Vaccines

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Is there a way to track what vaccines the young people affected by covid had? Is it possible combinations the people under 50 have had protect them more than older people?
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Very possible but pretty far fetched that a vaccine for a totally unrelated virus/bacteria would help with COVID. The only sorta new vaccines are:

Hepatitis B 1999 or so
Pneumococcal vaccine (PCV)
HPV
Rotavirus
Hep A

None of those are even remotely similar to coronavirus in any way.
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It's my understanding that they're actually conducting human trials on a vaccine as we speak and if it works, could be available as early as the fall.

The only reason they don't have a similar vaccine now is not so much as difficulty in making one as there has been a lack of necessity to develop one up until now. Most coronaviruses are either not very deadly or not as infectious as SARS-COV2.

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AggieUSMC said:

It's my understanding that they're actually conducting human trials on a vaccine as we speak and if it works, could be available as early as the fall.

The only reason they don't have a similar vaccine now is not so much as difficulty in making one as there has been a lack of necessity to develop one up until now. Most coronaviruses are either not very deadly or not as infectious as SARS-COV2.


And the ones that were did not spread easily and were rapidly contained and thus destroyed (SARS & MERS)

I believe there are currently 4 vaccines on human trials.

https://time.com/5819887/coronavirus-vaccines-development-who/

That article was before the UK started a trial yesterday.
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KidDoc said:

Very possible but pretty far fetched that a vaccine for a totally unrelated virus/bacteria would help with COVID. The only sorta new vaccines are:

Hepatitis B 1999 or so
Pneumococcal vaccine (PCV)
HPV
Rotavirus
Hep A

None of those are even remotely similar to coronavirus in any way.

When listing new vaccines, there is an Ebola vaccine as well. Not being used in the US at this time, but in other parts of the world.
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pantherag said:

KidDoc said:

Very possible but pretty far fetched that a vaccine for a totally unrelated virus/bacteria would help with COVID. The only sorta new vaccines are:

Hepatitis B 1999 or so
Pneumococcal vaccine (PCV)
HPV
Rotavirus
Hep A

None of those are even remotely similar to coronavirus in any way.

When listing new vaccines, there is an Ebola vaccine as well. Not being used in the US at this time, but in other parts of the world.
Yeah but I think the OP was proposing that routine childhood vaccination changes from the 1960's to know could explain why children are less effected by COVID. Basically that newer vaccines are protecting vs COVID incidentally.

Good point though!
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AggieUSMC said:

It's my understanding that they're actually conducting human trials on a vaccine as we speak and if it works, could be available as early as the fall.

The only reason they don't have a similar vaccine now is not so much as difficulty in making one as there has been a lack of necessity to develop one up until now. Most coronaviruses are either not very deadly or not as infectious as SARS-COV2.



The record for fastest developed vaccine was for the mumps and that took FOUR years.

What they are trying to do now is incredible but there are zero guarantees they will have anything useful this fall.

It's worth noting that IF they have something this fall it will possibly be used in outbreak areas DURING Phase 3 trials. i.e. - still in the testing phase.

More likely it will be another 12 to 18 months or longer before one of the 70 vaccines that are currently being developed hit pay dirt.
89DogDoc94
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KidDoc said:

pantherag said:

KidDoc said:

Very possible but pretty far fetched that a vaccine for a totally unrelated virus/bacteria would help with COVID. The only sorta new vaccines are:

Hepatitis B 1999 or so
Pneumococcal vaccine (PCV)
HPV
Rotavirus
Hep A

None of those are even remotely similar to coronavirus in any way.

When listing new vaccines, there is an Ebola vaccine as well. Not being used in the US at this time, but in other parts of the world.
Yeah but I think the OP was proposing that routine childhood vaccination changes from the 1960's to know could explain why children are less effected by COVID. Basically that newer vaccines are protecting vs COVID incidentally.

Good point though!


Or the converse. Older vaccine protocol s actually make a patient more susceptible. ie Smallpox
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