IDK about you - but CDC guidelines are grey re how long to wear one N-95. We are currently using them for 12 hrs then disposing. But - if you have no more? Currently 12 COVID isolated pts but none confirmed + yest.

Marcus Aurelius said:

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IDK about you - but CDC guidelines are grey re how long to wear one N-95. We are currently using them for 12 hrs then disposing. But - if you have no more? Currently 12 COVID isolated pts but none confirmed + yest.

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we've had one positive outpatient case, borderline o2 requirement,

I am asking but not forcing my staff(out of fear I guess) to use the same n95 for the shift. Voluntary compliance is not working out.

Our grandson is a college senior and works nights, weekends, and holidays as a Scribe in an emergency room. (He is applying to med school.). Last week someone stole their entire supply of masks.

I had some in case of emergency dental care needs and someone stole them last night out my office.

Same in a central Texas Hospital. Cardiology department was raided overnight and all PPE is gone.

yep

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Inside job?

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I would think so. My wife and I were at a hospital in Austin at 5 AM on Monday morning and there was plenty of security.

Why are mask ineffective outside of a medical setting?

Disclaimer: I don't own any masks - just curious.

Ah thanks for the answer. I saw this first hand yesterday now that you mention it.

This guy at Kroger was wearing gloves and a mask but he was also rubbing his eyes so kind of pointless protective measures.

There should be swift and maximal justice for those two. Make it an example to warn others.

Marcus Aurelius said:

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IDK about you - but CDC guidelines are grey re how long to wear one N-95. We are currently using them for 12 hrs then disposing. But - if you have no more? Currently 12 COVID isolated pts but none confirmed + yest.

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Is there anyway to sterilize them for reuse? Spray alcohol, UV, anything like that? I know something like that would not be CDC approved, but in a pinch there has to be a way to make something like those masks more than one time use in emergency situations

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Marcus Aurelius said:

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IDK about you - but CDC guidelines are grey re how long to wear one N-95. We are currently using them for 12 hrs then disposing. But - if you have no more? Currently 12 COVID isolated pts but none confirmed + yest.

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Is there anyway to sterilize them for reuse? Spray alcohol, UV, anything like that? I know something like that would not be CDC approved, but in a pinch there has to be a way to make something like those masks more than one time use in emergency situations

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once they get wet they are done. I think keeping it one for the shift, assuming you don't touch the front of the mask, makes the most sense. Not that that's easy to do.

Stockpiling Supplies for the Next Influenza Pandemic; 2009 study

interesting to look at "Table 5. Formulas, prioritization, and example calculations of supplies for a 1918-like influenza pandemic" which calculates/estimates how many N95 respirators, ventilators etc. Really interesting study and a brilliant idea if something like this happens. I assume the government never followed through with the prep/stockpile idea?

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Stockpiling Supplies for the Next Influenza Pandemic; 2009 study

interesting to look at "Table 5. Formulas, prioritization, and example calculations of supplies for a 1918-like influenza pandemic" which calculates/estimates how many N95 respirators, ventilators etc. Really interesting study and a brilliant idea if something like this happens. I assume the government never followed through with the prep/stockpile idea?

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I'm pretty sure that stuff expires which would add a ton to the cost.

Good luck trying to get the government to keep paying for something that's not needed immediately year after year.

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Tabasco said:

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Stockpiling Supplies for the Next Influenza Pandemic; 2009 study

interesting to look at "Table 5. Formulas, prioritization, and example calculations of supplies for a 1918-like influenza pandemic" which calculates/estimates how many N95 respirators, ventilators etc. Really interesting study and a brilliant idea if something like this happens. I assume the government never followed through with the prep/stockpile idea?

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I'm pretty sure that stuff expires which would add a ton to the cost.

Good luck trying to get the government to keep paying for something that's not needed immediately year after year.

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They talked about that some:

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Many items purchased for the cache had expiration dates. Although most items had multiple-year shelf lives, some shelf lives were as short as 1 year. The variability of manufacturer-ascribed expiration dates and other reasons for supply rotation led to the recognition that the cache would become a dynamic component of medical system supplies. Items would need to be inspected regularly and rotated through the storage facility on a regular basis. To meet this need, a human resource commitment of 1 full-time employee equivalent would be necessary for logistics management of the inventory. Duties of this person would include inspecting the inventory, assisting with incoming and outgoing deliveries, rotating items into the routinely used supplies of the medical system to ensure use before expiration, and prodding physical security for the inventory. This person would also be charged with developing and maintaining a plan for transportation and deployment of the inventory in the event of a pandemic. In addition, each medical facility would also be required to provide an employee to help manage the inventory and who would report to the cache in the event of a pandemic.

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Back-ordered till June. Caught on camera and 2 perps in custody. But - too late. They sold them all to public already. Disastrous.

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Where did this happen? If in Philly, Fort Worth, or San Antonio they would just issue a ticket and release them. They aren't taking nonviolent offenders to jail.

Birmingham

Singapore Death Penalty

How much do they cost you guys and have you come up with a faster source?

I'm not sure how much we're taking about, but I assume since two guys made off with the entire stock that it wasn't enough. As a supply chain guy, I find a lot of blame for the outages should fall on the hospitals themselves for not having a much larger stock on hand. Just in time ordering isn't for critical items. What would they have done if this thing would have blown up worse in the beginning? They would've never had a chance. This thing is going to change a lot of things about the way we do business and life.