Large study from South Korea on transmission from children

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GAC06 said:

What cone said. Shutting down until the virus was gone was never an option. If anything we shut down far too long.
Regardless what your inclination, can we agree the shut down we did do was basically useless since the virus is more rampant then before AND the economy in tatters?
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Yes. It was intended to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming hospitals. Instead we stayed closed and allowed the goalposts to be moved to eradicating the virus
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WoMD said:

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fat girlfriend said:

What I think is hard to figure:

closing schools but leaving restaurants open and playing youth sports and having daycare.
I'm probably skinning this from the opposite side, but yeah the inconsistency is brutal.

Another one: Masks are mandatory in public, but you can take it off and sit in a confined space sharing circulated AC with others if it's inside a restaurant.

It was even dumber in CA - mandatory masks but bars open.

Regardless of what someone thinks about Covid, these mixed-measures are confusing and frustrating. If Covid is a big deal, the restaurants and bars ought to be closed; if it's not, then there's no need for masks... you can't really have it both ways.

Bars are all closed again.


A better example would be when using California (there are so many to be honest) - mandatory masks but "protesting" and rioting outside is still allowed. Thankfully, now inside protesting is no longer allowed, so this should allow us to flatten the curve effectively.

The fact that people here are blaming EVERYTHING except the protests is amazing to me. I just don't get how they can defend this with a straight face.
Who is saying the protests didn't hurt the efforts to contain Covid? I haven't seen that anywhere. Of course they contributed to this situation but to act like California is any worse is silly. Dallas was a **** show, like most large and many small cities across the country.

Here's the question though, people's right to protest is protected and unquestioned in this country. Would you have rather the military be called and pitted against the citizens? I think this is more a factor of picking between two poor choices, watching the virus spread through the protesters or using the military to create a police state. Obviously, the correct choice was made and now we are living with the aftermath.

Nobody should say with a straight face that protests, reopening without hitting markers for success and the stubborn refusal to take basic precautions like masks and social distancing aren't all major contributors.
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GAC06 said:

Yes. It was intended to flatten the curve and avoid overwhelming hospitals. Instead we stayed closed and allowed the goalposts to be moved to eradicating the virus
Nobody expects this virus to be eradicated anytime soon because we seemed to have sat in our thumbs while the economy was closed and are no better prepared for it than before the shut down.
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we absolutely bought time for the hospitals to prep and get PPE in order and get through some key critical trials
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I still have not had luck finding the study of transmission rates of teenagers in Iceland, for what it is worth.

I just saw this summary of school-related SARS-CoV2 research in Science: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/07/school-openings-across-globe-suggest-ways-keep-coronavirus-bay-despite-outbreaks
It links to several reports that I had missed.

It still seems to me that the transmission rates for young kids looks very promising for in-person instruction, but the situation for HS-aged kids is still very murky.

I'm not aware of many places that have had high prevalence of the virus at the same time as open high schools. So, perhaps it's not surprising that there is not a lot of solid info.
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We had some shutdowns, and full protests.
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In Israel where they had outbreaks at schools, seems like secondary schools were more of the issue than primary/elementary. That jives with what some other sources are showing.
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