MLB Conducting 10k person Antibody Test

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This is behind the paywall (I think) for The Athletic so I'll summarize below.

https://theathletic.com/1746724/2020/04/14/mlb-team-employees-will-be-the-subjects-of-the-u-s-s-largest-covid-19-antibody-study/

  • MLB is help researchers from Stanford, USC and a private lab conduct antibody testing on 10,000 employees.
  • Those tested include players, front office, part time employees (ushers, etc), and their families.
  • Testing is voluntary and self administered at home.
  • Purpose is to get a sense of antibody spread across wide range of population and geography.
  • Will not be used to determine when to restart the season (I'm skeptical of this. If it's positive, why not?)
  • Peer reviewed paper coming in 2-3 weeks.

I'll keep an eye out for results but could be very interesting. Here's a quote from the article:

"This will be the first time we will be able to see how truly prevalent COVID-19 has spread throughout the United States," said Bhattacharya. "And instead of it taking years to pull together a study of this scope, especially with stay-at-home orders, MLB has helped us turn it around in a matter of weeks."
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https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/15/834497497/antibody-tests-for-coronavirus-can-miss-the-mark

*** for the posters below who made wildly inaccurate assumptions about me... I support the testing, but I also found this article interesting that pertained to the topic.
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cityagboy said:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/04/15/834497497/antibody-tests-for-coronavirus-can-miss-the-mark
That's fine, and it's worth taking into consideration. The flu test and strep test aren't completely reliable and we still use them quite often.

As long as the study accounts for the misreads, it can still be a useful study.

These type of studies really need to be ramped up, because honestly, if everything is accounted for correctly, the results have significant impact on decision making going forward.
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Edited to remove snark.

These kinds of studies need to be done and this is really interesting way to get a huge cross section of the population. The first response doesn't have to be why it's bad.
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CowtownAg06 said:

I'll let the folks at Stanford and USC know that cityagboy thinks they are wasting their time.

These kinds of studies need to be done and this is really interesting way to get a huge cross section of the population. The first response doesn't have to be why it's bad.
I posted an article that provides some info to think about. I said nothing about the assumptions you made of me
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I thought it was fascinating, thanks for sharing. I find it interesting how NBA really kicked things off with social distancing and taking this seriously, and now MLB is taking lead on an antibody test.

Time for the NFL to step up.
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and remove my snarky comment.
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The NFL is taking the lead by giving us something (tangentially) related to sports with the upcoming draft
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Worls for me!
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They are testing any players, support staff, and family that want to be tested. I have a friends whose husband does some marketing for the Astros and their whole family was tested per their request. That explains how they can get 10,000 people to test.
CowtownAg06
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Good to know... the article said there were 3 teams that didn't participate. Obviously people immediately assumed one was the Astros.
Complete Idiot
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Has some second hand inside info on one of the teams and if true the test results weren't encouraging. We all agree this testing needs to be deployed in a widespread manner but it might not tell the story we all want it to.
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Clearly we're hoping for a much higher % to have antibodies, but at this point I think we just need to know. Any data should have some value.
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Do they plan on using a series of banging on trash cans to let people know their test results?
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CowtownAg06 said:

Clearly we're hoping for a much higher % to have antibodies, but at this point I think we just need to know. Any data should have some value.
Without question. Factual data is needed to decide how we proceed.
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AgStuckinLBK said:

Do they plan on using a series of banging on trash cans to let people know their test results?
Everyone caught on to that one, Morse code for them.

All of them came back negative and got an answer within a day. I am not sure of the antibody test. They posted their results on social media but took them down pretty quick, no idea why.
CowtownAg06
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Negative for the virus or for antibodies? I thought this was only testing for antibodies and supposed to have results in 15 min?
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CowtownAg06 said:

Negative for the virus or for antibodies? I thought this was only testing for antibodies and supposed to have results in 15 min?
Must have been for the antibodies, I was scrolling through social media and saw they posted something saying they were negative
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Quote:

Will not be used to determine when to restart the season (I'm skeptical of this. If it's positive, why not?)
Yeah... why in the world would they go through with this if they had no dog in the hunt?
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The altruistic version is that they can contact a large group of people across multiple cities and demographic sectors. The realistic version is to help get them back in games.
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Why are they pretending they won't use this data for their own purposes? Of course they will
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Article on results from ESPN
LINK
CowtownAg06
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I was just about to post this..

.7% positive for antibodies. Disappointing.
Complete Idiot
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It's a unique and limited population but at a minimum I guess this means no baseball for a while? But I'm assuming they'd be more likely to play if 40% were infected. which may have nothing to do with MLB's criteria.
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It would be interesting to do the same test now and see how much it went up even with social distancing
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CowtownAg06 said:

I was just about to post this..

.7% positive for antibodies. Disappointing.
I think it just goes to show why the disparity between socioeconomic groups. You could hardly find a group of people that would have been better able to stay at home than MLB players and staff. Frankly, they've done too good of a job locking down, so when they do get back together, we'll see the virus work through MLB.
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It wasn't just players but staff down to hourly employees. Now it was all optional and self administered so take that.

At the outset, they said this wouldn't be a factor in resuming play. I don't think that's changed.
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CowtownAg06 said:

It wasn't just players but staff down to hourly employees. Now it was all optional and self administered so take that.

At the outset, they said this wouldn't be a factor in resuming play. I don't think that's changed.
I think the point is the hourly staff aren't going to be at the ball park working when there is no season and everyone is under a stay home*. For the most part, except for the part time game day help, I would imagine most of the hourly staff was paid to stay home.


*Round Rock Express was doing meals to take home and heat up (once a week, get 5 meals for the family), so there could be people at the ballpark doing meal prep.

**and obviously grounds crew still have work to do, but that is pretty socially distant work.
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Exactly. Not everyone that works for MLB is a millionaire, but in all likelihood, everyone but ground crew was working from home. Most essential workers who have been physically reporting to work throughout this ordeal tend to be lower paid, and the virus went through their ranks first.
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So we've likely seen the extremes on 2 separate ends. 1200 out of 2700 meat packers infected. Then only 1% of MLB workers.

The answer is obviously in the middle for most of the US.
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basically if you don't live in NYC and you don't work indoors or in close quarters, the bug hasn't gotten to you yet
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Obviously they need to start MLB play. get the herd immunity going.
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I am sure every MLB player was rushing out to send a blood sample to some lab. Good try MLB. #entrapment
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In related news...
Quote:

Major League Baseball has formalized its plan to return to the field, with teams agreeing Monday on a proposal to send to the players' union for an 82-game season that would start without fans in early July.
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The league's proposal would authorize the shortest season since the early years of the National League in the late 1870s. To minimize travel, teams would play only against divisional rivals as well as teams in the corresponding geographic division of the opposite league.
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The postseason a lucrative revenue source for owners would expand to 14 teams, from 10, with two additional wild cards in each league. The team with the best record in each league would earn a spot in the division series, while the wild cards and other division winners would stage best-of-three series to determine the rest of the division-series field.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/11/sports/baseball/coronavirus-baseball-mlb-restart.html
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Love the plan!
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