Cell phones are super cheap in China

AllTheFishes said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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On the wireless drop of 20 million customers, I found https://www.rcrwireless.com/20200327/business/chinese-operators-lose-21-million-subscribers which describes the drop from 1.6 billion to 1.58 billion - more subscriptions than there are people in CHina. You could believe some of it was due to less foreigners traveling in, people out of work permanently or temporarily, due to mobile store closures like in America, etc. Could also be far fewer humans due to Covid death, I guess, if we don't believe their deceased numbers.

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I agree that the entire 20 million drop isn't from deaths. As someone else mentioned, probably a lot of people dropped because they lost work and couldn't pay. Lots of drops are from the lack of foreign travel as well.

The question then is what percentage is from deaths and what percentage is from all the other things? 50% would still be 10 million deaths, even 10% at 2 million deaths exceeds by a significant amount anything the Chinese government is putting out.

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If 2 million died, and if we use Italian mortality rates, that would suggest 18 million contracted the virus and were tested and confirmed. Most think cases in Italy are under reported at least by a factor of 5 due to lack of testing - if accurate then that would imply around 100 million contracted the virus. 100 million between November (DNA analysis determined start of virus) and March.

If you used current worldwide death rate it would mean around 50 million were confirmed to contract the virus, and if still using the under reported by five fold assumption it would mean 250 million maybe actually had it.

Using your lower number, 2 million, would also imply the rest of the world is straight ****ed.

Not necessarily. Even the most skewed health care rankings (WHO) have the USA at #34 and China didn't make the top 100. Countries like Bangladesh are on the list, but not China.

Not only does their minimal healthcare suck, their leadership would rather build mass graves and hide reality than make decisions in the best interests of their citizens. Not surprising for a communist dictatorship that already has millions in concentration camps and exterminated millions more.

When there are reports of small mom and pop funeral homes receiving thousands of urns in week, it wouldn't surprise me that more than the bottom range of that number died of the virus.

Why doesn't any news outlet seem to bring up the fact that China's numbers aren't reliable? It is a little frustrating when you hear how terrible the USA while China miraculously hovers around the same number day after day.

Even 1% or .1% is a huge number compared to what they're reporting.

I wonder what the standard of care is for those infected in the Muslim concentration camps over there?

Chinese government providing "funeral hush money"......

Chinese Funeral Hush Money....While Incinerators Run 24 Hours Per Day

Here is another reason why we need to move our manufacturing out of China

https://news.yahoo.com/netherlands-recalled-600-000-coronavirus-090511130.html

Hmmmm. Fall of 2019.

Coronavirus circulating in September 2019

Lol china had a neat schtick going;

Buy and compromise american politicians
Make them stack us bureaucracies with cronies
Have them allow massive chinese education here and repatriate it back to china
Give them favorable world economic treatment status
Infiltrate their agents through our military contractors, universitites and tech companies
Openly facilitate their stealing secrets and intellectual property
All that took only billions to corrupt our leadersship - and their return on investment was tens of trillions.
Stealing Generational worldwide wealth - tens of trillions from american citizens, and transferring that to china
So much so that even a backwards, corrupt ****ty culture could overcome itself and become a superpower.

Suddenly one of their corruption boondoggles turns into a pandemic, and people expect anything other than deceipt, corruption, and pure unadulterated self interest out of them!?

Idk what their actual number under reporting is but I can guarantee it is a huge number and no one will ever know the whole truth. Nothing that ever comes out of China has any truth to it.