thirdcoast said:

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Duncan Idaho said:

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1) at the time we didn't have a reliable test for antibodies. (It can be argued that we don't)
2)it still hasn't been proved that durable imunity is a thing(evidence out of SoKo is suggesting it might not be, at least for all infections)
3. Putting on my tin foil hat, If it were a gaurenteed thing, you wouldn't want to advertise the fact because it wouldn't take a large cohort of "bug chasers" to get intentionally infected and completely blow the containment models out of the water.

Think about how fast this spread... Then thing how fast it would spread with people chasing it. Then do the math on the number of dead bodies

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This is what I don't understand. How do we not know one way or another if immunity exists? The only explanation is that some who clear CV19 have long term immunity, while others who clear it can get re-infected in near term. There has been enough time, test capability, and subjects to prove this out, yet it's still a major hush hush question in general public. It also brings into question Fauci's expertise as he stated in OP he was certain there was some type of long term immunity, and he would bet his entire experience on it.

The 1st reply to OP has 40 stars basically saying Duh, of course there is immunity. Our worthless press has been so busy trying to get a quick one on Trump for weeks that they still haven't asked one of the most critical questions that can be addressed- is there immunity or not!?

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People in SK tested positive for virus again after testing negative... suggests there is a possibility of reinfection. In truth, virus culture on some of those show the test is not triggering on live infectious virus.

Best guess, the virus entered the human population in Nov. How exactly are we supposed to know if this gives long term immunity? No one has been recovered long enough for us to know if immunity lasts even 6 months.

We haven't had reliable antibody tests even that long.

So a) Not enough test, b) not enough time, c) some subjects are testing positive again after several weeks which at least suggests reinfection might be possible.

We don't have the data to know yet. Why is this so hard to understand? Best guess is there will be some immunity, because that is the way things generally work, but we don't have a clue how long that might last. 6 mo, 1 yr, 5 yrs, 10 yrs, life?

thirdcoast said:

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Duncan Idaho said:

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1) at the time we didn't have a reliable test for antibodies. (It can be argued that we don't)
2)it still hasn't been proved that durable imunity is a thing(evidence out of SoKo is suggesting it might not be, at least for all infections)
3. Putting on my tin foil hat, If it were a gaurenteed thing, you wouldn't want to advertise the fact because it wouldn't take a large cohort of "bug chasers" to get intentionally infected and completely blow the containment models out of the water.

Think about how fast this spread... Then thing how fast it would spread with people chasing it. Then do the math on the number of dead bodies

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This is what I don't understand. How do we not know one way or another if immunity exists? The only explanation is that some who clear CV19 have long term immunity, while others who clear it can get re-infected in near term. There has been enough time, test capability, and subjects to prove this out, yet it's still a major hush hush question in general public. It also brings into question Fauci's expertise as he stated in OP he was certain there was some type of long term immunity, and he would bet his entire experience on it.

The 1st reply to OP has 40 stars basically saying Duh, of course there is immunity. Our worthless press has been so busy trying to get a quick one on Trump for weeks that they still haven't asked one of the most critical questions that can be addressed- is there immunity or not!?

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We don't know because 5 months ago this virus apparently did not exist. How do you know long term immunity when it wasn't here six months ago?

Normal Cornavirus only give very short term immunity, less than 6 months. The very little bit of data from MERS & SERS show waning immunity after 12 months.

We know that WHO and Fauci were wrong on pretty much everything so far. Not sure why anyone believes anything he says regarding long term immunity or anything else really.

DeangeloVickers said:

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Get it now when there is plenty of hospital space?

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And before you lose your good insurance.

leachfan said:

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DeangeloVickers said:

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Get it now when there is plenty of hospital space?

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And before you lose your good insurance.

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This is sadly on target

is the common cold a virus? Because i get those all the time; no immunity. ...and I had Influenza B twice this season - once in Dec and once in early Feb, even though I got a flu shot in November. The first time I had the flu in Dec was fever and body aches/chills and extreme tiredness for about a week. second time in Feb was mostly just fever and bad dry cough for a few days, but both times i tested positive for "B" at the HEB rediclinic.

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is the common cold a virus? Because i get those all the time; no immunity. ...and I had Influenza B twice this season - once in Dec and once in early Feb, even though I got a flu shot in November. The first time I had the flu in Dec was fever and body aches/chills and extreme tiredness for about a week. second time in Feb was mostly just fever and bad dry cough for a few days, but both times i tested positive for "B" at the HEB rediclinic.

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The "common cold" is caused by a variety of different viruses. Rhinovirus, human corona viruses, non-polio enteroviruses. All told, about 200 different viruses can cause the symptoms people refer to as the "common cold". Hard to get immunity to all 200.

There are also multiple influenzas. There are 3 types A, B, and C that infect humans, A comes in a bunch of different varieties designated by the H and N numbers. For reference, we all remember H1N1. There are at least 10 Hs and 9 Ns, so you can see the combinations can get pretty varied. And the flu vaccine is a guess at what strains (which H and which N) will be prevalent months before. Some years they get it right and it is around 80% effective, other years they get it wrong and it is closer to 50% effective. Current standard is a trivalent flu vaccine targeting best guess at 2 influence As and one influenza B. There is also a quadrivalent vaccine that targets 2 As and 2Bs. Entirely possible you got a trivalent, they guessed wrong on the Bs that would be common, and you ended up with 2 different B strains. Or you could just be unlucky and had a poor immune response.