Food delivery

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rononeill
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If we're supposed to be avoiding groups, sheltering in place, etc.; doesn't grocery delivery, food delivery, take out, seem to contradict this strategy? If we're worried about community spread, does this logic seem disingenuous or inconsistent?
Rapier108
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Italy's super spreader was a food delivery person.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
J.P. 03
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AG
Yes, I agree with you, but if the only alternative was to tell everyone they had 24 hours to acquire all the food they could possibly need for the next 14 days because all the grocery stores were about to close, I think it's a risk we all have to take.
spieg12
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I think the idea is that one infected person in a room or restaurant of 200 people will infect many before symptoms make them realize they need to stay home.

One guy delivering food to one residence at a time would infect far fewer before he realizes he needs to stay home.
rononeill
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I'm thinking more about food prep risk. On a personal level, if my daughter shouldn't be playing w her friend next door, how do I get comfortable with picking up food from a restaurant where the staff is doing who knows what in their own home environment. If we're worried about community spread, there seems to be a huge (relative) risk in keeping these programs active. Don't get me wrong, I'm trying not to be paranoid- this just seems to be grossly inconsistent.
expresswrittenconsent
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It doesn't seem inconsistent to me but you also aren't required to order food from restaurants. If you have these extra concerns cook your own meals.
chigger
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Honestly I've thought the exact same thing. I don't know what the answer is.
rononeill
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I can't get my head around it, but I'd love to know why folks think it isn't a strategic contradiction.
lazuras_dc
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I agree with you. I'm super wary. Who knows what the delivery guy or even food preppers are feeling or doing or how their hygiene is for $8/hr.

Especially multiple deliveries you have the potential to be hitting multiple houses and knocking on doors , taking tips etc.
lunchbox
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rononeill said:

I can't get my head around it, but I'd love to know why folks think it isn't a strategic contradiction.
I agree - we decided to purchase a couple of GCs from local places we frequent rather than order food.
Rapier108
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J.P. 03 said:

Yes, I agree with you, but if the only alternative was to tell everyone they had 24 hours to acquire all the food they could possibly need for the next 14 days because all the grocery stores were about to close, I think it's a risk we all have to take.
Even in Italy, France, and Spain they have not closed grocery stores. They might put limits on when people can shop, or how many can go in, but they're not going to cut off the food supply to the entire nation. Doing that would be an almost instantaneous and complete breakdown of society.

This is about restaurants.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
tio
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I had some additional groceries delivered today from H-E-B. I either wiped down or removed everything from their packaging and repackaged in ziplock or containers where possible and washed fruits/veggies. Then washed my hands afterwards. I did the same thing for when I went to H-E-B myself last Friday.

Probably overkill but with as fast as everything is being restocked it's all been touched within 24 hours
NASAg03
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I'm more concerned about the people preparing the food. You know they need money more than most and are going to hide whatever symptoms they have to make the minimum wage. They don't get unemployment, they don't have insurance, and aren't documented.

One sick person that DGAF about how they feel goes to work, makes food for 100+ people / day, for 15 days during this quarantine.

Yeah seems way more of an concern than that same person interacting within 6' of 10 people.
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
TexasAggie008
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AG
At some point the risk level is in the same territory as "you could have a head on collision on the way to work"; where technically it's true, but anyone who spends even 2 seconds a day dwelling on it probably needs help....
NASAg03
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https://www.fsai.ie/faq/coronavirus.html

"However, it is possible that infected food workers and/or consumers could introduce the virus to food, by coughing and sneezing, or through hand contact. It is therefore important that they strictly follow good personal hygiene practices. Customers and food businesses are expected to behave in a hygienic manner and food business are obliged to monitor such displays."

"Current information suggests that the virus may survive a few hours, or even days, on certain surfaces."

Riiiight. #FlattenTheCurve
Mike Shaw - Class of '03
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