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Did you ever actually test? I seem to recall a post from you along the lines that you didnt really care to test because it wouldn't change anything.

I'm in NB as well. Pregnant wife and a 1 year old. Concerned how widespread this really is here

Not sure if she should be the one getting groceries or me. Obvs she's pregnant but I've got high BP and asthma. :/

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I haven't been able to test because my symptoms have been considered mild. I've maintained isolation in the interest of individuals like you and your family. Because of testing protocol there's no way to know how wide spread it is. If I have it asymptotically or "mildly" and don't take precautionary actions I could easily spread it everywhere.

You and your family are in my prayers. Take all possible precautions because there are no assurances. Do what you can to protect your family within reasonable means.

Terrible to have lost a life such as this.

http://herald-zeitung.com/community_alert/article_a1c9e2b8-6fcf-11ea-850e-338bfc0d412b.html/?=sdfdfdsfs&fbclid=IwAR1k3d9FrPkdBBrw-W-3FuIeZZzyNq5kL2ZQUdGCYquv8m5CEG1RkiYTaTU

Haven't read the article. Was he a smoker?

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Mendez was father to three boys and three girls. He also leaves behind his wife, Angela, and other family members.

Angela Mendez said her husband was a healthy man who didn't smoke or drink. He worked out, ate healthy and took vitamins every day, she said.

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Brutal

Non smoker

unmade bed said:

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hoosierAG said:

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Sure seems like a lot of younger deaths, maybe just ones I've seen lately is all. Live in N.C. and had a 30 yr old male pass, but was listed as underlying condition that made him high risk.

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Ya I feel like even non preexisting conditions young people are dying. I know the charts indicate 60&70+ still being highest risk but there seems to be a ton of people in their 40s dying. Theres gota be some predisposition factors like genetics at play here. I think there are still some mysteries to be solved w this thing.

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Can't trust those charts. China lies about everything. Then other countries relied on the initial reports and only focused testing in older people so their results "confirmed" that it was only killing olds.

But, my random guess is that it's high blood pressure. Would be curious to see how many patients with High BP test positive and then have mild symptoms. I know a ****ton if the deaths had High BP.

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I keep seeing high blood pressure being mentioned more and more. What if it being controlled by medicine?

Agreed, this virus kills indiscriminately. Taking data at face value from a different continent and genetic population was unwise for those who did. This can be a deadly disease for all comers.

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rgag12 said:

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HSomething tells me this guy had a heart or lung condition that he didn't know about and was undetected.

This virus doesn't kill people who have perfectly healthy lungs and hearts. This guy only being in his 40s I assume he just hadn't run into any complications yet in his life where he would seek out a doctor.

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You are very very wrong. A young nurse, 29, who ran a marathon in Feb died from my community. She was the picture of health. Literally no underlying conditions except excellent health and a high risk profession. Ask her family if virus kills indiscriminately.
Not saying older people don't have much greater risk but it happens to everyone.

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Do we know what the global (or even US) # of deaths under 40?

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Pulmcrit_ag said:

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Agreed, this virus kills indiscriminately. Taking data at face value from a different continent and genetic population was unwise for those who did. This can be a deadly disease for all comers.

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Yup. Telling people early on this only attacks those over 60 and those at high-risk is why even after multiple updates we still see young people not social distancing.

To many people this is still A) something that only impacts old people and B) something that if you aren't sick, you aren't carrying.

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Our local, state and federal governments should be HAMMERING on these false ideas everyday.

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Proposition Joe said:

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Pulmcrit_ag said:

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Agreed, this virus kills indiscriminately. Taking data at face value from a different continent and genetic population was unwise for those who did. This can be a deadly disease for all comers.

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Yup. Telling people early on this only attacks those over 60 and those at high-risk is why even after multiple updates we still see young people not social distancing.

To many people this is still A) something that only impacts old people and B) something that if you aren't sick, you aren't carrying.

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Our local, state and federal governments should be HAMMERING on these false ideas everyday.

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Ok can someone provide recent (week or 2) evidence where people are being told if you are not sick you arent carrying or that it doesn't impact the young?

I have not seen either.

I HAVE seen reports where younger are less likely to die but that they are still at risk for death.

Sure, we have seen young people die unfortunately but nobody said death for people between 0 - 40 would be 0%. It is in fact a number greater than 0%.

austinaggie2003 said:

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Proposition Joe said:

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Pulmcrit_ag said:

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Agreed, this virus kills indiscriminately. Taking data at face value from a different continent and genetic population was unwise for those who did. This can be a deadly disease for all comers.

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Yup. Telling people early on this only attacks those over 60 and those at high-risk is why even after multiple updates we still see young people not social distancing.

To many people this is still A) something that only impacts old people and B) something that if you aren't sick, you aren't carrying.

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Our local, state and federal governments should be HAMMERING on these false ideas everyday.

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Yup... But nah, kids still playing volleyball across the park. The trails are packed with people congregating and petting each other's dogs.

No one is really taking it as seriously as they should because the message changed so much.

Post on the local food beat writers facebook about how a bar in grapevine handed out free food to industry workers... Except in the picture there's 10 of them bunched together (though to be fair they had facemasks on)... The whole post basically broke down as follows:

+They were doing good for the community
-But they weren't following social distance guidelines
+Why are you calling them out for doing something good?
-Because they are missing the point of this whole thing
+Do you really think restaurants that are staying open are keeping people in the kitchen 6 feet away?
-That is what the order states, so if they aren't they shouldn't be open
+Have you seen a restaurant kitchen? It's impossible for cooks to keep 6 feet away


And these were all restaurant owners. Basically admitting that even though the order states they can only be open if they are keeping 6 feet away that they are still staying open because that's not really feasible to do.


Everyone thinks they are an exception and this whole thing really doesn't apply to them.

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I think most people understand it's about percentages. There are very few who think there is zero risk to any age group.

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I disagree. I think unless you have been keeping up-to-date with the news that you might assume what you heard early last week still applies, and early last week we weren't hammering home that you can be asymptomatic and still a carrier.

I guarantee you the first response out of any young person's mouth if they were caught in a group not social distancing would be "none of us are sick".

Not in my circle. Very few percentage wise that believe the things you guys are trying to push. that it can't affect young people. That if you aren't showing symptoms you aren't sick. That's all I can go off of. The vast majority of people I interact with my age understand these things right now. When you comb the internet, even a very small, minute percentage of 333 million people add up to a lot. But from a percentage standpoint, the majority seem to get it.

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Not in my circle. Very few percentage wise that believe the things you guys are trying to push. that it can't affect young people. That if you aren't showing symptoms you aren't sick. That's all I can go off of. The vast majority of people I interact with my age understand these things right now. When you comb the internet, even a very small, minute percentage of 333 million people add up to a lot. But from a percentage standpoint, the majority seem to get it.

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I won't argue with you there because my experience has been anecdotal... I just know what I've seen running on the trails the last week and it's either people don't care, or they don't understand.

Been outdoors every day since this happened, usually walking the dogs or running.

Not once I have seen anyone in my neighborhood come close to us or the dogs. Not once have I seen anyone else walking even close to another couple and/or their kids. No one has been at the basketball courts or playground. The worst I saw was two kids riding bikes, but heck even they might live together.

Again, not saying it's NOT HAPPENING AT ALL, but I still think that percentage wise it's pretty low from what I am witnessing. I would never expect it to hit zero. That's just not realistic with 333 million people. There will always be some. Like everything in life, it's all about percentages, though.

Agree to disagree i guess. If anything, it seems like people are in fact more aware of the fact that young people can die as it is starting to hit closer to home. I am not sure what the %s are but there is some reality setting in. I have not heard a a public official or anyone on the news for that matter tell young people that are invincible...

I am admittedly isolated as we are following the shelter in place stricly but we are seeing similar. When we walk our kinds *most* people are aware of surroundings and often you see people leaving sidewalk and going to street to maintain distances.

I agree with you. Just saying we need to continue to hammer on it. Prop Joe's comment was the narrative just a few days ago (+/- 10 days ago).

I agree with you. Just saying we need to continue to hammer on it. Prop Joe's comment was the narrative just a few days ago (+/- 10 days ago).

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rgag12 said:

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HSomething tells me this guy had a heart or lung condition that he didn't know about and was undetected.

This virus doesn't kill people who have perfectly healthy lungs and hearts. This guy only being in his 40s I assume he just hadn't run into any complications yet in his life where he would seek out a doctor.

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You are very very wrong. A young nurse, 29, who ran a marathon in Feb died from my community. She was the picture of health. Literally no underlying conditions except excellent health and a high risk profession. Ask her family if virus kills indiscriminately.
Not saying older people don't have much greater risk but it happens to everyone.

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I'm not saying she wasn't healthy, but I've met some marathon runners that weren't necessarily in great overall health and didn't have strong immune systems. You don't know her health history and what people look like to the outside is different than what may be going on in their body. See the soccer coach in Europe who was healthy and turns out had leukemia. Could have been crazy high BP cause of stress, who knows.

This is an anecdote that should be tossed out just as quickly as the anecdotes about treatments. Same with the Comal county guy. Not smoking or drinking doesn't mean you're healthy. Mid to late 40s you can be "thin" and still have BP, cholesterol, or any other number of issues and not face complications.

Everyone should be vigilant, but it is very rare for the young, healthy people to die.

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Something tells me this guy had a heart or lung condition that he didn't know about and was undetected.

This virus doesn't kill people who have perfectly healthy lungs and hearts. This guy only being in his 40s I assume he just hadn't run into any complications yet in his life where he would seek out a doctor.

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That's a bit disturbing - I guess that means any of us could have a condition that has been undetected and we don't know about that could cause us to die from this?

First confirmed case of community spread in Comal County.

http://herald-zeitung.com/community_alert/article_a2553cec-704b-11ea-9b7e-7f592f2c7d74.html?fbclid=IwAR2ws8XcTyYGV_VRGFi9k_rv2qBsSy05aH8HviElZjH8ZiQe-rV0eevVuUk

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rgag12 said:

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Something tells me this guy had a heart or lung condition that he didn't know about and was undetected.

This virus doesn't kill people who have perfectly healthy lungs and hearts. This guy only being in his 40s I assume he just hadn't run into any complications yet in his life where he would seek out a doctor.

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That's a bit disturbing - I guess that means any of us could have a condition that has been undetected and we don't know about that could cause us to die from this?

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Inevitably there are some people who have underlying health issues and don't know it. It's probably not a huge number, but there are some.

I'm not saying this individual did, but there is always that small chance.

Beyond that, we have to remember that this virus can sicken anyone and can kill anyone. Yes, it mostly kills people over 60 and those with underlying health issues, but just like the regular old flu, it can randomly kill anyone it infects.

When this is all over, hopefully scientists will look at the cases of younger people who died to see if there was something about those individuals which made them more susceptible to the virus, or was it simply 100% random chance.

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First confirmed case of community spread in Comal County.

http://herald-zeitung.com/community_alert/article_a2553cec-704b-11ea-9b7e-7f592f2c7d74.html?fbclid=IwAR2ws8XcTyYGV_VRGFi9k_rv2qBsSy05aH8HviElZjH8ZiQe-rV0eevVuUk

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Picked it up at heb or Walmart. That's discouraging

New Orleans had a 17 year old died of CV yesterday. I have no idea about underlying conditions but I assume that person wasn't healthy before contracting covid.