I hope the people in charge do not see this season as progress.

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We don't take winning seriously enough like one of the other schools in the state. Sickening.
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Blinnaggie2002 said:

We don't take winning seriously enough like one of the other schools in the state. Sickening.

What blows my mind the most reading the thread is this idea that he is somehow building a program from the ground up. He was handed the No.1 team in the country coming off of a NC series and now we are celebrating losing a home regional two years later as progress.

I don't understand that.
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I believe the word is called cope
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hunter2012 said:

I believe the word is called cope

Yes, it has to be BAS cope trauma.

The comparisons to the LSU coach crack me up as well with him winning the NC last year and not making the playoffs this year. Those are not apples to apples. LSU lost most of their roster. We are just now at that point two years later with all that roster gone. This next season will be the one to actually compare.
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We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.
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WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


Offense sure as hell was a problem the last several weeks. Especially when it counted

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WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately
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Captain Pablo said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


Offense sure as hell was a problem the last several weeks. Especially when it counted




And there is still a problem to fix....replacing all the guys not returning.
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AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.
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Blinnaggie2002 said:

We don't take winning seriously enough like one of the other schools in the state. Sickening.

Do you? If you do, write the check to buy him out.
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agsalaska said:

Earley is a failure of a head coach at A&M in every definition of the word. But now we are stuck with him.

He should have been fired last year. But we were dumb and stuck with him. Now we are…..stuck with him. This year is our future.

We are now stuck with this crap for probably two more years.

Outside of a three week or so stretch this team wasn't much different than last year. In our future We will UIL whip our way into some wins and have some streaks and catch some luck. It this is it. This is what we can expect.

Thanks everyone who supported keeping Earley. You own this. Great programs would have fired him.



Edit to fix the spelling of his name. Autocorrect was being too aggressive

This is silly. Obviously hosting a regional and going to a regional final is by definition better than not making the tourney. You just want to fire Earley. Which is fine,

Next.
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TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.
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AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,
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Portal players that never make it to campus is not addressing anything.

Counting on Stewart coming off so many prior injuries, good luck with that one bc he had issues almost every year in college and finally hung it up. Was anyone actually surprised at all with this one?

Prior to the season pitching was the number one concern by all for this team. If it's such a great concern prior to the season ever starting, that means pitching was NOT properly addressed prior to the season.
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dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,


Message boards in general are wasted words
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AgRyan04 said:

dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,


Message boards in general are wasted words

Except recruits and their families read them.
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LB12MEEN said:

Portal players that never make it to campus is not addressing anything.

Counting on Stewart coming off so many prior injuries, good luck with that one bc he had issues almost every year in college and finally hung it up. Was anyone actually surprised at all with this one?

Prior to the season pitching was the number one concern by all for this team. If it's such a great concern prior to the season ever starting, that means pitching was NOT properly addressed prior to the season.

So you are Fire Earley?
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If that was actually an option yes, but it has been posted on here by those that state they have connections if he made a regional he would be retained. And I'm not surprised by that given the contract details.

The team has tons more to fix this season than last so it will all work itself out. Lots of concerns with Earley's first two years, the most for my self that both seasons the team faded the last month of the season and digressed. A&M coaches with that trend in any sport typically don't get another contract.
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Wabs
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Meanwhile Rob Vaughn about to take Bama to Omaha. First time since 1999.
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dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,


Message boards in general are wasted words

Except recruits and their families read them.


Well, we wouldn't want them to be blindsided by white washing everything.
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LB12MEEN said:

If that was actually an option yes, but it has been posted on here by those that state they have connections if he made a regional he would be retained. And I'm not surprised by that given the contract details.

The team has tons more to fix this season than last so it will all work itself out. Lots of concerns with Earley's first two years, the most for my self that both seasons the team faded the last month of the season and digressed. A&M coaches with that trend in any sport typically don't get another contract.


Above everything else, that is my biggest takeaway/concern as well. We saw glimpses of what both teams were capable of - the talent was obviously there to win some of the series they did - but then they turned around and fell apart the last 3-4 weeks of each season.
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Blinnaggie2002 said:

We don't take winning seriously enough like one of the other schools in the state. Sickening.


Rice?
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Derm, I know you're patient and you believe in Earley, but what he was saying is, our expectation fell drastically from 2025 to 2026. I took that post as, "we can't be satisfied with our expectations going down." And also, that at some point, we have to end the experiment and find a proven leader if this on-the-job learning takes too long. Next year he will have a staff completely different from his first one, two years under his belt, and most if not all of the inherited players from the 2024 team will have moved on. IMO, next season is make or break.

Philosophical differences aside, I appreciate all you do for the forum and I am sorry to hear about those DM's that have been spamming your inbox.
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dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,


This is, with all due respect, pure stupidity. While there are hand grenade posters who just want him gone, and there are the others who blindly want to feel like an Aggie elite by saying they're pro program no matter what until a change is made, there actually is good discussion in the middle on this board. Way more so on this board than basketball and of course football.

Don't try to make it black and white.

I'm a perfect example. I wished we moved on from the Earley experiment after year 1 but clearly seeing resources and commitment to the program and external interest in the job or lack thereof meant another year was necessary gave him another run at it. And he has now earned the chance to keep at it with this season's results.

That said, a TON of the production leaves and pitching has to get massively improved immediately. So OK let's go again.

It's fine to ping pong the discussion on him even with the extremes because so far he's worthy of it. Stop trying to paint people into a corner. We're here for the talk.
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Bunk Moreland said:

dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,


This is, with all due respect, pure stupidity. While there are hand grenade posters who just want him gone, and there are the others who blindly want to feel like an Aggie elite by saying they're pro program no matter what until a change is made, there actually is good discussion in the middle on this board. Way more so on this board than basketball and of course football.

Don't try to make it black and white.

I'm a perfect example. I wished we moved on from the Earley experiment after year 1 but clearly seeing resources and commitment to the program and external interest in the job or lack thereof meant another year was necessary gave him another run at it. And he has now earned the chance to keep at it with this season's results.

That said, a TON of the production leaves and pitching has to get massively improved immediately. So OK let's go again.

It's fine to ping pong the discussion on him even with the extremes because so far he's worthy of it. Stop trying to paint people into a corner. We're here for the talk.

I have been accused of stupidity before but never pure stupidity. So that is a first. And a lot of talk bores me. Sorry. You either are or you aren't,
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Yeah yeah. Black and white. Good response. I'll help you out my good friend on here, you're too old for that ***** (the debating in the gray) And you always have my respect.
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what I dont understand is why everyone is ready to fire Earley after year two?

Scholss did much better in year one of the tenure to which i dont think anyone can disagree

They did the same in year two post season wise and Earley did better regular season wise and standing in the conference wise while getting a home regional vs being on the road

Then Schloss went out and transformed the entire lineup from '23 to '24 with exception of Jace

Earley has to do a lot of the same in '27 so until that happens I dont see a need to continue to hash out the Fire Earley crowd and the Keep Earley crowd...he isnt going anywhere after this season nor should he but he will have to transform a lineup and pitching rotation
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Bunk Moreland said:

Yeah yeah. Black and white. Good response. I'll help you out my good friend on here, you're too old for that ***** (the debating in the gray) And you always have my respect.

Same here. I am just tired of the debate over Earley. Crap or get off the pot.
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Wicked Good Ag said:

what I dont understand is why everyone is ready to fire Earley after year two?

Scholss did much better in year one of the tenure to which i dont think anyone can disagree

They did the same in year two post season wise and Earley did better regular season wise and standing in the conference wise while getting a home regional vs being on the road

Then Schloss went out and transformed the entire lineup from '23 to '24 with exception of Jace

Earley has to do a lot of the same in '27 so until that happens I dont see a need to continue to hash out the Fire Earley crowd and the Keep Earley crowd...he isnt going anywhere after this season nor should he but he will have to transform a lineup and pitching rotation


If you don't understand why then you haven't actually read the threads - it's been spelled out pretty explicitly.

It wasn't allowed to be discussed during the season and now you want it to not be discussed in the offseason?
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Wicked Good Ag said:

what I dont understand is why everyone is ready to fire Earley after year two?

Scholss did much better in year one of the tenure to which i dont think anyone can disagree

They did the same in year two post season wise and Earley did better regular season wise and standing in the conference wise while getting a home regional vs being on the road

Then Schloss went out and transformed the entire lineup from '23 to '24 with exception of Jace

Earley has to do a lot of the same in '27 so until that happens I dont see a need to continue to hash out the Fire Earley crowd and the Keep Earley crowd...he isnt going anywhere after this season nor should he but he will have to transform a lineup and pitching rotation

Because they wanted to fire him after year one and we didn't. It is pretty obvious,
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I'm with you there. I had my opinion last year but after this year given we hosted a regional, he has earned the right. And we all should give him that.
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AgRyan04 said:

Wicked Good Ag said:

what I dont understand is why everyone is ready to fire Earley after year two?

Scholss did much better in year one of the tenure to which i dont think anyone can disagree

They did the same in year two post season wise and Earley did better regular season wise and standing in the conference wise while getting a home regional vs being on the road

Then Schloss went out and transformed the entire lineup from '23 to '24 with exception of Jace

Earley has to do a lot of the same in '27 so until that happens I dont see a need to continue to hash out the Fire Earley crowd and the Keep Earley crowd...he isnt going anywhere after this season nor should he but he will have to transform a lineup and pitching rotation


If you don't understand why then you haven't actually read the threads - it's been spelled out pretty explicitly.

It wasn't allowed to be discussed during the season and now you want it to not be discussed in the offseason?

You are focused on year one and i get it but you are not giving him any credit for this season which I dont get

If we fired him after year one I get it ...we didnt no reason to fire after this season

Year 1 ok i get it
Year 2 no chance
Year 3 depends on how they do
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Bunk Moreland said:

dermdoc said:

AgRyan04 said:

TarponChaser said:

AgRyan04 said:

WhataMaroon88 said:

We have to identify the problems first. We had a top 5 offense so offense isn't it. Our starting pitching was downright atrocious at times. So try to fix that first… attempt made.

Manager moves don't always work out. Look at the Cubs. They grabbed Craig Counsel from the Brewers and nothing has changed. The Cubs look identical and are still
Getting beat like a rented mule by the Brewers.


The pitching problem was identified last off-season and was clearly not addressed appropriately


When 2 portal arms don't make it to campus because of off-field issues and it's too late to replace them plus 2 more studs who were expected to be big time contributors go down for TJ before the end of February and all 4 were expected to be 4 of your top 8-10 arms you start off in a hole.

Add in losing your ace the last month of the season and all the steps taken to address pitching in the offseason are rendered moot.


Even before the injuries, they didn't get the arms they needed. You know you're going to have injuries - thats part of the baseball post-2000, which is why it is so critical to stack up arm talent.

When portal arms don't make it to campus due to off-field problems, that is a huge issue. You either had bad eval on the players - or - you knew there was a risk and overlooked it. It doesn't absolve the fact that the pitching issues weren't resolved - because at the end of the day, they weren't resolved.

It would be much easier on everybody if we would just say Fire Earley or Keep Earley. It is that simple.
lots of wasted words,


This is, with all due respect, pure stupidity. While there are hand grenade posters who just want him gone, and there are the others who blindly want to feel like an Aggie elite by saying they're pro program no matter what until a change is made, there actually is good discussion in the middle on this board. Way more so on this board than basketball and of course football.

Don't try to make it black and white.

I'm a perfect example. I wished we moved on from the Earley experiment after year 1 but clearly seeing resources and commitment to the program and external interest in the job or lack thereof meant another year was necessary gave him another run at it. And he has now earned the chance to keep at it with this season's results.

That said, a TON of the production leaves and pitching has to get massively improved immediately. So OK let's go again.

It's fine to ping pong the discussion on him even with the extremes because so far he's worthy of it. Stop trying to paint people into a corner. We're here for the talk.

In 2023 we needed a C, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, SS, LF, RF, and DH. We got Appel, Burton, used Chestnut/Bell/Kent, Grahovac, Camarillo, Schott who eventually became DH and Sorrell was inserted, and Montgomery. Only Jace returned. I think we can retool the lineup. I agree with Brauny that hitters want to play for Earley and in our hitters friendly ballpark. The question is pitching and we'll find out more soon.
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I'm in the keepem camp Doc
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I'm in the continued improvement camp.

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