How is it that China just stopped having new cases.

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Tmoneyag99
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Excuse me while I exercise my skepticism.


A country of 1 billion people all cramed to 25% of their land mass does not just stop at 81k illnesses.


How many people do you think have died in their own homes and remain un-counted?


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Tmoneyag99 said:

Excuse me while I exercise my skepticism.


A country of 1 billion people all cramed to 25% of their land mass does not just stop at 81k illnesses.


How many people do you think have died in their own homes and remain un-counted?



On another thread, someone posted a twitter that said from Jan-March (and admitted it was not complete data for Feb. and March) the 2 China cwll phone providers had a 15mm decline in customers.
if that is true, then comes the question of.... of those 15 million, how many died from the virus and how many died from purging of undesirables.

15mm would explain the extremes China went to with lockdowns etc. that would be close to %1 of their population.

Problem is, we may never know because China lies.
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When they kicked out all members of non-Chinese media, it was obvious this was where they were headed

The state-run media is going further than lying about no new cases. They are pushing the idea that China is now the global leader who can assist other countries in this.
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I have the same question, how can such a "deadly virus" just all of a sudden go away with no new cases?

A virus of this magnitude that the world is deathly afraid of just quit making people sick.
TxAG#2011
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They lockdowned a 100 million people. They setup road blockades with mandatory screenings everywhere. What we are doing isn't even coming close.
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hoodlum98 said:

I have the same question, how can such a "deadly virus" just all of a sudden go away with no new cases?

A virus of this magnitude that the world is deathly afraid of just quit making people sick.
Exactly. I would expect to see a downward progression as people got better, fewer people got infected or more people were immune.




I'm praying that vaccine comes on line soon.
Seabreeze
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Talked to English teacher i know who is living/working there last night. She says things are pretty much back to normal, but the schools will be out for another 4 weeks then will resume. Said the government has pretty much just made the decision to let the virus pass on thru that closing up everything wont prevent the spread of the virus.
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Don't ever trust anything coming out of China.
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Bruce Almighty
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They completely shut everything down in a way that will never happen here. There are videos of homes being welded shut. If the numbers are really true (and that's doubtful), the virus is just going to comeback once they relax restrictions. The same for South Korea. Those countries aren't developing any kind of herd immunity.
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They are lying.
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smango05 said:

They are lying.
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We're going to have a serious overhaul with international travel and testing. Kinda like 9-11. We can't trust foreign countries or MSM. We're back to the Stone Age anyway so just worry about the dinosaurs coming back.
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Bruce Almighty said:

They completely shut everything down in a way that will never happen here. There are videos of homes being welded shut. If the numbers are really true (and that's doubtful), the virus is just going to comeback once they relax restrictions. The same for South Korea. Those countries aren't developing any kind of herd immunity.
I totally agree.

I think extreme social distancing is necessary so that we don't overwhelm our hospitals.

I also think that we need some temporary hospitals set up for people that aren't covid positive.

Or have a destination for covid and non-covid patients.

Covid or Respiratory emergency go to hospital A.

All others go to Hospital B.
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Tmoneyag99 said:

Excuse me while I exercise my skepticism.


A country of 1 billion people all cramed to 25% of their land mass does not just stop at 81k illnesses.


How many people do you think have died in their own homes and remain un-counted?



It's true because the Chinese Communist Party says it's true.

If their lips are moving.............
Seabreeze
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How many people here in the states have or had it that will never be accounted for? Not every case results in hospitalization or death. Most people will never have symptoms or dismiss them as allergies or the common cold.
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TxAG#2011 said:

They lockdowned a 100 million people. They setup road blockades with mandatory screenings everywhere. What we are doing isn't even coming close.
But the virus didn't just die. Their factories are open for business, which means it's no longer a complete lockdown.
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How the hell do you associate in South Korea with China? Are you that stupid?? They are completely different countries where one is run by communist and one is not. First of all, South Korea doesn't say they have zero new cases. They seem to have flattened the curve however. If you think South Korea is lying, there are plenty of articles/videos, etc to show what they are doing is working.
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Who is saying South Korea is lying?
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China is lying, they are still having people line up at hospitals and they are quarantined. They are making those work who can to get the economy again. The fact they have a more dense and more population than Italy yet have fewer deaths proves they lied. China has a population over 22 times larger than Italy with worse living conditions. I would say at a minimum they have 1.5 million infected and over 100,000 dead, honestly it may be higher since I do not think 100,000 is the true number. I do not think China cares enough about its citizens to do anything about 100,000 dying.

5 million people in the Wuhan district left Wuhan before they locked it down and you see what happened around the globe with this happening.
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Seabreeze said:

How many people here in the states have or had it that will never be accounted for? Not every case results in hospitalization or death. Most people will never have symptoms or dismiss them as allergies or the common cold.
That still doesn't account for a dead stop.

I would expect a flattening or deceleration. The fact of the matter remains X% of your population is going to get the disease. X% of the population is going to die and X% will be hospitalized but recover.


You cannot tell me that they have just all the sudden stopped 1 billion people from getting the disease. Italy has surpassed their death count. Italy has a fraction of OUR population. We're going to surpass Italy strictly because of statistics.


No their numbers are not justified by the math. They haven't even come close to reaching enough herd immunity to justify .000081% of their population catching this. That doesn't even justify hospitalization numbers. They literally reported only 46 new cases yesterday.

There is absolutely nothing reliable about their numbers. If China's numbers were representative of what happens after strict quarantine measures Italy's numbers would have been at worst 8,000. Remember, at one point China was hiding this and claiming that there was no human to human transmission. They had a whistle blower doctor that.


I think they know they F*d up and new that they had to let the world know so we could act. I think that they knew if they didn't speak up about their lack of control over the situation then they were about to be blow out of the water.

Can you imagine if the whole world caught this and China reported nothing and kept trying to sweep it under the rug? You're talking about leaders of about 5 billion people ready to blow their SH!% away.

You're also talking about potentially killing 15 milion people without addressing it and hiding it.... You can damned well believe there would be a revolt supported by European and American countries.



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Someone on my team is Chinese and has a sister who is a doctor and was working in one of the temporary hospitals that is in the process of being demolished. She confirmed that they aren't seeing enough new cases to be worth noting. Anecdotal but it is info on the ground that I trust which does mirror the information coming from the commies.
Seabreeze
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See my post above about my school teacher friend living there. Sounds like they just stopped caring to report any thing or new numbers, just treat the sick and move on with life.
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TxAG#2011 said:

They lockdowned a 100 million people. They setup road blockades with mandatory screenings everywhere. What we are doing isn't even coming close.


Got news for you buddy, a road block and a quarantine doesn't get rid of a virus, it just delays it to when you open everything back up again
Tmoneyag99
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Seabreeze said:

See my post above about my school teacher friend living there. Sounds like they just stopped caring to report any thing or new numbers, just treat the sick and move on with life.
And so now all the sudden their hospitals aren't being overwhelmed to the point of collapse?

Again, does not make sense. One anecdotal response does not resolve the math.
TxAG#2011
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rgag12 said:

TxAG#2011 said:

They lockdowned a 100 million people. They setup road blockades with mandatory screenings everywhere. What we are doing isn't even coming close.


Got news for you buddy, a road block and a quarantine doesn't get rid of a virus, it just delays it to when you open everything back up again
Thanks buddy, but that doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
Bruce Almighty
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It's a bio weapon that they unleashed. They have the cure and they sacrificed a few thousand to demolish the world economies.
Fat Bib Fortuna
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Maybe they're all dead and/or zombies.
Seabreeze
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Sorry i cant help, good luck with your quest.
Complete Idiot
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I can believe China is lying and although they were truthful about the quick 80K reports and extreme 3K plus deaths, they suddenly decided to lie at some point. It's not beyond belief, but it seems doubtful.

I can also believe China tested everyone who ever came in contact with anyone confirmed sick, and absolutely locked down anyone who tested positive. Locked down completely, for a long time. That is also believable, and seems possible.

I do note that Apple decided to reopen all their stores in China. I don't think they'd do that if they believed everyone was sick and dying, or 15 million people were killed in some type of purging.

And as mentioned, South Korea is another good data point.
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