well there's really nothing that can be done if that's the case

it'll be a rolling year by year mass death event

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Duncan Idaho said:

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DadHammer said:

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Player, I actually hope you are wrong because if you are right when we open back up that will be a big problem.

Open safe practices.

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There are a lot of people that will continue to act the fool until someone in they know intimately dies.

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For most that probably won't happen.

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Oh I dount know about that. I still think the death toll is going to be high without a vaccine. I have seen no convincing argument otherwise. Say by the end of 2021.

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Again, if one of my older relatives with health conditions were to die, that would not change my individual behavior. If 20-year-old Marine Corps infantrymen or kids started dropping, that would concern me and I would adjust behavior accordingly.

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Everyone acts like Sweden is just rolling along as normal because they didn't "shut things down".

The fact is that a majority of Swedes are voluntarily doing most of the things that other countries are requiring. It's not like Swedes are out in crowded restaurants/bars, traveling around all over the country, and gathering in large groups. I really cant figure out why everyone is acting like Sweden is just 100% open and behaving normally. So the govt didn't "require" many lock downs..... but in large part, Swedes are behaving rationally because they're pretty smart.

I really hate that I see things this way, but I'm pretty positive that if our govt followed Sweden's lead, we'd really be screwed, because people would be at full mega churches, packing restaurants, etc.

We really should just stop this myth that Sweden is carrying on as normal.

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agsalaska said:

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SirLurksALot said:

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Duncan Idaho said:

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DadHammer said:

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Player, I actually hope you are wrong because if you are right when we open back up that will be a big problem.

Open safe practices.

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There are a lot of people that will continue to act the fool until someone in they know intimately dies.

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For most that probably won't happen.

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Oh I dount know about that. I still think the death toll is going to be high without a vaccine. I have seen no convincing argument otherwise. Say by the end of 2021.

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Again, if one of my older relatives with health conditions were to die, that would not change my individual behavior. If 20-year-old Marine Corps infantrymen or kids started dropping, that would concern me and I would adjust behavior accordingly.

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I agree 100%. Though it might change my behavior a little. Ive never been a fan of big crowds anyway, and this wont help. But it won't change my behavior very much either. Not day to day at least.

But I don't think giving people false hope or a false sense of security from it helps either. That does more harm than good. The sooner people accept the fact that lots of people will get it and lots will die the better.

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The_Fox said:

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I said a lot, not every.

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Then let my city and county decide for themselves. You know freedom? We know our situation better than Austin.

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Tell that to your conservative Governor

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I didn't vote for wheels.

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We tried the let each county decide thing, several Texas counties decided to lose their minds.

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well there's really nothing that can be done if that's the case

it'll be a rolling year by year mass death event

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Yes. It would suck. It's also the norm for all but the last 100 years of human history. I'm not just talking about the seismic horror of the Bubonic Plague wiping out a third of the population. But infectious diseases that killed a small percentage of the population every year and came back again and again were just part of life. Typhoid, measles, cholera, smallpox, scarlet fever, etc. We have been blessed beyond measure to have lived most of our lives in a time where death from infectious diseases was simply not part of our world. I hope COVID19 joins that list but there's no assurance that it will.

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Player To Be Named Later said:

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Everyone acts like Sweden is just rolling along as normal because they didn't "shut things down".

The fact is that a majority of Swedes are voluntarily doing most of the things that other countries are requiring. It's not like Swedes are out in crowded restaurants/bars, traveling around all over the country, and gathering in large groups. I really cant figure out why everyone is acting like Sweden is just 100% open and behaving normally. So the govt didn't "require" many lock downs..... but in large part, Swedes are behaving rationally because they're pretty smart.

I really hate that I see things this way, but I'm pretty positive that if our govt followed Sweden's lead, we'd really be screwed, because people would be at full mega churches, packing restaurants, etc.

We really should just stop this myth that Sweden is carrying on as normal.

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Well that statement wasn't dramatic at all. You could just read an article about it:

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Pomeroy pointed to some Swedish characteristics that may be helping the country deal with the current crisis. More than half of Swedish households are single-person, making social distancing easier to carry out. More people work from home than anywhere else in Europe, and everyone has access to fast Internet, which helps large chunks of the workforce stay productive away from the office.

And while many other countries have introduced strict laws, including hefty fines if people are caught breaching newly minted social-distancing laws, Swedes appear to be following such guidelines without the need for legislation. Trips from Stockholm to Gotland -- a popular vacation destination -- dropped by 96% over the Easter weekend, according to data from the country's largest mobile operator, Telia Company. And online service Citymapper's statistics indicate an almost 75% drop in mobility in the capital.

Sweden also recently pushed back against the notion that there's little to no social distancing going on.

"We don't have a radically different view," Foreign Minister Ann Linde said in an interview with Radio Sweden. "The government has made a series of decisions that affect the whole society. It's a myth that life goes on as normal in Sweden."

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-19/sweden-says-controversial-covid-19-strategy-is-proving-effective

I'm pretty confident they'll at least be able to make a booster shot that'll take the edge off

plus it's not like your T cells are going to forget the fight either

over time, we'd get trained on how to fight the virus, starting out when we're children