Another potential game-changer: Far- UV-C light

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https://www.crr.columbia.edu/research/using-power-light-preventing-airborne-spread-coronavirus-and-influenza-virus

Researchers at Columbia University have coincidentally been working on this for a while to combat flu and "superbug" epidemics. Certain types of ultraviolet light are very effective in destroying bacteria and viruses. Unfortunately ultraviolet light can also be quite dangerous to humans as it can cause mutations in our own cells leading to cancer and other problems.

These researchers have been verifying the ability of a certain wavelength of UV-C light to kill airborne viruses on contact while not being able to penetrate human skin or even the tear layer of the eyes. . This means that this type of ultraviolet light could be safely installed not only in hospital rooms as a means of infection prevention but also in public places like stores, movie theaters, etc.

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What we have come up up with is a particular type of UV light ("far-UVC" light with a wavelength around 220 nm) which has only a very short range in biological material, so that it cannot penetrate the dead-cell layer at the surface of our skin, nor can it penetrate into our eyes. So it can't reach or damage any living cells in our body.
But it can penetrate and kill viruses floating in the air, simply because viruses are incredibly small.


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Necessity sure speeds along inventions

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This whole pandemic has obviously been like something out of a movie, but this is the first "treatment" that feels like straight up sci-fi, in the best way. Really hoping this is something that can be utilized. I have no idea how it would work, but I'm picturing metal detector-like scanners that we walk through, you get a burst of UV-C light, and you're good to go. And then there are designated officials in public who go around waving UV-C light wands over surfaces and the like. I dig it.
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TCTTS said:

This whole pandemic has obviously been like something out of a movie, but this is the first "treatment" that feels like straight up sci-fi, in the best way. Really hoping this is something that can be utilized. I have no idea how it would work, but I'm picturing metal detector-like scanners that we walk through, you get a burst of UV-C light, and you're good to go. And then there are designated officials in public who go around waving UV-C light wands over surfaces and the like. I dig it.


It would probably be a lot more boring than that...just built into light fixtures. The goal with this is to kill the virus while it's floating in the air so you would need some sort of persistent source.

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TCTTS said:

This whole pandemic has obviously been like something out of a movie, but this is the first "treatment" that feels like straight up sci-fi, in the best way. Really hoping this is something that can be utilized. I have no idea how it would work, but I'm picturing metal detector-like scanners that we walk through, you get a burst of UV-C light, and you're good to go. And then there are designated officials in public who go around waving UV-C light wands over surfaces and the like. I dig it.


You should read the article. They're thinking a lot bigger and more useful than that. Think of a lightbulb you can use in a standard fixture that will kill viruses floating in the air.
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TCTTS said:

This whole pandemic has obviously been like something out of a movie, but this is the first "treatment" that feels like straight up sci-fi, in the best way. Really hoping this is something that can be utilized. I have no idea how it would work, but I'm picturing metal detector-like scanners that we walk through, you get a burst of UV-C light, and you're good to go. And then there are designated officials in public who go around waving UV-C light wands over surfaces and the like. I dig it.
The more interesting concept to me is what they're hinting at in certain parts of the video...light fixtures with the ability to put out the UV-C light. It probably wouldn't need to be in every fixture but if it's every 5th or 10th or whatever fixture then you basically have a permanent sanitizing solution built into every public facility.

If this actually works, I could see this becoming part of building and health codes in the future.
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Light fixture strategy would be awesome, and makes total sense. I was mainly just posting the most "sci-fi" sounding things I could think of.
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Just a word of caution, this is not the same UV-C that is emitted by the UV-C lights you can buy on Amazon or home Depot.

Those are extremely damaging to you skin and eyes.
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TCTTS said:

Light fixture strategy would be awesome, and makes total sense. I was mainly just posting the most "sci-fi" sounding things I could think of.
Researching for an upcoming movie, no doubt
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Sounds pretty promising
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Might have crossed my mind...
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Have you seen the UVc garages for sanitizing buses in China?

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/05/buses-blasted-uv-light-rid-coronavirus-12352400/
Duncan Idaho
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I did build one of these for my mail, packages and cpg stuff.

https://makezine.com/projects/build-a-diy-uv-c-sterilization-cabinet-to-fight-covid-19/
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jagvocate said:

Necessity sure speeds along inventions
yep, no doubt.
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That's fantastic see a lot of uses including the ones they mentioned like train stations, airports, etc. but also maybe inside grocery's, restaurants, offices, planes, subways, etc.
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Duncan Idaho said:

Have you seen the UVc garages for sanitizing buses in China?

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/05/buses-blasted-uv-light-rid-coronavirus-12352400/

Now this is more along the lines of what I was thinking. That's straight out of a movie right there.
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Is this why seasonal flu spreads in winter? Is it as simple as the fact that people go outdoors in summer? Is the answer to the flu just year round Daylight Saving Time?
Duncan Idaho
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Straight out of aovie is why I brought it to your attention.

Google the UVc robots in hospitals
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Next door neighbor had UV lights installed in two of his air returns. Cost him like $1800 to get installed.
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Change out the Kyle field lights and lets play ball.
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Duncan Idaho said:

Just a word of caution, this is not the same UV-C that is emitted by the UV-C lights you can buy on Amazon or home Depot.

Those are extremely damaging to you skin and eyes.


Too late, I already ingested some UV-C lights I had for my fish tank...

Too soon?

Too soon.
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I chuckled
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Complete Idiot said:

Change out the Kyle field lights and lets play ball.

Kyle Field's gonna be lit. Literally.

Duncan Idaho
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I'll bring the shrooms
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https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3104275/replies/56302324#56302324

https://aem.asm.org/content/aem/22/1/61.full.pdf

If smaller wavelengths like gamma ray take 3 hours to kill viruses, how would UV light be effective?
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You guys want everyone to die from melanoma. This is how everyone dies of melanoma.
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unmade bed said:

You guys want everyone to die from melanoma. This is how everyone dies of melanoma.


The whole point of this far-end UV-C wavelength is to prevent any penetration of human cells at all, meaning our DNA gets left alone.
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texan12 said:

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3104275/replies/56302324#56302324

https://aem.asm.org/content/aem/22/1/61.full.pdf

If smaller wavelengths like gamma ray take 3 hours to kill viruses, how would UV light be effective?


The technology has shown to be effective against the flu virus. They are testing it for coronavirus but it should work the same way. They tested by aerosolizing virus particles and passing them through an area with their light active, and were able to show the vast majority of viruses were wiped out. They did not have a 100% kill rate, but a 100% kill rate is not necessary. Just have to get it down enough to highly reduce the risk of infection.
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016609340400179X

"To examine the inactivation potential of UVA and UVC, virus stocks were placed in 24-well tissue culture plates and exposed to UV irradiation on ice for varying amounts of time, as indicated in Fig. 1A. Exposure of virus to UVC light resulted in partial inactivation at 1 min with increasing efficiency up to 6 min (Fig. 1A), resulting in a 400-fold decrease in infectious virus. No additional inactivation was observed from 6 to 10 min. After 15 min the virus was completely inactivated to the limit of detection of the assay, which is 1.0 TCID50 (log10) per ml. In contrast, UVA exposure demonstrated no significant effects on virus inactivation over a 15 min period. Our data show that UVC light inactivated the SARS virus at a distance of 3 cm for 15 min"
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Makes you wonder if this is all like the over use of antibiotics which will results in a superbug.
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unmade bed said:

You guys want everyone to die from melanoma. This is how everyone dies of melanoma.


Read a textbook or two bro.
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UV-C has been used in commercial air conditioning systems for a while now. You put strong UV-C lights down a long corridor of air intake, and it can be extremely effective at killing bacteria and viruses.
Duncan Idaho
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This is different from those systems
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Bump
We need to put these fixtures in Groceries and Restaurants and any other places that we want to sanitize ASAP
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This is interesting but I will definitely be waiting before I fully accept this. Just look at all the weight loss drugs of the late 90's early 00's a few years after they were released the radios were filled with commercials from layers asking if you had been exposed/taken this or that. Hell even asbestos and benzene used to be thought safe.
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