There is no way we are all sheltering in place until September and there are multiple experts in this field that have recommended and presented scenarios for a much quicker return to normalcy.austinaggie2003 said:Yes. If I was a betting man, then I bet that this is the new normal until at least Labor Day weekend.Palovic said:
Schools shut down, restaurants close their dining rooms and lay off half their seasonal staff, businesses are all work from home, we all do drive up testing, public services optimize staff or cut half?
This controlled normal?
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I'm interested in reading/watching those experts if you have them handy.
Thanks!
Thanks!
"Should prevent" is not very definitive for such a dire action. I don't agree with Yukon's delivery but his message is somewhat correct. Do your own research and hear all sides and get a true understanding of the virus and what it is.
If you think that social distancing is the only solution after all of this, then that is your opinion and I will respect it.
I personally do not subscribe to that concept for the l long term, but it will definately help today with the hospital overload since it is novel and we are learning more everyday on how to treat it and even effectively diagnosis and test for it. We make exponential progress everyday combating this novel virus and we will reflect on these interesting weeks/months and learn how to better react in the future as there will be more viruses in the future that will be novel.
If you think that social distancing is the only solution after all of this, then that is your opinion and I will respect it.
I personally do not subscribe to that concept for the l long term, but it will definately help today with the hospital overload since it is novel and we are learning more everyday on how to treat it and even effectively diagnosis and test for it. We make exponential progress everyday combating this novel virus and we will reflect on these interesting weeks/months and learn how to better react in the future as there will be more viruses in the future that will be novel.
I'm not saying SIP until September. I saying social distancing with schools closed, no dine in restaurants and most folks working from home until September.
Fair enough. I think we're all hoping for the quickest and least painful resolution.
Also in case anyone who subscribes to asymptomatic testing. There are big time shortages of masks and gloves, etc. They have to change all of that out every time they test someone. So by going and getting tested without symptoms you are.
1. exposing yourself.
2. Taking up a test and lab time.
3. taking up rare medical PPE
4. Taking up the time of the nurse/doctor.
1. exposing yourself.
2. Taking up a test and lab time.
3. taking up rare medical PPE
4. Taking up the time of the nurse/doctor.
Yes, that process won't work. The testing system has to evolve and get better. I think that asymptomatic testing will play a key role in our ability to expedite the return to normalcy.
Friendly poop slap side bet?SoupNazi2001 said:austinaggie2003 said:
I'm not saying SIP until September. I saying social distancing with schools closed, no dine in restaurants and most folks working from home until September.
Yeh that won't happen either.
Excellent points. I had not really thought about that.Yukon Cornelius said:
Also in case anyone who subscribes to asymptomatic testing. There are big time shortages of masks and gloves, etc. They have to change all of that out every time they test someone. So by going and getting tested without symptoms you are.
1. exposing yourself.
2. Taking up a test and lab time.
3. taking up rare medical PPE
4. Taking up the time of the nurse/doctor.
If people are asymptomatic carriers, that means they've got the disease but it's so mild as to not manifest symptoms. Which means this thing isn't nearly the deadly virus some thing. Means the denominator is exponentially bigger than thought and drives the percentage of deaths/serious cases to minuscule figures.
So stop all the BS and get back to living & working.
So stop all the BS and get back to living & working.
Whatever dude. Non sick people should NOT flood to a place where the sick people are to see if they are asymptomatic.austinaggie2003 said:
Yes, that process won't work. The testing system has to evolve and get better. I think that asymptomatic testing will play a key role in our ability to expedite the return to normalcy.
This is not a new theory. It seems like we've know this for quite some time.TarponChaser said:
If people are asymptomatic carriers
It's never been about the mortality rate alone. Anyone focusing on that by itself is missing the bigger picture.TarponChaser said:
If people are asymptomatic carriers, that means they've got the disease but it's so mild as to not manifest symptoms. Which means this thing isn't nearly the deadly virus some thing. Means the denominator is exponentially bigger than thought and drives the percentage of deaths/serious cases to minuscule figures.
So stop all the BS and get back to living & working.
Not advocating for healthy people showing up to Sickville, USA to get tested by sick doctors. Again, the system has to change and I confident it will so that everyone can get tested quickly with limited human contact.Yukon Cornelius said:Whatever dude. Non sick people should NOT flood to a place where the sick people are to see if they are asymptomatic.austinaggie2003 said:
Yes, that process won't work. The testing system has to evolve and get better. I think that asymptomatic testing will play a key role in our ability to expedite the return to normalcy.
Its literally just about over running the hospitals. Thats it. It only becomes really deadly if the hospitals are maxed out. And to avoid that run people are told to social distance. NOT go get tested so you can post about on your social media.Thriller said:It's never been about the mortality rate alone. Anyone focusing on that by itself is missing the bigger picture.TarponChaser said:
If people are asymptomatic carriers, that means they've got the disease but it's so mild as to not manifest symptoms. Which means this thing isn't nearly the deadly virus some thing. Means the denominator is exponentially bigger than thought and drives the percentage of deaths/serious cases to minuscule figures.
So stop all the BS and get back to living & working.
You CANNOT test 330 million people with limited human contact.austinaggie2003 said:Not advocating for healthy people showing up to Sickville, USA to get tested by sick doctors. Again, the system has to change and I confident it will so that everyone can get tested quickly with limited human contact.Yukon Cornelius said:Whatever dude. Non sick people should NOT flood to a place where the sick people are to see if they are asymptomatic.austinaggie2003 said:
Yes, that process won't work. The testing system has to evolve and get better. I think that asymptomatic testing will play a key role in our ability to expedite the return to normalcy.
I agree with all of your point. I was not advocating for testing of all people.Yukon Cornelius said:Its literally just about over running the hospitals. Thats it. It only becomes really deadly if the hospitals are maxed out. And to avoid that run people are told to social distance. NOT go get tested so you can post about on your social media.Thriller said:It's never been about the mortality rate alone. Anyone focusing on that by itself is missing the bigger picture.TarponChaser said:
If people are asymptomatic carriers, that means they've got the disease but it's so mild as to not manifest symptoms. Which means this thing isn't nearly the deadly virus some thing. Means the denominator is exponentially bigger than thought and drives the percentage of deaths/serious cases to minuscule figures.
So stop all the BS and get back to living & working.
I know. I was expounding on your point. I agree with youThriller said:I agree with all of your point. I was not advocating for testing of all people.Yukon Cornelius said:Its literally just about over running the hospitals. Thats it. It only becomes really deadly if the hospitals are maxed out. And to avoid that run people are told to social distance. NOT go get tested so you can post about on your social media.Thriller said:It's never been about the mortality rate alone. Anyone focusing on that by itself is missing the bigger picture.TarponChaser said:
If people are asymptomatic carriers, that means they've got the disease but it's so mild as to not manifest symptoms. Which means this thing isn't nearly the deadly virus some thing. Means the denominator is exponentially bigger than thought and drives the percentage of deaths/serious cases to minuscule figures.
So stop all the BS and get back to living & working.
SIP in place won't last that long because its unsustainable. People will start going back to work regardless of what some county judge says because they need the money. Granted politicians are still drawing paychecks right now while the little guy is being told to close up shopaustinaggie2003 said:
Geez, just my opinion folks... I am not a public official and do not have any communication with any of them. My opinion matters 0.0%. Most hot spot areas are saying they would have SIP'd sooner and they're still SIP. My guess is SIP is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Trying to change my mindset and get used to the idea. I bet we could test everyone well before 2025, BadMoon. Not in favor of a collapsed society or riots/anarchy, FireAg. It seems like most of the experts are saying SIP, test, quarantine the infected and then return to controlled normal with social distancing.
If we have mass testing to flesh out silent carriers ...
Then what?
Then what?
If not mistaken S. Korea only tested those that were known to have come in contact with infected people. Not everyone.
This is about maxing out the hospitals where people die because of having Corona Virus or die due to the lack of doctors, beds, and or ventilators. Will the the numbers of the latter be factored into deaths because of the Corona Virus?
This is about maxing out the hospitals where people die because of having Corona Virus or die due to the lack of doctors, beds, and or ventilators. Will the the numbers of the latter be factored into deaths because of the Corona Virus?
You can do isolated quarantines instead of nationwide shutdownsStat Monitor Repairman said:
If we have mass testing to flesh out silent carriers ...
Then what?
ham98 said:You can do isolated quarantines instead of nationwide shutdownsStat Monitor Repairman said:
If we have mass testing to flesh out silent carriers ...
Then what?
Bingo
Good thing you're not in charge. Period.austinaggie2003 said:
To me, we SIP until we can test everyone. Period.
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