barnyard1996 said:So the Covid money thing was total conspiracy dreamed up by the right? I thought you didnt want to make this political?PJYoung said:Ranger222 said:
I do not understand the fervor over the death statistic.
Because a pet conspiracy theory from the right was that covid deaths were way over-inflated to put pressure on Trump and to get that mythical free covid $. It popped up about the time this virus made flu death #s look pedestrian.
Seems like a double standard.
I think it's important to lay out the facts here. The double standard is talking about not making this political and then making it political.
In this case, the context of what you presume is that the message from the Republicans and Trump has been that any assistance provided to the states should be based on impact by covid and not by anything else like poor financial management of pensions.
With states knowing that, the right's position is that states are inflating the covid numbers. Is that why? Who knows. There are direct testimony from with in those areas however about lots of deaths bring label as covid even when presumed. This is a fact. Why it's happening could be that the system is overwhelmed and the stress is causing doctors to take the easy path and move on to the next death.
Or maybe they have been told... This is the conspiracy and has no factual basis. But you could see the logic given the context.
I've always said that arguing over covid deaths doesn't matter in a world where we are still learning how to count. What does matter is total deaths. If total deaths is relatively flat it means one of two things:
1. The stay at home measures completely killed any pneumonia deaths and covid is filling the gap...or
2. We aren't counting right between pneumonia and covid and it's an attribution problem.
Either way, if you boil down the argument, it really comes down to whether we think we should have destroyed the economy in either case. If we say the stay at home orders completely knocked out pneumonia and it's all covid, it's still not much more death than the total in any given year and we don't destroyed the economy every year.
Despite what people argue about, it just really comes down to this.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and work on the commonalities... No one wants people to die. It's how do we contain it. And on that either extreme isn't useful. Can't stay in a hole forever and can't just around everywhere.
Edited to correct autocorrect.
