a.froman said:

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Luke The Drifter said:

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a.froman said:

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Luke The Drifter said:

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Most of y'all know that my son in law is a pitcher in the Diamondbacks organization. Anyway, he LOVES Enright and he believes we got a stud for a pitching coach. The son in law also played for Pennington at DBU and Penny is another of his favorites. SIL believes Enright and Penny are compatible pitching/fielding coaches. His only concern is that Enright has never had to recruit before, but thinks he'll adapt quickly.

Just his 2 cents worth. You can take it or leave it - your choice.

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Can your son in law explain then why Enright wasn't that successful at the Angels?

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Maybe the Angels drafted crappy pitchers or refused to spend money on decent pitching free agents. I don't follow the Angels closely enough to know (neither does he), so I have no idea the circumstances around what went right or wrong when Enright was with the Angels.

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So it goes back to Jimmy's and Joe's. Got it, which is my stance all along. Now if he can come in and bring in talent then he will be a success. If we can't then he will hit the road

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Every single guy on the staff has the arm talent to have had us in Omaha. What was lacking was the 6" between the ears.

We all lost our minds at the number of times some of our guys would throw an 0-2 cement mixer slider that got hammered. Dudes could have thrown 2 nasty sliders to get ahead and then fail to execute the 3rd one. That's mental.

Even that way in the majors. Go back to 2017 when Lance McCullers threw like 24 curveballs in a row in game 7 of the ALCS to retire 6 straight Yankees. They knew it was coming and still couldn't hit it. He was an absolute dog and executed those pitches because he was mentally locked in.

We have to have that mental toughness to execute the pitches and game plan.

Here's my favorite discussion of his... Embraces the data/metrics but isn't a slave to it ..

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I've gone through this experience in 2021 and 2022 as an organization with the Diamondbacks. … There were times that we chased the TrackMan. There were times that we chased the pitch shaping and pitch design and how cool that pitch looked on a TrackMan. "Oh my gosh, it has 20 inches of sweep. Oh my gosh, it has 22 inches of ride."

But it was never a strike and it was breaking out of hand. And eventually, a hitter tells you if it's a good pitch or not. Your ultimate feedback is that strike zone. And I think that was what was forgotten a little bit. It's not new school. It's not old school. It's baseball. New school and all the tech, you need it. There's so many different ways that you can look through the pitch data to help with usage to help with pitch location and to help the pitch design. But if you forget that you're out there to get the batter out, you're behind the eight ball.

I think that's what (people) see as old school. No data, you go out there blind and you just go grab your balls and go get them. There's an aspect to that, but you're also extremely dumb if you don't use TrackMan and Edgertronic and all the resources that are given to you.

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Ag1188 said:

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jkag89 said:

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Were you blown away by Max Weiner's resume when POS hired him? On paper it was not all that impressive. There was some buzz around him in the Seattle system but what does the average baseball fan know about roving minor league pitching coaches.

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Weiner was pretty highly recommended. And he had proven results. And if you googled him, there were numerous articles praising his work with the Mariners.

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my biggest beef with Kelly was that we knew we were down 4 arms we expected to be big contributors before the end of February

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"down 4 arms".. Eh, only 2 were proven if you count Sims. The rest were just hopefuls like the rest of our healthy bullpen who ended up sucking.

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McCoy & Stewart were proven arms who got hurt in January/February that were expected to be big time contributor. Then add in the FAU transfer who turned out to be a head case and the Baylor transfer who ended up at McClellan because of legal issues.

Sdao & Moss showed the physical stuff but the mental toughness was lacking.

Sean98 said:

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Here's my favorite discussion of his... Embraces the data/metrics but isn't a slave to it ..

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I've gone through this experience in 2021 and 2022 as an organization with the Diamondbacks. … There were times that we chased the TrackMan. There were times that we chased the pitch shaping and pitch design and how cool that pitch looked on a TrackMan. "Oh my gosh, it has 20 inches of sweep. Oh my gosh, it has 22 inches of ride."

But it was never a strike and it was breaking out of hand. And eventually, a hitter tells you if it's a good pitch or not. Your ultimate feedback is that strike zone. And I think that was what was forgotten a little bit. It's not new school. It's not old school. It's baseball. New school and all the tech, you need it. There's so many different ways that you can look through the pitch data to help with usage to help with pitch location and to help the pitch design. But if you forget that you're out there to get the batter out, you're behind the eight ball.

I think that's what (people) see as old school. No data, you go out there blind and you just go grab your balls and go get them. There's an aspect to that, but you're also extremely dumb if you don't use TrackMan and Edgertronic and all the resources that are given to you.

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I really like that.