We may, but the consensus among most researchers is several vaccines may be available in late Spring 2021, at the earliest. The FDA is allowing researchers to concomitantly perform Phase I, II, and III trials instead of completing each before moving to the next. However, these do take time, and the FDA must review the data before approval. And as I mentioned in my previous post, we currently don't have the manufacturing capabilities to produce the amount of vaccine needed. So that limited supply will be given to healthcare workers, and those at highest risk levels. General population availability will be much later.

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It's not that it's impossible, but it would almost literally mean every single thing lining up perfectly regarding trials, testings, side effects, manufacture and distribution. That's generally not how science works, even before politics and manufacturing resources come into play. There's a reason most drugs don't make it out of trials.

I know we're throwing everything we have at this vaccine and the resources are as close to unlimited as they've ever been, and we started on third base with a lot of research already done. But I will personally be amazed if this thing is available as a standard vaccine (non-experimental) within 12 months to the public. Happy but amazed.

Define "Legitimate"....one that is 50% effective, 25% effective, 100% effective???? Many (most?) vaccines aren't 100% effective. My doc told me the shingles vaccine (which I have taken) is only 50% effective and if you get shingles after taking the vaccine, it can reduce symptoms by 50%. Whether that is factual or not I don't know.

I highly doubt they will ever produce a 100% effective vaccine. So it gets down to what the MSM and the rest of the Coronabros decide to define as "legit".

Workable vaccine likely ready to go end of year for healthcare and rest of the population first of the year.

Problem is there is a good chance new vaccine, tweaked version every year like flue vaccine... and some chance that despite vaccination, one may get COVID anyway...

source...dark web

no matter how awesome it is, a vaccine will not be approved by the FDA until November 5.

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I'm a firm believer that treatment is dramatically improved very soon. There's a number of companies that are working to develop targeted antibody treatment that basically take death off the table for most and help people recover much much quicker. Approval for antibody treatments are much much much less stringent and much safer than a drug.

The Sorrento trials are currently ongoing at Mt Sinai in NY and a buddy of mine is close to a lead researcher. They continue to be giddy over early results. There will be a number of really good treatments very soon, even if all vaccine candidates fail, which is unlikely.

https://www.biospace.com/article/sorrento-ids-antibody-against-covid-19-that-appears-100-percent-effective/

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If this is the case, this would be even better than a vaccine. IMO, by the time we get a vaccine, we will be long through the worst part. Better treatment is key.

In addition, what we really need is simply more beds to let them recover in. Then it wouldn't matter. You prevent the hospitals from being overwhelmed, and you avoid deaths. If tons of people get it? Who cares at that point.

The bigger issue is people to tend those beds

Well, a big part of the reason is mandatory quarantines for staff, right? Even for hospital staff with no symptoms woud who otherwise be okay to work. With better treatment to near 100% effectiveness, the fear of them working would subside IMHO. Better than being short medical staff. JMO, though. I don't have all the answers.

But I agree that we need more medical staff and that's the biggest issue.

The scariest part to me has never been the virus itself. Yeah, i know, it's worse than the flu and it sucks, but in reality the death rate is nowhere near what some thought originally. The scariest part to me is how easily our current system can break down causing chaos in the entire country for a virus that isn't even that deadly.. If we get hit with a truly terrifying virus, watch out. No idea what the ramifications of that will be.

Absolutely encouraging news!