If Covid 19 is so contagious, why didn't my family get it?

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So about a month ago, my sons girlfriend was diagnosed with Covid-19.

She had been with my family the entire weekend on a trip to San Antonio. We returned on Sunday, she started complaining of a headache and got tested for Covid on Monday.

So we assumed my son would get it for sure. I mean 17 and 18 year olds are certainly were not social distancing prior to her test.

My son was tested a week later and came back negative.

Then when my family recently donated blood we were all negative for antibodies. This was a surprise since we assumed that we must have already had it and been asymptomatic.

If mask orders are so important, then why didn't we get it from her on our trip? The only time we were wearing masks was when they were mandated by the place that we were entering.

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Not sure but look at the Marlins mlb team. Seems pretty contagious in that case.
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Somehow I missed a whole paragraph on my phone
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super spreaders, man
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It must be a hoax.
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Yes the day before she was tested.
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I keep getting hung up on your sharing your hotel room with a teenage girl that is not your daughter.
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Some folks may be infected but not very infectious. It's not clear how common this is. There have been a few papers indicating strong heterogeneity of transmission.

See: https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-67 and https://arxiv.org/pdf/2005.13689.pdf


Also relevant:
  • Japans' strategy has focused on large clusters, possibly associated with super spreaders
  • Google "patient 31" and South Korea.



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BayouRocket said:

So about a month ago, my sons girlfriend was diagnosed with Covid-19.

She had been with my family the entire weekend prior on a Weekend trip to San Antonio. This included her staying in the same hotel room as my wife and I and riding in vehicles with us throughout the weekend. On Sunday she started complaining of a headache and got tested for Covid on Monday.

So we assumed my son would get it for sure. I mean 17 and 18 year olds are certainly were not social distancing prior to her test.

My son was tested a week later and came back negative.

Then when my family recently donated blood we were all negative for antibodies. This was a surprise since we assumed that we must have already had it and been asymptomatic.

If mask orders are so important, then why didn't we get it from her on our trip? The only time we were wearing masks was when they were mandated by the place that we were entering.


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Because this is a crazy ass virus that we have no effing idea what it is doin. However in a few years we will know with 100% certainty what the hell is going on.
Right now we see perfectly healthy no cormobidities get sick and die, we have 90 year olds with all kinds of issues bounce back after a few bad days, we have a birthday with 18 all get it and a college party with 30 and 2 get it. Wtf? No idea and I do not think the Doctors know yet either.
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Sir, you have the demon sperm running inside you.
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There is some evidence that the viral load doesn't really start hitting contagious levels until there's some level of symptoms. So if she started complaining of a headache on Sunday, she might not have been contagious enough earlier in the weekend to spread it.

From the Marlins aspect, I had read that the first pitcher that got diagnosed was pretty sick about the time that he got tested and was still traveling with the team and hanging out in the clubhouse/dugout.
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In the recent South Korea paper that looked at family infections via their extensive contact tracing program, they found that the family infection rate was 11.5%. So it's not so unusual.

As for question of whether or not it is so contagious the R_0 of the virus is estimated to be about 2.5. Other viruses are 10+

That being said, clearly it is infectious. On March 1st we had one confirmed Covid death in the US and 75 confirmed cases. 2 and a half months later 100,000 people have died from the virus, during an unprecedented shut down, and with "only" a 0.3% to 1.0% infection fatality rate.

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BayouRocket said:

So about a month ago, my sons girlfriend was diagnosed with Covid-19.

She had been with my family the entire weekend prior on a Weekend trip to San Antonio. This included her staying in the same hotel room as my wife and I and riding in vehicles with us throughout the weekend. On Sunday she started complaining of a headache and got tested for Covid on Monday.

So we assumed my son would get it for sure. I mean 17 and 18 year olds are certainly were not social distancing prior to her test.

My son was tested a week later and came back negative.

Then when my family recently donated blood we were all negative for antibodies. This was a surprise since we assumed that we must have already had it and been asymptomatic.

If mask orders are so important, then why didn't we get it from her on our trip? The only time we were wearing masks was when they were mandated by the place that we were entering.
You can't assume that someone didn't have it just because they don't test positive for antibodies. A great many people who had it don't test positive.

I had it and my antibody test just over a month later came up negative.
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Your son's girlfriend spent the weekend with y'all...and they are teenagers?
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Was a rude comment. Needed to be removed.
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Windy City Ag said:

I keep getting hung up on your sharing your hotel room with a teenage girl that is not your daughter.


This really stood out to me as well.
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AggieBaseball06 said:

Windy City Ag said:

I keep getting hung up on your sharing your hotel room with a teenage girl that is not your daughter.


This really stood out to me as well.
Well, maybe they use the old fashion bundling bag method...

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Hell its a very common thing in Europe...damn American Puritans
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Windy City Ag said:

I keep getting hung up on your sharing your hotel room with a teenage girl that is not your daughter.
My wife doesn't even like for me to go help the grandkids nanny and she is 27 and I'm as pure as driven snow. (And old).
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People,

Thanks for the replys. that said....

As for the girlfriend staying in our room... it was a suite. She did not share our BED!... She was with my other daughters. Are we supposed to get her a room by herself?

My son and the boys that came along were in another room.

Damn y'all have issues.
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Windy City Ag said:

I keep getting hung up on your sharing your hotel room with a teenage girl that is not your daughter.
They were vacationing on Little Saint James Island
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BayouRocket said:

People,

Thanks for the replys. that said....

As for the girlfriend staying in our room... it was a suite. She did not share our BED!... She was with my other daughters. Are we supposed to get her a room by herself?

My son and the boys that came along were in another room.

Damn y'all have issues.

Yeah, I was a bit shocked how many people were just aghast that your family would bring your son's gf along on a trip -- it's a pretty common thing.
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Proposition Joe said:

BayouRocket said:

People,

Thanks for the replys. that said....

As for the girlfriend staying in our room... it was a suite. She did not share our BED!... She was with my other daughters. Are we supposed to get her a room by herself?

My son and the boys that came along were in another room.

Damn y'all have issues.

Yeah, I was a bit shocked how many people were just aghast that your family would bring your son's gf along on a trip -- it's a pretty common thing.
It wasn't she came along, but it was the way he worded the OP - "the girl was in the same hotel room as he and his wife"
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Understood. I will edit the OP.
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Maybe bc younger people do not transmit it at highs rate. Going with what several studies have shown.
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I've been at work, church, and around people the whole time. If it was that contagious, I would have gotten it but now, but nothing yet.
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Throwing a cigarette out the window and it doesn't cause a fire during a drought... Is the risk of fire really not there? Or did you just get lucky and the cigarette didn't land on something flammable enough before burning out?

Maybe your kid's girlfriend had a low viral load? Maybe she had the infection previously and is just continuing to test positive? Some studies show you may not be infectious until two days prior to showing symptoms, others say you're not infectious until you start showing symptoms, and everything inbetween. So maybe with her showing symptoms after returning, the time you spent together she was not terribly infectious. With the incubation period 2-14 days, if your son was tested a week after exposure maybe he didn't have a sufficient viral load to be positive. Maybe he was a false negative? Maybe he had a low enough viral exposure that he had an asymptomatic infection and wasn't very infectious?

Or maybe all the doctors and scientists are overstating the infectivity of the virus to help with job security.

Just some thoughts.
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Maybe your family has some sort of immunity. Not a doctor and don't understand this but have seen other threads on here report that there may be some sort of t-cell immunity in up to 50% of the population.
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