Physicians opinions on Dr Kelly Victory's claims

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this is why we have aggie jokes, folks.
ursusguy
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Yikes
Old RV Ag
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Duncan Idaho said:

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I am just at a loss that we have graduates of Texas A&M that believe this

How about this one. And no this post was not made ironically . Apparently, Germ Theory is on the same intellectual plane as homeopathy and alchemy
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3125617/replies/56983433
Same person.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3125518/replies/56980076
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Ironic that someone on that board is complaining about "paranoia"
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Duncan Idaho said:

I got as far as her schrodinger's cat argument against masks.

Mask cause you to rebreath viruses and pollen and that is bad. But masks block viruses and bacteria thereby weakening you immune system, also bad.




She's right. Especially with the underlying point that a vast majority of people (85% per her) will have zero to minor symptoms. Herd Immunity should have been our goal from the start. Well, and not killing 35K+ Americans in Nursing homes.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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When are you and your family going to a corona party to get infected and do your part?
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Old RV Ag said:

aggiematt07 said:

No, but they have published many articles related to the ineffectiveness of masks long before it became a political football.

https://www.jwatch.org/na49865/2019/09/24/n95-mask-flunks-big-clinical-trial

An article like that today would have been thrown out, except that this article was consistent with most all other studies prior to Covid 19.

Search pub Med for any masks article prior to Nov 2019 and they will say the same. Science did not magically improve in the last 8 months that we can definitively say "masks work" end of story. Yet everybody seems to be.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/

CDC, WHO had this stance long before Covid and changed because people cried foul. Same with the AAP backtracking on schools opening. We have gone from trust the science, to use the science to push our message and if you don't like the science then just appeal to the emotions, the opposite of "using" science
Yet, you seemed to have gained more medical knowledge in the last few weeks than all the doctors on here.

Docs, the internet is loaded with info from places like NIH, WHO, CDC that allow a lay person to gain more insight than you might have. Y'all should consider looking into these sources.
So, after reading and studying these sites, where can i get my MD, PhD, edu.com designation with my name?
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Duncan Idaho said:

When are you and your family going to a corona party to get infected and do your part?


We already did...unknowingly. Nephew's High School grad party. He showed symptoms (minor fever) that Saturday night. He has major asthma issues. He was back to normal before he took the positive COVID test Monday am. SIL, BIL, FIL, and myself all showed symptoms within 10 days of hanging out with him. 10 of his buddies from the party all tested positive...<24 hours on minor symptoms. FIL (73, obese, no spleen - high risk) had it the worst. Went downhill on Day 10 of being diagnosed. Fever spiked to 103. O2 levels dropped to 82%. Took him to UT Southwestern where his lungs had taken the infection and he had pneumonia. 24 hours after arrival, they put him on Remdesivir for 3 days and continued giving him supplemental O2. 5 days later he was home and the recovery from pneumonia will take another 5-6 weeks. BIL and SIL fought colds for 1-2 weeks. II had cold symptoms for just over 2 weeks..,. MUCH easier than the flu. I'm 50 in good health. I did some immune system boosting IVs and the Midland doctor "COVID silver Bullet" of bunesidone (AstraZeneca Pulmicort flexhaler) as a preventative for my lungs.

Based on my family's experience (and other friends who got it), she's spot on that this is all about the health of your immune system and equipping it to fight COVID (and any other virus). It truly picks off those with weak immune systems and those who sit back and wait instead of attacking the virus. My FIL did nothing for 10 days after diagnosis.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Duncan, I figured my post might generate a response from you, snarky or otherwise. Don't let me down.
Gig'Em and God Bless,

JB'91
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Glad your family made it out the other side.

A healthy immune system is very important, no one disagrees with that.

The foolish notion is that wearing a mask somehow diminishes your immune system. If people were wearing them 24/7, there MIGHT be an argument. But just the crap you breath in your house is enough to keep your immune system working as it should.
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A healthy immune system is the ONLY thing that matters. Heck, my fellow 50 year "hotty" wife has been around several people with COVID and has shown zippo. I tell her she has the immune system of a race horse.

And I'm not going to battle you on masks. Not a hill I want to die on. I do it out of respect for others, but it really only marginally helps for those people who are sick and not quarantining.

And yes, I'm a believer that the sooner the healthy get this (and 99.999% of the healthy will recover just fine), we can starve this virus - HERD IMMUNITY.

That means the high risk/susceptible need to self-quarantine. And the rest of us need to take care of them (my parents are a perfect example).
Gig'Em and God Bless,

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Keller6Ag91 said:

A healthy immune system is the ONLY thing that matters. Heck, my fellow 50 year "hotty" wife has been around several people with COVID and has shown zippo. I tell her she has the immune system of a race horse.

And I'm not going to battle you on masks. Not a hill I want to die on. I do it out of respect for others, but it really only marginally helps for those people who are sick and not quarantining.

And yes, I'm a believer that the sooner the healthy get this (and 99.999% of the healthy will recover just fine), we can starve this virus - HERD IMMUNITY.

That means the high risk/susceptible need to self-quarantine. And the rest of us need to take care of them (my parents are a perfect example).
Those individuals who are at high risk and susceptible are not a small minority of people. Unfortunately, the stats for the U.S. adults are fairly sobering.
Nearly half of U.S. adults are thought to have hypertension, many of whom do not know that they have it. Of those who do, only approximately 1/4 are well controlled. Approximately 30 million U.S. adults are diabetic, and another 70 million are felt to be prediabetic. The U.S. adult overweight and obesity rate is over 40%. NONE of these things are going to change overnight.
You can look at mortality rates and come up with a figure that does not tell the whole story. Many of those who survive are going to have long-term sequelae of this virus, much of it related to ischemia related to the coagulopathy that the virus can lead to. I do not think anything near 99.999% of the "healthy" will recover just fine, but time will tell. I am not saying that masks are the answer, or that the entire economy needs to be shut down and long term lockdowns need to be instituted. Those policies will lead to deaths in and of themselves. But I do believe that there is potential harm in what this particular physician is spouting off as "fact".
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