making the case for FEMA camp central quarantine

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https://thedispatch.com/p/what-if-we-tried-a-real-quarantine

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It is not too late for the U.S. to implement centralized quarantine programs. The U.S. has 5 million hotel rooms, mostly vacant right now. We also have thousands of vacant schools that could be converted into temporary residences for low-risk individuals. And if that's not enough, the U.S. military and FEMA both have enormous experience setting up large-scale temporary habitation areas. They could certainly set up centralized quarantine sites for hundreds of thousands or even millions of Americans.
However, many Americans worry about what centralized quarantine would mean. So let me dispel some myths.

Centralized quarantine will separate parents and children.
It is likely that children could be quarantined with parents in necessary cases. Children are at very low risk of dying of COVID, and if we're using hotels and schools, there will be no shortage of family-size rooms. It is unnecessary to break up families in a centralized quarantine program (though if families request separate placement, that could be arranged too). Furthermore, in most cases, if one family member tests positive, all others are likely to be close contacts, and thus will be subjected to quarantine anyways.

Isolation will be miserable.
In the case of people who test positive but are symptomatic or low-risk, it may not be necessary to have individual isolation at all. Group quarantine of positive-but-low-risk individuals should not pose any significant public health risk. For others, isolation will be difficult, but, again, assuming hotels are the dominant quarantine site, individuals should at least have access to the internet to entertain themselves.

Quarantine will result in ruined household budgets.
The government can and should compensate individuals for lost work time. Paying quarantined individuals a reasonably high, fixed per-day rate would be no costlier than the COVID relief programs already in place, and far more useful to society on the whole.

People will be forced into camps at gunpoint.
While centralized quarantine should be mandatory, it probably will not require much or any actual force. The government can achieve its goals in a far simpler way: administrative fines. Individuals resisting a quarantine order could simply have a daily fine levied on them, set by a judge at a level sufficiently large to be likely to create compliance. Some people might pay the fine or accept bankruptcy, but most people would give in pretty quickly after racking up $1,000 daily fines. Failure to pay the fine would simply result in a lien on property or wage garnishment by the IRS, not a SWAT team knocking down your door. Centralized quarantine in America need not involve the police at all. Achieving 90 percent compliance and raking in huge fines from the remainder would still be a huge improvement over the status quo.

Americans won't accept this.
Just like they didn't accept lockdowns? The idea that Americans won't accept a bootheel on their liberty seems pretty clearly disproven at this point: Centralized quarantine is a soft slipper by comparison. Moreover, it's still early, and anecdotal, but businesses in states that have reopened are reporting that customers are not turning out in droves, despite our collective desire to return to normal.

yeah, that's a no from me, dawg
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These people appear to need a dose of reality. I'm not getting in your boxcar.

https://ifstudies.org/about/our-people
B-1 83
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Why not weld them in their houses or just shoot them?
Ol_Ag_02
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B-1 83 said:

Why not weld them in their houses or just shoot them?


That would certainly be easier than the crap the nazi in the OP is talking about.
goodAg80
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B-1 83 said:

Why not weld them in their houses or just shoot them?
cone
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I bet he thought himself clever to have the IRS garnish your wages or put a lien on your house rather than just have the cops arrest you

what a crazy person
normaleagle05
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He's living in Hong Kong. Want to wager as to his take regarding goings on there?
cone
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so a guy who works for AEI wants to take your house without due process

cool
Ol_Ag_02
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cone said:

I bet he thought himself clever to have the IRS garnish your wages or put a lien on your house rather than just have the cops arrest you

what a crazy person


Can you imagine the amount of blood in the streets if LEOs we're trying to forcefully kidnap citizens to place them into quarantine. It would be a Civil War level disaster.
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Having real quarantine as an option would be helpful.
The current level of testing a large % of people who would need to be quarantined would be symptomatic but not so sick that they needed hospitalization. If a large population of sick people could be studied the Drs could get a better idea why some people end up getting much worse. The Drs could also do real studies with the various OTC and off label drugs ( hcq) We certainly have space at hotels and schools. IMO lots of people would take quarantine over going home and infecting their family
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So a quarantine camp and forced experiments?

Where have I heard of this before?
Pulmcrit_ag
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Actually using some of these wild expenditures to cover the cost of live virus experiments and compensation for volunteers could speed an answer to all these things up. Age 18-28 with clean bill of health. Hotels and onsite medical care. Not without risk. Drugs, vaccines, minimal infectious dose inoculation.
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