Goodbull_19 said:Infection_Ag11 said:Bonfired said:
BMI needs to be used in conjunction with other measures...it is possible to be a very fit 5'11", 205# person, yet the BMI chart classifies that as very close to obese. The word itself implies slovenly and out of shape, even if it is a medical definition (kind of like idiot and moron used to be in psychology).
When I hear that obesity is a factor, I am guessing that it is probably referring to someone who is obviously not in good physical shape.
BMI is a reliable metric of medical risk related to excess weight in humans with anything resembling a normal body fat to muscle mass ratio. The kind of people who it doesn't work well for are those >2 standard deviations above or below average height, those with extremely high muscle mass and those with extremely low body fat. We're generally talking about elite level athletes and dedicated resistance training groups.
For the average American male, 5'11", 205 makes you about 30 pounds overweight. The issue is not so much with BMI but rather Americans have developed such a skewed idea of what a normal human body looks like. Nearly everyone under 6 feet and over 200 pounds was viewed as unusual and obviously overweight for all of human history prior to the mid-20th century western world. Go look at the average height/weight charts of American and Western European troops from WW1 and WW2 and prepare to be shocked.
The average American (male and female) has put on 30 lbs since 1960.
I am 6'1" and have weighed between 205-215 for most of my adult life. I considered myself "bigger built" but few would have described me as fat.
I have in the last 3 months lost 30 lbs. Now 6'1" and finally truly healthy.
All that to say, I totally agree, our perceptions of "slightly overweight" or "normal" are so skewed
shertown04 said:
I've been super skinny my whole life. I'm 5'8 and have been around 130-140 since high school and all I ever heard was that I need to put some meat on my bones. It didn't matter what I ate I stayed the same size. Started taking some anxiety medication at the end of last year and it made me put on 20 pounds and all of a sudden I'm borderline "obese" according to BMI.
Aggie95 said:
Any of you losers (weight losers) want to share what worked?
From March 12th through May I was walking 4 to 5 miles a day. I lost a few ponds but not much more.
CVP, remdesivir, toci, dexamethasone, anticoagulation all available yes.Big Al 1992 said:
Welp - I guess my O+ doesn't make me Superman.
Standard of Care for those hospitalized is still Remdisivir? How's the availability? If they progress on that, then what?
Aggie95 said:
Any of you losers (weight losers) want to share what worked?
From March 12th through May I was walking 4 to 5 miles a day. I lost a few ponds but not much more.
Big Al 1992 said:
Welp - I guess my O+ doesn't make me Superman.
Standard of Care for those hospitalized is still Remdisivir? How's the availability? If they progress on that, then what?
Evvvery once in awhile if I haven't been getting enough sodium, potassium, or magnesium in my diet. A lot of days I'll make myself a sodium/potassium ("NoSalt") water mix before leaving the house and sip on it throughout the day. Now that I'm use to it and have my diet dialed in, I rarely have issues and stay busy enough at work that half the time lunchtime comes and goes before I realize it. Losing 30lbs and running regularly has also made a big difference in my energy, so there's that factor too.Aggie95 said:
Thanks...i've done the fasting some and can see that it could work.
Do you ever find yourself light-headed/week around normal lunchtime if you haven't eaten since 9pm the previous day?
these areas are nothing like NY and parts of Italy. There is a huge difference. Not saying it can't or won't happen, but let's see if/when NYC starts asking for nurses to show up from all over the country.Sq 17 said:
Bump showing second waves can hit areas that were already hit once
Marcus Aurelius said:
Just saw 29, 33, 33 y/os. Sick. No cormorbids. No one is immune.
raging_agaholic said:Marcus Aurelius said:
Just saw 29, 33, 33 y/os. Sick. No cormorbids. No one is immune.
How many females in this age group? If female, how many are not morbidly obese?
My father played football for A&M in the 20's. He was 5'11" 190 lbs and very very low body fat. He played lineman as he was so stout.Infection_Ag11 said:Goodbull_19 said:Infection_Ag11 said:Bonfired said:
BMI needs to be used in conjunction with other measures...it is possible to be a very fit 5'11", 205# person, yet the BMI chart classifies that as very close to obese. The word itself implies slovenly and out of shape, even if it is a medical definition (kind of like idiot and moron used to be in psychology).
When I hear that obesity is a factor, I am guessing that it is probably referring to someone who is obviously not in good physical shape.
BMI is a reliable metric of medical risk related to excess weight in humans with anything resembling a normal body fat to muscle mass ratio. The kind of people who it doesn't work well for are those >2 standard deviations above or below average height, those with extremely high muscle mass and those with extremely low body fat. We're generally talking about elite level athletes and dedicated resistance training groups.
For the average American male, 5'11", 205 makes you about 30 pounds overweight. The issue is not so much with BMI but rather Americans have developed such a skewed idea of what a normal human body looks like. Nearly everyone under 6 feet and over 200 pounds was viewed as unusual and obviously overweight for all of human history prior to the mid-20th century western world. Go look at the average height/weight charts of American and Western European troops from WW1 and WW2 and prepare to be shocked.
The average American (male and female) has put on 30 lbs since 1960.
I am 6'1" and have weighed between 205-215 for most of my adult life. I considered myself "bigger built" but few would have described me as fat.
I have in the last 3 months lost 30 lbs. Now 6'1" and finally truly healthy.
All that to say, I totally agree, our perceptions of "slightly overweight" or "normal" are so skewed
I'm 5'10, 165 and have been thought of by most as very skinny my entire adult life. My grandfather was 5'11", 170 when joined the Navy in 1942 and was one of the bigger guys he went through training with and said he was never called skinny at any point in his adult life.
It's pretty crazy how different perceptions are
He was a bit older when he had kids (my mom was 10 years younger) so I'm old but not THAT old. Well, yea I am.Big Shoulders said:
Username checks out
just so you know...most of us on the board want to punch you right now.insulator_king said:
I'm 5'10" and about 167. I could lose about 10 lbs to be healthier.
I do walk 45 minutes a day 5 days a week.
Chocolate, Dark is my nemesis.
