do…
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Its simple. Our pitching proved the doubters right and the elite offense looked pretty average at home

They can't just have the top 10 all SEC teams - so for now, we're the sacrificial SEC lamb
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Pepesilvia said:

Its simple. Our pitching proved the doubters right and the elite offense looked pretty average at home

They can't just have the top 10 all SEC teams - so for now, we're the sacrificial SEC lamb

Uh, we're in the top 10...
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We are # 8 rpi at Walter Nolan
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AgEng06 said:

Eh, I'm not too upset. I figured at minimum we'd swap places with Auburn (drop to #8), so this isn't outrageous or anything.
. I thought a swap was what would happen. One blowout but two other games were one run games with loser on the verge of tying the game.
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Auburn has a very good team. Won't be surprised if they are in the final 4 at Omaha
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just gonna throw this out here but we got beat 2-3 by Auburn (one of those wins would have been a last inning loss if that ball would have been 1 foot to the right), and we drop below them, but we sweep sips and now are later in the season with identical records so you cant say we have not played good teams, and they still remain in front of us.

I dont overly care that much about it because in the end we will be responsible for taking care of it in a regional or super regional, but it is comical how others can say they deserve to be ahead of us when we clearly beat them head to head. They finish with Tennesee and Missouri and we finish with Ole Miss and Miss State, both ranked teams.
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agswin1988 said:

just gonna throw this out here but we got beat 2-3 by Auburn (one of those wins would have been a last inning loss if that ball would have been 1 foot to the right), and we drop below them, but we sweep sips and now are later in the season with identical records so you cant say we have not played good teams, and they still remain in front of us.

I dont overly care that much about it because in the end we will be responsible for taking care of it in a regional or super regional, but it is comical how others can say they deserve to be ahead of us when we clearly beat them head to head. They finish with Tennesee and Missouri and we finish with Ole Miss and Miss State, both ranked teams.

In addition to head-to-head they are probably looking at SOS, Quad 1 W/L, RPI, etc. It's possible the latter are outweighing A&M's home wins against Texas.
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agswin1988 said:

just gonna throw this out here but we got beat 2-3 by Auburn (one of those wins would have been a last inning loss if that ball would have been 1 foot to the right), and we drop below them, but we sweep sips and now are later in the season with identical records so you cant say we have not played good teams, and they still remain in front of us.

I dont overly care that much about it because in the end we will be responsible for taking care of it in a regional or super regional, but it is comical how others can say they deserve to be ahead of us when we clearly beat them head to head. They finish with Tennesee and Missouri and we finish with Ole Miss and Miss State, both ranked teams.

The sips beat Auburn, we beat the sips, Auburn beat us. So use your methodology and put together some rankings...

And then go look at SOS, RPI, and record vs top-25 between those 3 teams.
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TMartin said:


If Moss didn't step up, it could have been a lot worse. Auburn pretty much shut down Ag bats in our house, and that's not a good look. Hoping Partida gets back quickly. Bindernut isn't much offense.

Binderup swung the bat well yesterday. He got our second hit with a LD to left. Near the end of the game he lined out to right, opposite field. He is definitely not on par with Partida, but with Nico out, he is the best option. And sit Duer. His only skill is a contact hitter. He is a terrible out fielder with no arm, and he plugs up the base path because he is slooooow.
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What puzzles me is the sudden elevation of Kansas, a team that leads a conference with only three ranked teams. Overrrrrrrrrrrrrrrated.
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Doesn't matter--JUST WIN DAMMIT!!!!

At least we didn't get swept, that's the bare minimum you do in conference play as anybody can get swept in this conference --JUST WIN DAMMIT!!!!

We very easily could have won the second game but we didn't and life goes on.
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Kansas baseball is more of a fraud than Tech football. Does their HS stadium even meet minimum specs and requirements to host a regional?

Would be great to finish strong and be a top 8 seed, but my focus is on hosting and winning a regional, no matter what seed or Super Regional it would send us to.

This has been a very good bounce back year after last season and the way the first two conference series went. It's baseball, we easily could have won game 2 vs War Eagle, or choked away the game we won, it happens.

If we finish 4-2 in our last 2 SEC series that could/should lock up a top 8 seed I would think. Critical to go at least 3-3 which would at least maintain a higher 9-12 seed I would think/hope.

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Win the next 2 series and we will be a National seed. It's that simple
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I think we should have tunnel vision and do what is best for Aggie baseball this season. If we had come into Tuesday's game against PV with a rpi of 25 we play. But now that we have a legit chance to host through the supers, we should not make that path more difficult and take a rpi drop for just playing the game. The system is flawed because the PV game should not hurt our chances if we win big. But the system is what it is.
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I don't really care keep winning and get to the playoffs. We came damn close to winning that second game. Of course, getting damn close doesn't do the job, but I've never really cared about the rankings as much. Overall, we're still doing what we need to do.

Funny thing is if tu hadn't come back yesterday and had that big third inning I guarantee they would not have dropped more than one if they dropped it all. I think staying in the top 10 is good.
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Next 2 SEC series:

6-0: Definitely a top 8 seed
5-1: Most likely a top 8 seed
4-2: Bubble for top 8 seed
3-3: Hosting but not likely a top 8 seed
2-4: Likely to host a regional
1-5: 50/50 to host a regional
0-6: 2 seed somewhere
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I think the SEC will get at least four top 8 seeds

3 of the 4 seem to be spoken for: UGA, t.u., and Auburn

the 4th one is open
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W said:

I think the SEC will get at least four top 8 seeds

3 of the 4 seem to be spoken for: UGA, t.u., and Auburn

the 4th one is open

If the SEC only gets 3 top 8s and both us and Auburn go 3-3 in the last 2 series….it would be hard to swallow to see them in top 8 and us not with this finish (pre-SEC tourney).
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I'm sure whether we are top 8 or next 8 will will be matched up with an SEC team in the super regionals. The SEC tournament actually decides the conference title so it would be nice to win that and having a 2 or 3 seed is the preferred path to getting that done.
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Why aren't records/standings factored into any of this? Seems like everyone is blindly following RPI..
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Because:

1) A 16-14 record in the SEC =/= a 16-14 record in the Big 10
2) Not all 16-14 records in the SEC are the same (some teams plays SC AND Mizzu)
3) Teams deserve to be rewarded for playing a harder non-conference schedule.
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Everybody plays 10 series so even within the conferences 15-15 might be really good or very mediocre depending on how many bottom feeders were on your schedule

We need LSU to get hot because the wins in Red Stick are getting less impressive every week that goes by
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yes, there could be as many as 5 or 6 SEC teams seeded in the #5 to #12 range

setting up numerous SR rematch possibilities for A&M, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, and State

the lucky team will be paired with Kansas

let's say the Jayhawks are the #7 overall...then the #10 spot looks attractive
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W said:

yes, there could be as many as 5 or 6 SEC teams seeded in the #5 to #12 range

setting up numerous SR rematch possibilities for A&M, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, and State

the lucky team will be paired with Kansas

let's say the Jayhawks are the #7 overall...then the #10 spot looks attractive

The NCAA will figure out a way to pair Kansas with tu.
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Spirit856 said:

Why aren't records/standings factored into any of this? Seems like everyone is blindly following RPI..

Performance within conference play (standings) is a determinate.

Key factors in determining the top 8 seeds:
  • RPI (Rating Percentage Index): The core metric used by the NCAA committee to rank teams.
  • Strength of Schedule (SOS): Performance against high-quality opponents is prioritized over simply having a high win total, as strength of schedule is a major factor.
  • Quality Wins/Record: The committee examines record against top-25 teams and performance within conference play.
  • Conference Tournament Performance: Late-season success in conference tournaments can significantly influence final seeding.
  • Road Performance: A strong record in challenging away environments
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fireinthehole said:

TMartin said:


If Moss didn't step up, it could have been a lot worse. Auburn pretty much shut down Ag bats in our house, and that's not a good look. Hoping Partida gets back quickly. Bindernut isn't much offense.

Binderup swung the bat well yesterday. He got our second hit with a LD to left. Near the end of the game he lined out to right, opposite field. He is definitely not on par with Partida, but with Nico out, he is the best option. And sit Duer. His only skill is a contact hitter. He is a terrible out fielder with no arm, and he plugs up the base path because he is slooooow.

Bindernut is a combination or Binderup and Chestnut.
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58-7 said:

Spirit856 said:

Why aren't records/standings factored into any of this? Seems like everyone is blindly following RPI..

Performance within conference play (standings) is a determinate.

Key factors in determining the top 8 seeds:
  • RPI (Rating Percentage Index): The core metric used by the NCAA committee to rank teams.
  • Strength of Schedule (SOS): Performance against high-quality opponents is prioritized over simply having a high win total, as strength of schedule is a major factor.
  • Quality Wins/Record: The committee examines record against top-25 teams and performance within conference play.
  • Conference Tournament Performance: Late-season success in conference tournaments can significantly influence final seeding.
  • Road Performance: A strong record in challenging away environments

All of above with zero transparency…
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2nd in sec is just fine by me.
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greg.w.h said:

58-7 said:

Spirit856 said:

Why aren't records/standings factored into any of this? Seems like everyone is blindly following RPI..

Performance within conference play (standings) is a determinate.

Key factors in determining the top 8 seeds:
  • RPI (Rating Percentage Index): The core metric used by the NCAA committee to rank teams.
  • Strength of Schedule (SOS): Performance against high-quality opponents is prioritized over simply having a high win total, as strength of schedule is a major factor.
  • Quality Wins/Record: The committee examines record against top-25 teams and performance within conference play.
  • Conference Tournament Performance: Late-season success in conference tournaments can significantly influence final seeding.
  • Road Performance: A strong record in challenging away environments


All of above with zero transparency…

Absolutely.
The SOS should way SEC very heavy. Other than a couple of other SEC schools, who has played a similar schedule as:
v UCLA when they were #1
@ OU when they were ranked #9 x3
v Geo when they were #7 x3
v sips when they were #2 x 2
@ defending champ LSU x 3
@ Florida when they were #21 x 3
v Aub when they were #8 x 3
@ Ole Miss #20 x 3
v MSU #11 x 3
10-8 vs that group and that is also 15 games vs the top 11
Yet a predicted #23 SOS at the end of the year. Yeah right.
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