In theory the top 32 were seeded. In fact? Maybe not…at least not in order…

Well. Only one could get that spot.

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Our non-conference schedule sucks. Get one series with someone with a pulse and add teams like Baylor, DBU, or Louisiana to mid-week.

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Not sure Baylor has a pulse.

So if we schedule tougher midweeks and lose more midweeks, it helps our seeding??

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So if we schedule tougher midweeks and lose more midweeks, it helps our seeding??

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Theoretically, we could play the same teams we are playing right now, just play more of those games on the road, and it would increase our RPI, whatever the results, because you get more credit for a road win (less penalty for a road loss) than you do at home. But, playing fewer home games means less money, so that's not likely to happen.

8 home and 4 away Tuesday games seems very reasonable.

I have no confidence in our team making it out of our own regional.

Hope I'm wrong.

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Of course Texas got the easy draw.

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Can't have UTSA knocking them out again.

I don't think we have any control over which teams they invite to these tournaments that we do early in the season.

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jefe95 said:

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Of course Texas got the easy draw.

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Didn't they lose 6-1 to Tarleton State in Austin? Otherwise easy as utsa was last year.

UCSB and Tarelton are legit teams

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ensign_beedrill said:

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CC00 said:

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Our non-conference schedule sucks. Get one series with someone with a pulse and add teams like Baylor, DBU, or Louisiana to mid-week.

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Not sure Baylor has a pulse.

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TCU does though.

Now im wondering how (and why) we got fullerton to come to BCS for a midweek. And reigning national champ Oregon state (cant remember if mid week or 3 game series).

None of the games I listed were part of those tournaments for either team. They are the 3 non-conference series we scheduled at home.

We played RPI 42, 1, and 44 in Arlington at the tournament. Not an issue at all. The problem is the terrible, awful, no good, very bad teams we played in other non-conference weekend series that are the major issue.

3x 250
3x 171
3x 294

For reference, Missouri, the worst team in the SEC in a very long time, is 109.
Lamar, coming to CS this weekend is 90.

To be fair, Brauny has highlighted that get anyone to schedule series with us after pos left was an issue. I can't say I have any backstory or understand that to any extent at all, but it sounds fishy at best.

I will die on this hill that our scheduling is bad and we should at least try to improve the non-conference series. Those 9 games + PVAM may very well have cost us a top 8 this year, 6-14 are separated by a mere 94 RPI points. Only 36 points between 10-14...

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jefe95 said:

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Of course Texas got the easy draw.

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Can't have UTSA knocking them out again.

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Committee kept them out of the tournament for doing this last year.

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To be fair, Brauny has highlighted that get anyone to schedule series with us after pos left was an issue. I can't say I have any backstory or understand that to any extent at all, but it sounds fishy at best.

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Huh? This is the first I've heard this. Very odd.

ensign_beedrill said:

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8 home and 4 away Tuesday games seems very reasonable.

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Heck, I was just asking for 10-2 and quit scheduling sub 250 RPI teams!!

Sean98 said:

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ensign_beedrill said:

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8 home and 4 away Tuesday games seems very reasonable.

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Heck, I was just asking for 10-2 and quit scheduling sub 250 RPI teams!!

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I'd go with the split midweeks against teams like Texas State, TCU, DBU and UTSA.

One at home against each and then a return trip later in the year or vice versa.

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Sean98 said:

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ensign_beedrill said:

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8 home and 4 away Tuesday games seems very reasonable.

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Heck, I was just asking for 10-2 and quit scheduling sub 250 RPI teams!!

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I'd go with the split midweeks against teams like Texas State, TCU, DBU and UTSA.

One at home against each and then a return trip later in the year or vice versa.

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That's exactly what I'm suggesting. 4 home and homes per year, rotating by year. Sub 120 RPIs, preferably sub 75. There's plenty of teams in our region that fit that metric on a normal basis.

And yes, as RedAg said, we simply MUST stop scheduling 250+ RPIs for 3 game series. It's just murder on the data points.

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tjack16 said:

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Sean98 said:

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ensign_beedrill said:

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8 home and 4 away Tuesday games seems very reasonable.

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Heck, I was just asking for 10-2 and quit scheduling sub 250 RPI teams!!

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I'd go with the split midweeks against teams like Texas State, TCU, DBU and UTSA.

One at home against each and then a return trip later in the year or vice versa.

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That's exactly what I'm suggesting. 4 home and homes per year, rotating by year. Sub 120 RPIs, preferably sub 75. There's plenty of teams in our region that fit that metric on a normal basis.

And yes, as RedAg said, we simply MUST stop scheduling 250+ RPIs for 3 game series. It's just murder on the data points.

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Yep.

Midweek ideas (play them once or twice alternating home and road): TCU, DBU, UTSA, Texas State, Houston. About 7-8 games total against those 5 opponents

Non conf weekends:
- cupcake opener
- MLB tournament
- P4 opponent at home (middle of the pack Big 10, ACC, Big 12)

That would do wonders, and we'd maintain the ability to get out of the non conference with 3 or fewer losses if we are a good squad

Why don't we boost our system schools to get better? Get them some NIL money and they could become a quasi farm system. We write these schools checks to play us. We might as well use them while also improving their programs.

100%. Even the worst P4 offenders are miles and miles better than what we've scheduled.

The ACC has 15 schools. Only Stanford is >100 at 104. Other schools are 2, 4, 8, 34, 30, 20, 42, 26, 51, 68, 91, 59, 39, 49 and 86

Big 10 is a little worse, 7 of 17 schools are in the 100s - 1, 10, 9, 15, 54, 87, 53, 67, 101, 122, 156, 93, 106, 85, 93, 106, 85, 124, 197, 150

Big 12 is similar to B10, 4 of 14 - 19, 17, 44, 36, 29, 22, 46, 61, 77, 103, 55, 126, 189, 108

Hell even the Fun / Sun Belt only have 1 200+ team this year -- 12, 27, 64, 113, 35, 33, 43, 115, 130, 188, 58, 173, 181, 204*

*this is Georgia Southern, ranked RPI 204. They were 16-40 overall and 7-23 in the Sun Belt. To give folks an idea about just how terrible it is we had 3 series and 1 midweek at this level or worse.

So the flagship school gives away some of it's own personal revenue or NIL in order to prop up a system school? Why on earth would we be interested in doing that at all?

Are you a socialist or do you just play one on Wednesdays?

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Non conf weekends:
- cupcake opener
- MLB tournament
- P4 opponent at home (middle of the pack Big 10, ACC, Big 12)

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Why would these teams agree to come to Olsen without a return trip?

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Non conf weekends:
- cupcake opener
- MLB tournament
- P4 opponent at home (middle of the pack Big 10, ACC, Big 12)

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Why would these teams agree to come to Olsen without a return trip?

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For the same reason we want to host them. Think of the RPI boost they'd get from going on the road to an SEC school.

A school like Maryland, Kansas state, Duke, etc. Even if they went 1-2 against us on a road weekend, their RPI would be in a great spot

And if they did want a return trip, then why wouldn't we? Just drop the MLB tournament and make a P4 road weekend out of it. Would be about the same RPI difference based on who it is.

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Sean98 said:

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ensign_beedrill said:

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8 home and 4 away Tuesday games seems very reasonable.

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Heck, I was just asking for 10-2 and quit scheduling sub 250 RPI teams!!

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I'd go with the split midweeks against teams like Texas State, TCU, DBU and UTSA.

One at home against each and then a return trip later in the year or vice versa.

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That's exactly what I'm suggesting. 4 home and homes per year, rotating by year. Sub 120 RPIs, preferably sub 75. There's plenty of teams in our region that fit that metric on a normal basis.

And yes, as RedAg said, we simply MUST stop scheduling 250+ RPIs for 3 game series. It's just murder on the data points.

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About the only exception to this might be the opening series of the season just to get our feet wet. But still, you should be able to do that with a 150-200 range RPI team and not commit metrics suicide.

I don't think you'd get many p4 teams to take a 1-off road trip to B/CS. ...you actually might be able to get a Big 10 team as it's too cold for home games the first 3-4 weeks.

Where I think your options lie here are in the Big East, So Con, Sun Belt, etc. Those are schools that are good enough to beat team, and thus, they have a hard time getting good games. But at the end of the day they're all aware that if they don't win their conference tourney there's a chance they get F'd by the committee. So they need all the RPI & SOS they can get. I'm betting Mercer is wishing they'd come to College Station this year rather than playing Columbia and Penn at home. They'll get 9 months to think about it since they're done for the year.


...while we're at it, I'm A-Ok with the understanding that we're probably going to lose a few more games by actually playing teams with a pulse. And if you do play one of those absolute cupcakes you should really play a LOT of backups to get them actual game experience. Not only are we playing cupcakes, we're playing our starters against cupcakes in most circumstances. I know you want some continuity and rhythm, but you need ABs for your down roster guys and you need to see more innings from the depths of your bullpen to develop guys for this time of year. Darden, Lyons, Freshcorn shouldn't be throwing on Tuesdays, but they did a lot.

I'm fine if you play Penn Elementary School in week 1. It's Oakland in Week 4 that is the killer.