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MARCH 23 9:48 a.m. Despite speculation and rumors, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo says she will not issue a "shelter-in-place" or "stay-at-home" order at this time. Hidalgo also says the term "shelter in place" is not the correct term for the Houston-area community. That term, she says, is typically reserved for hurricanes, active shooter drills, etc. She says local officials, from both the county and the City of Houston, continue to evaluate the needs of the Houston area and may provide an update later in the day Monday with "next steps" for our community.
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From what she said, I expect a limited shelter in place in the next 24 hours.
Not what I expected, but the right decision nonetheless.
This was noting more than a favor to Turner since he said on Friday there was no lockdown coming.
Can we point to a single example anywhere on the planet where delaying action has made things better? Serious question.
ScottBowen said:
Not what I expected, but the right decision nonetheless.
How can you state that with such confidence based on what we know now?
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94chem said:
Can we point to a single example anywhere on the planet where delaying action has made things better? Serious question.
If the data is solid you don't delay.
Not implementing for the entire state is common sense. Not implementing in the largest city in the state, where things can spiral out of control very quickly, that's downright irresponsible. The second you say "oh nows the time" it's already too late.
The argument against it is that we are effectively there already. If what you are doing is working , then you've done enough. We won't see the effects on spread for a week or two, but I can tell you the city feels pretty shut down. She mentioned in her presser how pleased they were with compliance so far.
Shagga said:Wow. This is completely unexpected - common sense displayed.Quote:
MARCH 23 9:48 a.m. Despite speculation and rumors, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo says she will not issue a "shelter-in-place" or "stay-at-home" order at this time. Hidalgo also says the term "shelter in place" is not the correct term for the Houston-area community. That term, she says, is typically reserved for hurricanes, active shooter drills, etc. She says local officials, from both the county and the City of Houston, continue to evaluate the needs of the Houston area and may provide an update later in the day Monday with "next steps" for our community.
Yeah, she's going to rename shelter in place, probably later today.
Thats useful
Shagga said:Wow. This is completely unexpected - common sense displayed.Quote:
MARCH 23 9:48 a.m. Despite speculation and rumors, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo says she will not issue a "shelter-in-place" or "stay-at-home" order at this time. Hidalgo also says the term "shelter in place" is not the correct term for the Houston-area community. That term, she says, is typically reserved for hurricanes, active shooter drills, etc. She says local officials, from both the county and the City of Houston, continue to evaluate the needs of the Houston area and may provide an update later in the day Monday with "next steps" for our community.
Wrong... Every major and minor city in Texas should be sheltering in place yesterday. Waco has started to see the first really sick people from this after getting our first confirmed cases about a week ago.
I can tell you from experience that this disease is a different animal. It will flat kill anybody with poor ling reserve or function.
Waco actually had the good sense to order a shelter-in-place this morning going into effect at midnight. Other cities would do well to do this before the bad cases start showing up in ERs.
Don't fool yourself. This stuff is everywhere and it looks and acts differently from anything I have ever seen.
I was cautious but not really scared until I saw the first people really sick from this. I am scared now
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I cant wait to hear what the new name is for Houstons version of shelter and place
So exciting!
So exciting!
Couple of more days and the shelter in place resisters will see the lightBadace52 said:Shagga said:Wow. This is completely unexpected - common sense displayed.Quote:
MARCH 23 9:48 a.m. Despite speculation and rumors, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo says she will not issue a "shelter-in-place" or "stay-at-home" order at this time. Hidalgo also says the term "shelter in place" is not the correct term for the Houston-area community. That term, she says, is typically reserved for hurricanes, active shooter drills, etc. She says local officials, from both the county and the City of Houston, continue to evaluate the needs of the Houston area and may provide an update later in the day Monday with "next steps" for our community.
Wrong... Every major and minor city in Texas should be sheltering in place yesterday. Waco has started to see the first really sick people from this after getting our first confirmed cases about a week ago.
I can tell you from experience that this disease is a different animal. It will flat kill anybody with poor ling reserve or function.
Waco actually had the good sense to order a shelter-in-place this morning going into effect at midnight. Other cities would do well to do this before the bad cases start showing up in ERs.
Don't fool yourself. This stuff is everywhere and it looks and acts differently from anything I have ever seen.
I was cautious but not really scared until I saw the first people really sick from this. I am scared now
We are already sheltering in place. No working unless WFH. No bars, theaters, restaurants, gyms or anything else no a necessity open. Social distancing. No sports, school or any gatherings. If that isn't shelter in place, I don't know what is.
Everything else must continue as before. We still need everything essential to be generated as always. farmers, manufacturing, trucking, shipping. The world just doesn't stop because of this virus.
Everything else must continue as before. We still need everything essential to be generated as always. farmers, manufacturing, trucking, shipping. The world just doesn't stop because of this virus.
jamey said:
I cant wait to hear what the new name is for Houstons version of shelter and place
So exciting!
"Shunker down!"
jamey said:
I cant wait to hear what the new name is for Houstons version of shelter and place
So exciting!
Edit: Didn't like bobby's horns up in the first pic and purple drank is much more fitting.....
If it turns out to be anything like Brazos County, then it's no big issue, as it's exactly the sort of restrictions I'm already following.jamey said:Shagga said:Wow. This is completely unexpected - common sense displayed.Quote:
MARCH 23 9:48 a.m. Despite speculation and rumors, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo says she will not issue a "shelter-in-place" or "stay-at-home" order at this time. Hidalgo also says the term "shelter in place" is not the correct term for the Houston-area community. That term, she says, is typically reserved for hurricanes, active shooter drills, etc. She says local officials, from both the county and the City of Houston, continue to evaluate the needs of the Houston area and may provide an update later in the day Monday with "next steps" for our community.
Yeah, she's going to rename shelter in place, probably later today.
Thats useful
WHAT DOES SHELTER IN PLACE MEAN?
A shelter-in-place is NOT a lockdown. It's an order that citizens conduct only essential business and activities until the spread of COVID-19 is contained.
If you have already been following CDC guidelines and the orders from the state of Texas, then it's likely little will change for you as a result of this new order.
The idea behind a shelter-in-place is to reduce unnecessary interaction between individuals and groups of people.
Brazos County's shelter-in-place does not include a curfew.
WHAT YOU CAN DO
You can still go outside and walk, run, ride a bicycle and exercise. You are strongly encouraged to keep a minimum distance of at least six feet between you and others around you.
You can use essential services and businesses like the grocery store, pharmacy, healthcare facilities, and convenience stores. Essential services may also include auto shops, hardware stores, banks, gas stations, laundromats, dry cleaners, and child care facilities. These are all examples but not a complete list of essential businesses. Remember to keep a safe distance between you and others at these locations.
You can still go to restaurants for take-out, drive-thru, curbside services, and deliveries.
You can still care for a family member or friend.
You can still go to medical appointments after checking with your healthcare provider first.
WHAT YOU SHALL NOT DO
Do not go to work unless you are providing an essential service. Work at home if you can.
Do not visit friends and family if there is no urgent need or reason to do so.
Do not get closer than six feet away from others when you go out.
Shagga said:Wow. This is completely unexpected - common sense displayed.Quote:
MARCH 23 9:48 a.m. Despite speculation and rumors, Harris County Judge Lina Hidalgo says she will not issue a "shelter-in-place" or "stay-at-home" order at this time. Hidalgo also says the term "shelter in place" is not the correct term for the Houston-area community. That term, she says, is typically reserved for hurricanes, active shooter drills, etc. She says local officials, from both the county and the City of Houston, continue to evaluate the needs of the Houston area and may provide an update later in the day Monday with "next steps" for our community.
Common sense = agrees with me.
94chem said:
Can we point to a single example anywhere on the planet where delaying action has made things better? Serious question.
Asked this 8 days ago. Still haven't gotten any examples.
Does anyone know why the reported number of cases for Harris County are often reported not including the totals for Houston? That is the only county in Texas that I have seen like that
There is no scenario where waiting helps. The problem is no one wants to implement financially painful policies until the virus can be seen present in the community. But this virus spreads asymptomatically and the effects of the disease take time to present themselves in positive patients. So that leaves a lot of folks looking at the numbers, already terribly undercounted by testing limitations, to push for keeping everything open and waiting. By the time it gets visibly bad enough for elected leaders to make these calls, the virus has already spread widely. We just won't truly see the effects of that spread for several weeks. Unfortunately it's a lethal combination.
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