Critical condition Dallas County patients in their 20s and 30s
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Last: 6 yr ago by PJYoung
The no underlying conditions part is surprising.
Just because statistics say young people are less likely to get a severe case of it, doesn't mean they are immune.
Wonder if they vape and that is causing issues. Or maybe they're just unlucky.
I saw that 50% of the patients in intensive care in Italy were under the age of 60. Obviously the death rates are lower, but that doesn't make young people immune from being in bad shape.
Article with the same info from France:
https://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-french-coronavirus-intensive-care-patients-are-under-60-2020-3
Article with the same info from France:
https://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-french-coronavirus-intensive-care-patients-are-under-60-2020-3
98Ag99Grad said:
Wonder if they vape and that is causing issues. Or maybe they're just unlucky.
It definitely would be great to have more background information with these type of patients. Not sure if that will be privacy-breaching though.
I was wondering this, too. Of course young people aren't immune and some will get severely sick and die, but so many young people vape or smoke nowadays. Can't go anywhere without seeing plumes of smoke floating away from people.
I'd say that a tweet from a local Dallas news reporter is likely good information.
Belton Ag said:
Just a warning for people, the OP is one of the biggest panic-mongers when it comes to COVID-19. The best policy when it comes to any info he shares is trust but verify.
Point towards any posts that are not fact based and I'll be glad to delete.
I'm sorry this is an extreme situation. I've posted good news as well.
EDIT: I was posting last night that yesterday was the FIRST time I've felt better about this since 2 months ago when I first started following it (too) closely. Due to the United States getting serious about shutting everything down for at least 2 weeks and Italy's #s seeming to start to level off after locking things down there.
Posted on the Dallas Morning News as well.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/17/tarrant-countys-6th-coronavirus-patient-is-apparent-case-of-community-spread/
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/17/tarrant-countys-6th-coronavirus-patient-is-apparent-case-of-community-spread/
WFAA reporting the same thing. Rather than discounting posters that bring bad news as being a panic-monger, I wish more posters would verify for themselves if the post is true.PJYoung said:Belton Ag said:
Just a warning for people, the OP is one of the biggest panic-mongers when it comes to COVID-19. The best policy when it comes to any info he shares is trust but verify.
Point towards any posts that are not fact based and I'll be glad to delete.
I'm sorry this is an extreme situation. I've posted good news as well.
Wish we knew where in Dallas they live and work
Explain?Johnny2Fan said:
Panic tweet.
The last 24 hours, there have been a lot of worldwide reports on younger critical patients. I think the goal is to get younger people to take this seriously, or panic mongering I suppose.
Anyone that knows basic math should understand some young get very sick, but it will still be very few.
Anyone that knows basic math should understand some young get very sick, but it will still be very few.
Fitch said:
Posted on the Dallas Morning News as well.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/17/tarrant-countys-6th-coronavirus-patient-is-apparent-case-of-community-spread/
I didnt see anything stating they had no underlying health conditions and it appears the original tweet was deleted.
Gumby said:Fitch said:
Posted on the Dallas Morning News as well.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/17/tarrant-countys-6th-coronavirus-patient-is-apparent-case-of-community-spread/
I didnt see anything stating they had no underlying health conditions and it appears the original tweet was deleted.
Original string of tweets are still there.
In a socialized medicine system, like Italy, they often won't provide care for patients with multiple comorbid conditions. Many of them might just get sent home to die.
Northern Italy, because their healthcare system was overwhelmed, had to allow many people to die because they didnt have the resources to save everyone. Has nothing to do with a "socialized medicine system'....Zulu451 said:
In a socialized medicine system, like Italy, they often won't provide care for patients with multiple comorbid conditions. Many of them might just get sent home to die.
Pretty sure that "letting people die" crap isn't true.
There was an Italian doctor interviewed on the NYT's Daily Podcast. He said that they are having to decide who gets the ventilators and who doesn't since his hospital is overwhelmed with cases. He said there are two factors that determine it --
1. What is their chance of living, based on their conditions? This is relatively well defined based on their data.
2. What is their chance of improving under ICU? This, they currently don't know, and are trying to determine.
1. What is their chance of living, based on their conditions? This is relatively well defined based on their data.
2. What is their chance of improving under ICU? This, they currently don't know, and are trying to determine.
HotardAg07 said:
There was an Italian doctor interviewed on the NYT's Daily Podcast. He said that they are having to decide who gets the ventilators and who doesn't since his hospital is overwhelmed with cases. He said there are two factors that determine it --
1. What is their chance of living, based on their conditions? This is relatively well defined based on their data.
2. What is their chance of improving under ICU? This, they currently don't know, and are trying to determine.
I actually saw something on YouTube, some expert from Italy, saying it was bs. Whatever.
I guess you don't understand how triage works... Patients with the highest rate of success get treatment.Jet Black said:
Pretty sure that "letting people die" crap isn't true.
hatchback said:Gumby said:Fitch said:
Posted on the Dallas Morning News as well.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/03/17/tarrant-countys-6th-coronavirus-patient-is-apparent-case-of-community-spread/
I didnt see anything stating they had no underlying health conditions and it appears the original tweet was deleted.
Original string of tweets are still there.
The Dallas News article did not state they had no underlying health condition. I would be surprised if this reporter got access to that info. Pretty sure that would violate HIPAA.
Quote:
I actually saw something on YouTube, some expert from Italy, saying it was bs.
Seems legit.
So they are or aren't in critical condition with no underlying conditions? If this is not true or can't be confirmed the title needs to change or delete the thread. Nobody needs more negative misinformation right now.
JesusQuintana said:
So they are or aren't in critical condition with no underlying conditions? If this is not true or can't be confirmed the title needs to change or delete the thread. Nobody needs more negative misinformation right now.
Until this reporter with Channel 4 Fox News in Dallas deletes her tweet or issues an update about false information I am going to assume it's true like she reported it.
The DMN still has it up:
Quote:
Updated at 5:10 p.m.: Revised throughout with additional information.
Dallas County reported nine more COVID-19 cases Tuesday morning, bringing its total to 28.
The new patients are two women in their 20s, a man in his 30s, a man and a woman in their 40s, two women in their 50s, a man in his 60s and a woman in her 70s.
Five of the patients were hospitalized, including three in critical-care units, health officials said. The other four were self-isolating.
The three in critical care are in their 20s, 30s and 60s, the county said Tuesday afternoon.
SoupNazi2001 said:Johnny2Fan said:
Panic tweet.
Yes they changed it to she is in the hospital but not in critical condition.
What are you referring to.
Haven't seen anything from an official source that they did not have pre-existing conditions.
Thanks for clarifying
HotardAg07 said:
There was an Italian doctor interviewed on the NYT's Daily Podcast. He said that they are having to decide who gets the ventilators and who doesn't since his hospital is overwhelmed with cases. He said there are two factors that determine it --
1. What is their chance of living, based on their conditions? This is relatively well defined based on their data.
2. What is their chance of improving under ICU? This, they currently don't know, and are trying to determine.
That's just triage...any hospital in the US will do the same thing if they have X people needing something they have less than X of.
Trying to get the 20-30 yr olds to respect the social distancing ...word is many of them don't care .. plus it's St Patrick's day today... they all want the green beer !
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