Face Shields Over Masks

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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 9:49a, 6/14/20
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3rd Generation Ag said:
It is not over till all of us, including those of us over 70 can with relative safety resume normal life. Being shut up in my apartment month after month is not normal life. If everyone wearing a mask for three weeks would slay this dragon, then I dont understand why we don't do it.

Most of you say you don't care since it is only bad for old people. Glad to know that after a life time of serving others, suddenly our lives don't matter.
I think the reality is, at this point, the ones who will wear the masks will and the ones who have decided not to, won't. It's just the reality of the situation in a free country. So the next question is, how does this effect you, 3rd Gen. Is this virus really the threat to you that you are worried it is? What real medical conditions do you have that would warrant those around you to have to wear a mask? Not making a point, actually asking. For instance I take Remicade every 10 weeks and my immune system is lowered for about 4-5 days. That would be the real medical condition or situation I would have being around others. Is your immune system actually compromised in some fashion? Or are you just concerned b/c of your age?

I ask b/c you may be fine to go out either masked or even unmasked, and could very likely be fine if you contract it. These are questions you would need to ask and be able to answer.

Finally, given a world where masks are worn 100% is obviously never going to happen, the final question is what can you do? If you have an underlying condition or compromised immunity, how can you boost it? Rev Doc has put out a lot of suggestions and those will help. More intense exercise over time boosts the immune system too. For instance, maybe now walking 30 min at a certain pace really makes you tired, then do that pace until it doesn't. and go faster. progressively overload the exercise. Your body has to adapt to keep up and your immune system goes along for the ride as well. Add weights. Set goals and don't just "go through the motions" but actually increase the weight, reps, lower rest, set up and change variables over time to make it more focused and intense. The immune system will have to adjust as well, making it stronger along with the rest of your body. The stronger you are, the more survivable you are to extreme circumstances like illness and injury. Especially after 70 years old. Make sure your diet is an immune strengthening diet. Google it and see what things boost the immune system and avoid the things that tear your immune system down.

You don't need to stay in your house for fear. You don't need to avoid those not masked up. Maybe avoid French kissing them . I've stopped licking doorknobs and elevator buttons. But in all seriousness, get out there but just add the armor you need to win the fight. Folks will decide not to wear a mask. It's just a reality. There are still great options for you that really you should do even if everyone wore a mask. Masks "limit" the spread, but they do not eliminate it.
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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 10:13a, 6/14/20
3rd Generation Ag said:
It is not over till all of us, including those of us over 70 can with relative safety resume normal life. Being shut up in my apartment month after month is not normal life. If everyone wearing a mask for three weeks would slay this dragon, then I dont understand why we don't do it.

Most of you say you don't care since it is only bad for old people. Glad to know that after a life time of serving others, suddenly our lives don't matter.


First, thank you for your service teaching. Both of my parents were career teachers, now retired, and in their early 70s.

I don't think I will change your perspective but I'd like to point out that you are choosing to make yourself a prisoner. You are choosing to live in fear, and I am sad for you. You are caving to the media fueled hysteria. Understand that your choice is 100% your choice and your fear shouldn't dictate how others approach life.

Both of my parents are back out living life. They hunkered down for a few weeks, realized that it's not worth it to live in fear and decided that they would rather live life than imprison themselves voluntarily.

Be brave. Step out. Realize that your mind is overwhelming your common sense, under the influence of the hysteria. Take care and thank you for teaching. Teachers are the salt of the earth, and we all should be more thankful.
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10:24a, 6/14/20
3rd Generation Ag, I feel for you. Clearly you've taken the advice of public health experts to heart (vs. random internet folks), and it truly is unfortunate that the selfishness of others is adversely affecting your life. Since these people are unlikely to change their behavior, and the risk for your age demographic is high (which you know), I hope and pray a vaccine appears sooner rather than later and allows you to resume a normal life.
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10:40a, 6/14/20
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Those of you patronizing 3rd Gen Ag are true *******s.

You somehow managed to spend years at Texas A&M and came out of it without the ability to put yourselves into the shoes of someone else.
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In reply to Player To Be Named Later • 10:44a, 6/14/20
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Player To Be Named Later said:
Old Buffalo said:
amercer said:
"Winding down"


Sorry your virus lost.


You, and the extremes opposite you are what's wrong with this country. Everything is about things having to be 100% one way or the other and "winning and losing"

You're an idiot if you think there is really anyone CHEERING for the virus.

It's this mob mentality on both sides that has made me only come to TexAgs about 1/10th as much as I did before all this. It permeates every board pretty much. Not much difference anymore between this place and Facebook/Nextdoor

One more time for the people in the back.
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11:47a, 6/14/20
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I am over 70. The virus is high risk for me. I feel I will either die if I get if or be left with co pays that would wipe out my small nestegg for emergencies. There are a number of studies that say what when the masking rate is high, transmission all but stops. That is one reason so many Asian counties have been able to get this under control.

You wear a mask and social distance in public to protect other people. The fact that so many refuse to do so tells me their level of empathy for humanity is pretty low.
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In reply to Joe Exotic • 12:08p, 6/14/20
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Joe Exotic said:
ElephantRider said:
Joe Exotic said:
I and many others won't voluntarily wear a mask under any circumstances and now they want a face shield too?


Ya... people just won't do this anymore especially as this is winding down.

I get that you don't want to wear a mask, but why do you care so much about other people wearing them?


If we don't stay diligent these people will try to push it as compulsory.


But why is it such a big deal to you if other people want to have compassion and make a very, very minor sacrifice to help others?
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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 12:12p, 6/14/20
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3rd Generation Ag said:
I am over 70. The virus is high risk for me. I feel I will either die if I get if or be left with co pays that would wipe out my small nestegg for emergencies. There are a number of studies that say what when the masking rate is high, transmission all but stops. That is one reason so many Asian counties have been able to get this under control.

You wear a mask and social distance in public to protect other people. The fact that so many refuse to do so tells me their level of empathy for humanity is pretty low.

Americans are a selfish people. For some people it doesn't matter how much it will help others, if it's a minor inconvenience they won't do it. I don't particularly enjoy wearing a mask either, but it's really not that big of a deal.
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12:37p, 6/14/20
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And the two times I have been out, it was a double disappointment. The ones not wearing a mask were also not making any effort to stay six feet away from other people. So they had no no mask and they would crowd right up to people who did have on masks and who were respecting social distance.
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In reply to FlyRod • 12:49p, 6/14/20
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FlyRod said:
3rd Generation Ag, I feel for you. Clearly you've taken the advice of public health experts to heart (vs. random internet folks), and it truly is unfortunate that the selfishness of others is adversely affecting your life. Since these people are unlikely to change their behavior, and the risk for your age demographic is high (which you know), I hope and pray a vaccine appears sooner rather than later and allows you to resume a normal life.
This is part of the problem. It's overly judgmental and creates divisiveness. The ones who choose not to wear masks do not need to be called names and ostracized. Many could argue that as long as those who are compromised wear the mask, they are as safe even if others do not. And again, those choosing not to wear a mask can pick their battles better no doubt. One doesn't need to flaunt the fact that they won't wear a mask. The intent of the OP was to show other potentially effective ways to wear protection. The info is great. Obviously, ones who won't wear the mask are free to do so, no name calling or judgement from me. But the thread is about the face shields and not a chance for those of us who choose to not wear the mask to have to share that fact.

Also, no one asks why some do not wear masks and if they are actually excluded from their need to wear one. For instance, what if they have already had covid? They are very unlikely to spread the virus obviously. What if, like me, they are on an immune-suppressant? I am much less likely to be asymptomatic since I'd probably get the symptoms rather quickly. Also, they may have other situations like health conditions which requires they not block their O2 intake. I operate a gym. It's unwise to wear a mask if you are training with any true level of intensity and there have already been well documented cases of people having health issues b/c they trained with a mask. Walking or light running? Sure, not probably an issue. A triathlete training for an upcoming race or a person focusing on heavy lifting or hypertrophic muscle growth? Don't even think about it.

And I hope 3rd Gen and others understand that my earlier post was a legitimate attempt to give others options as the battle to constantly convince others to wear a mask is just not a winnable one. In the end, once a person confronts what the reality of a situation is, the next step is to figure out what actions one can take to get the next best thing. Since I am a fitness professional, these are the tips I give my members and clients who are concerned and the exact same tips my doctor agrees 100% with.
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12:55p, 6/14/20
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public health community deserves a lot of blame here

they'be completely bungled the messaging for months
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1:50p, 6/14/20
They haven't "bungled," they've updated as new data about a very new virus becalmed available. Confirming some people's priors is not the same as bungling.
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1:57p, 6/14/20
Capitol Ag, your points are good and valid ones. And yes, masks in gyms are a PITA.

I think the concern 3rd Gen (and others) raise is a more general one, and likely focused on indoor businesses where it in fact would be a minor inconvenience...grocery store, movie theatre, etc.
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In reply to FlyRod • 2:23p, 6/14/20
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bull****

they knew how SARS was spread

they told a noble lie to stop a potential run on PPE

and now we're stuck with that fallout
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In reply to cone • 3:16p, 6/14/20
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cone said:
bull****

they knew how SARS was spread

they told a noble lie to stop a potential run on PPE

and know we're stuck with that fallout


I'd assume that most of us that graduated from A&M were smart enough to figure that out from the beginning. As soon as I heard that on the news, I turned to my spouse and said they were saying that to stop a run on the N95 and KN95 masks that were still on store shelves and in warehouses.

Doesn't mean people should use that as an excuse several months later for not wearing masks.
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In reply to murphyag • 3:20p, 6/14/20
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public trust is a fragile thing

unfortunately

this is why you don't noble lie
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5:52p, 6/14/20
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I got my face shield today from Amazon. Have not tried it yet to see if it seems better than a mask, but now I have three options. Cloth mask, disposable mask, and cleanable shield.

I will see which is most confortable. Again, my mask does little to protect me. A mask helps keep your droplets from getting to me. And so does social distancing. But it does seem that people either practice both or none. And the second wave is upon us.
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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 6:47p, 6/14/20
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I'm curious to hear what you think of it after you've worn it.
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In reply to 3rd Generation Ag • 7:22p, 6/14/20
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3rd Gen,

Do you have a N95 mask that you can wear when you go out in public? If not, I have a few and would be glad to mail them to you. That way you can feel more
comfortable going out. Thanks for your service.
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8:28p, 6/14/20
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Are respirators generally available in stores now?
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In reply to cone • 9:32p, 6/14/20
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Please stop.

Still today we do not know how the original SARS-CoV-1 is spread some twenty years later. All we still have are best guesses because we lost desire/interest to fund critical research to answer these questions. That is why we are still left guessing as a new coronavirus pandemic has run through our country and communities with no clear policy in place.

To say "they knew" or anyone knew is just being misinformed.
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11:17p, 6/14/20
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In case you missed it.

https://today.tamu.edu/2020/06/12/texas-am-study-face-masks-critical-in-preventing-spread-of-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR06fOEXy6EyQIl0f7Gfw-j5L5KZYyiORPeH7c8ATzBGxFZ-WO-kcIIMqjI
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In reply to cone • 8:09a, 6/15/20
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cone said:
public trust is a fragile thing

unfortunately

this is why you don't noble lie
Strangely enough, I liked you better when you were all doom and gloom. This story arch where you try to turn every thread into a *****-fest about the government is getting so tiresome. Give it a rest dude, we all know how you feel.
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In reply to BowSowy • 8:25a, 6/15/20
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if you want to further discuss your opinions about my opinions, feel free to hit me up with a PM

you seem intent on tone policing so let's take this offline
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11:31a, 6/15/20
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Just saw an ad for these. Might solve my issue with the face shields. Ordered one to try out. https://www.arttoframe.com/adult-face-shield/clear/pack-1
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