My wife is high risk(auto immune, non allergic asthma, vit d deficiency) so we've been careful but on the flipside our daughter turns 4 in a few weeks and has not been to daycare or otherwise been able to get much socializing in with other kids.



We don't plan on placing her in daycare anytime soon but we're considering play dates with another kid who is in daycare.



I've seen studies suggesting young kids like my daughter don't spread covid, or they appear to spread at a much lower rate.

Does anyone have any insight into this? We were considering an outside play date where we would all social distance but the two almost 4 year olds will only social distance so well.


Thoughts?

Our elementary school has had a cumulative of three (three!) kids pop hot since school started back in-person at the beginning of September. We have a total of 409 in-person students

There has been a cumulative student exposure of 36 and cumulative employee exposure of 2.

The 3 kids that popped hot have not transmitted the virus to either classmates or teachers.

An "exposure" is a person who came into prolonged contact (15 minutes regardless of mask or social distance) with an infected person.

The kids are required to wear masks while in school, as are faculty and staff.

Leander ISD


EDIT: Prior to that, the daycare our son was in had a couple pop hot and there was no spread in the daycare either. That info may be more relevant to your case.

2 kids with confirmed cases at my kids' elementary school since the return to in person learning. 250ish students are in person.

Same as above: masks for all

My 4th grade daughter just got tested because she had strep symptoms so did the strep test which came back negative and then COVID just to make sure.

Aggie Pharmer said:

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EDIT: Prior to that, the daycare our son was in had a couple pop hot and there was no spread in the daycare either. That info may be more relevant to your case.

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Yes, that's positive news that the kids did not seem to spread it to adults.


There's been info on this for some time, going starting with some data from Europe where several countries who were back at school seemed to show no spread at the younger grades levels.

My wife also has an auto-immune disease (Graves) and is on a pretty high dose of immuno-suppressants.

We've got two kids in elementary school. We opted in to the online option for the first 9 weeks with the attitude that we would likely put them in live school at the 2nd 9 weeks. We didn't want to be early adopters, so to speak. We had already seen evidence from Europe that kids weren't spreaders, but we wanted to do a 'wait and see' considering the US does have a few different factors at play than Europe (one example being higher rates of childhood obesity).

I'm not sure what would've been our threshold for deciding not to put them back, but it was a non-issue. Nothing happened at our school to make us change our plan. Kids went back in mid Oct and we all couldn't be happier with that choice.

Also - even during the summer, we had no issue with outdoor play dates with any child, and occasional indoor play dates with kids from families that we knew were taking similar precautions to us.

Good to know!


I guess the best measure for this scenario would be teachers catching it at a rate above the population

Have ulcerative colitis and take Remicade which is an immunosuppressant. Not only did we decide to send our daughter back when school opened, we also sent our 4 year old back to daycare. Honestly it is totally a personal decision and your wife's condition and health is possibly different than mine. But, my wife and I felt the health of our children was our biggest concern in terms of their ability to socialize and be with other children. Since I do an excellent job staying in shape, we felt that far offset the immunosuppressive effects of the Remicade. Things have gone very well. While there are cases in my daughter's school, it hasn't been alarming at all. I have felt so confident about it that I have decided to change careers and teach and possible strength coach MS or HS and work at a MS in the area. Not sure if that helps at all, but just my experience with all of this and being on an immunosuppressant.

At my daughter's preschool, where I also sub: nothing has happened. Most teachers have their own kids in in-person school. Most parents still work. They don't require masks on the kids once they are in the classroom bubble. They stay in their room or go to recess only. No mixing classes.

At my daughter's Elementary school: there have been two positive cases where the teachers caught it outside of school. Both had known close contacts outside of school come down with and they became symptomatic shortly afterwards. Roughly 50 people were quarantined, no one else got sick. Kids haven't spread it at all or seemed to catch it. We had one elementary school in the district where every Kindergarten teacher got it, but no kids did.

Wish they had started some large studies when schools opened up and compared the infection rates of all school teachers by grade to the local positive rates.


I think we've decided to hold off. Unfortunately my wife has had west Nile since mid July and she's tired of being sick

West Nile is no joke btw.

Outside seems pretty safe in general, especially if you keep a distance from the other adults.

My 5 and 2.5 year olds have been going to their MDO program since September with no masks (teachers wear masks) and so far only 1 teacher at their school had gotten it- no child has.

We also have been letting them play outside with neighbor kids whose ages range from 5-12 and there's a mix who are going to their elem schools or homeschooling. So far, all have been healthy and we're thankful for the socialization they are getting after so much family time when this all went down.

My youngest kid's daycare never shut down. We took him out for a couple of months before we realized the world wasn't coming to an end. He's been back since June. Teachers wear masks, kids do not. 1 positive teacher since March. The kids still exchange snot, boogers, and many other things just like they always have. Send your kid back.

I'm in one of the state's hottest spots.... Amarillo area, Canyon schools.

We are getting notified of 5-6 cases every day in our schools.

Started slow, 1-2 per week in September, starting picking up in October, and now we hardly read the emails because they come all the time. It is very, very widespread in the panhandle right now. I know more families that have had a case than haven't at this point.

If you are driving through on your way skiing, if you are worried about COVID, wear your mask when you stop for bathrooms here. It's everywhere.

Life long asthmatic here. You've got nothing to worry about.

Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

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I'm in one of the state's hottest spots.... Amarillo area, Canyon schools.

We are getting notified of 5-6 cases every day in our schools.

Started slow, 1-2 per week in September, starting picking up in October, and now we hardly read the emails because they come all the time. It is very, very widespread in the panhandle right now. I know more families that have had a case than haven't at this point.

If you are driving through on your way skiing, if you are worried about COVID, wear your mask when you stop for bathrooms here. It's everywhere.

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LOL, we are pulling the 5th wheel up to Palo Duro tomorrow and camping thru Wednesday. Going to hit Walmart and hopefully grab a bite at Feldman's sometime during our stay up there.

Not laughing at the situation there, laughing at our luck.

Clob94 said:

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Life long asthmatic here. You've got nothing to worry about.

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Most asthma patients are allergic asthma. Agree that is not a risk for covid. Its the non allergic thats an issue, plus the autoimmune

Kids all across the world have been in school and daycare since this started in Feb. (earlier if some of the new studies prove true)

There is no huge outbreak among kids. There simply isn't. For kids that do get it... its a cold.

TxAg82 said:

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Kids all across the world have been in school and daycare since this started in Feb. (earlier if some of the new studies prove true)

There is no huge outbreak among kids. There simply isn't. For kids that do get it... its a cold.

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The question is do kids spread it to adults though, not whether they have symptoms or not

My sister is a pediatrician that's sees kids all day and has never stopped.

Her office is seeing zero transfer from young kids to Anyone at the office.

DadHammer said:

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My sister is a pediatrician that's sees kids all day and has never stopped.

Her office is seeing zero transfer from young kids to Anyone at the office.

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Good to know, another point in the kids don't transmit disease to adults column, or at the very least its rare

Jamey, she does not see high school kids so I can't comment on them.

DadHammer said:

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Jamey, she does not see high school kids so I can't comment on them.

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Yeah...I'm just talking young kids, 3 and 4 years old but good clarification


From what I've read HS age kids do spread it