We were going to get tested today but by the time we called the clinic was booked for the day.

2/3 kids started running mild fever this evening.

Going to call first thing to get tested tomorrow.

Wife is freaked. And pissed that I talked her into going to a Thanksgiving gathering.

I may be sleeping on the couch for the foreseeable future, for multiple reasons.

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it's not less deadly than the flu

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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The OP and thread title are so eric

As are the follow ups

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In other words, a very intelligent thread.

For what it's worth, the oldest person at our Thanksgiving Superspread Event tested positive today.

Capitol Ag said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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cone said:

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it's not less deadly than the flu

smh

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old. Especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old. It may have changed though.

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I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Do you really believe that?

SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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cone said:

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it's not less deadly than the flu

smh

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old. Especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old. It may have changed though.

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I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Do you really believe that?

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I absolutely believe that. It hardly effects younger healthy people. Flu is indiscriminate.

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So you would agree with the comment "I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old."?

Really?

Everyone I know who died from it was over 10 years old.

Also as for influenza, some flu outbreaks fall heavy on the young. Some fall heavily on the not so young.

ORAggieFan said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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cone said:

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it's not less deadly than the flu

smh

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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This is incorrect. I believe it was 40 or 50 where covid became more deadly. Can't remember exactly. But 30s and 40s is about the same. 20s and under is less deadly.

beerad12man said:

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eric76 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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cone said:

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it's not less deadly than the flu

smh

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old. Especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old. It may have changed though.

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I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Do you really believe that?

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I absolutely believe that. It hardly effects younger healthy people. Flu is indiscriminate.

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So you would agree with the comment "I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old."?

Really?

Everyone I know who died from it was over 10 years old.

Also as for influenza, some flu outbreaks fall heavy on the young. Some fall heavily on the not so young.

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It is qualified for ages 11-40, yes I think the flu is worse than COVID. Certainly true in my case as well and I'm actually older than 40.

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It used the phrase "especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old" in one place. The general statement made, however, does not limit it to that.

And if you are really picky, hardly anyone ever dies from the influenza virus. What kills people during flu outbreaks is usually not the flu, but opportunistic infections. It's been said that most doctors will never have a patient in their entire career who died from the influenza virus.

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You've been stuck on this forever, and it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Why do you think so many that die with covid have major comorbidities? Either way, it doesn't matter. If that person didn't get covid, they'd likely be alive. If the person who died from an "opportunistic infection" didn't get the flu, they'd be alive. So I'm really not sure of your point. It was still the flu that became dangerous to them and it's semantics at this point.

I still stick by what I said, For anyone under 50(maybe even 60), the flu and covid shouldn't be feared or seen any differently, and are virtually the same for that person. Over 50 is where i think the percentages become noticeable. But on an individual basis. Now, where it differs? Immunity/vaccine. So obviously MORE people will be getting covd than any average flu season. But after an individual catches it? It's virtually the same for 50 and under, and maybe even 60 and under. Can't remember the exact cutoff where the percentages become noticeable.

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Exactly. For me, I am 47 and take an immunosurpressant, but to offset that, I train very hard and consistently and eat very clean. Both the flu and Covid probably have the same chance of killing me, which is probably smaller than getting hit by an asteroid on my way home from work. Do I want either? Hell no. But honestly, I have had the flu and I have had friends with Covid. For some, Covid was like the flu in that it knocked them out for a few days. For a lot more, it was a slight cough and maybe a few headaches and slight fever but honestly, with those symptoms, I'd take a Tylenol and probably be able to do anything I wanted throughout the day. That is a cold or bad allergy day. So while the chance still exists that one could catch Covid and it may spiral out of control, that is still statistically rare and yes, enough to potentially fill some hospitals but at the same time, a good, reasoned approach to the subject shows us that one doesn't need to live in fear of Covid. Looking at your individual situation. And make plans accordingly.

beerad12man said:

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eric76 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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cone said:

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it's not less deadly than the flu

smh

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old. Especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old. It may have changed though.

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I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Do you really believe that?

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I absolutely believe that. It hardly effects younger healthy people. Flu is indiscriminate.

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So you would agree with the comment "I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old."?

Really?

Everyone I know who died from it was over 10 years old.

Also as for influenza, some flu outbreaks fall heavy on the young. Some fall heavily on the not so young.

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It is qualified for ages 11-40, yes I think the flu is worse than COVID. Certainly true in my case as well and I'm actually older than 40.

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It used the phrase "especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old" in one place. The general statement made, however, does not limit it to that.

And if you are really picky, hardly anyone ever dies from the influenza virus. What kills people during flu outbreaks is usually not the flu, but opportunistic infections. It's been said that most doctors will never have a patient in their entire career who died from the influenza virus.

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You've been stuck on this forever, and it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Why do you think so many that die with covid have major comorbidities? Either way, it doesn't matter. If that person didn't get covid, they'd likely be alive. If the person who died from an "opportunistic infection" didn't get the flu, they'd be alive. So I'm really not sure of your point. It was still the flu that became dangerous to them and it's semantics at this point.

I still stick by what I said, For anyone under 50(maybe even 60), the flu and covid shouldn't be feared or seen any differently, and are virtually the same for that person. Over 50 is where i think the percentages become noticeable. But on an individual basis. Now, where it differs? Immunity/vaccine. So obviously MORE people will be getting covd than any average flu season. But after an individual catches it? It's virtually the same for 50 and under, and maybe even 60 and under. Can't remember the exact cutoff where the percentages become noticeable.

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A number of years ago when I was a little past 50, I picked up the flu at a Christmas Eve family dinner. More than a week later, it got much better for a couple of days and then hit me hard again for another couple of weeks. By the end of the couple of weeks, I was showing distinct symptoms of what turned out to be the loss of my thyroid. While it could just be coincidence that my thyroid failed, it seems likely to me that what followed the flu was an opportunistic infection that shut down my thyroid.

Curious how much you and your insurance spent getting your family tested twice.

I've heard of costs from $75 per test to some getting bills for thousands for a test depending on insurance coverage and location of test.

eric76 said:

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beerad12man said:

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eric76 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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SoupNazi2001 said:

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eric76 said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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ORAggieFan said:

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Capitol Ag said:

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cone said:

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it's not less deadly than the flu

smh

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Depends on age demographic. Under 50, from what I have read, the flu is "more deadly". other areas I see 40 years old. And I have seen as old as 65 (not sure on that one obviously). But I think if you are under 45-50, there isn't really that much to worry about if you don't have serious comorbidities with either the flu or Covid. And I am accounting for the risk of long term side effects. I still think the use of the term "long term" when the virus is novel is misleading given we could not know yet and those are still rare overall.

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We've made Covid way too big, but it's worse than the flu for pretty much anyone over 10. Doesn't mean it's worth everything we're doing, just important to know the truth.

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I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old. Especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old. It may have changed though.

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I'm not sure that I'm reading this right. Do you really believe that?

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I absolutely believe that. It hardly effects younger healthy people. Flu is indiscriminate.

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So you would agree with the comment "I haven't seen anywhere that Covid is more deadly for those over 10 years old."?

Really?

Everyone I know who died from it was over 10 years old.

Also as for influenza, some flu outbreaks fall heavy on the young. Some fall heavily on the not so young.

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It is qualified for ages 11-40, yes I think the flu is worse than COVID. Certainly true in my case as well and I'm actually older than 40.

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It used the phrase "especially for age group between 10 and 40 years old" in one place. The general statement made, however, does not limit it to that.

And if you are really picky, hardly anyone ever dies from the influenza virus. What kills people during flu outbreaks is usually not the flu, but opportunistic infections. It's been said that most doctors will never have a patient in their entire career who died from the influenza virus.

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You've been stuck on this forever, and it doesn't mean what you think it means.

Why do you think so many that die with covid have major comorbidities? Either way, it doesn't matter. If that person didn't get covid, they'd likely be alive. If the person who died from an "opportunistic infection" didn't get the flu, they'd be alive. So I'm really not sure of your point. It was still the flu that became dangerous to them and it's semantics at this point.

I still stick by what I said, For anyone under 50(maybe even 60), the flu and covid shouldn't be feared or seen any differently, and are virtually the same for that person. Over 50 is where i think the percentages become noticeable. But on an individual basis. Now, where it differs? Immunity/vaccine. So obviously MORE people will be getting covd than any average flu season. But after an individual catches it? It's virtually the same for 50 and under, and maybe even 60 and under. Can't remember the exact cutoff where the percentages become noticeable.

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A number of years ago when I was a little past 50, I picked up the flu at a Christmas Eve family dinner. More than a week later, it got much better for a couple of days and then hit me hard again for another couple of weeks. By the end of the couple of weeks, I was showing distinct symptoms of what turned out to be the loss of my thyroid. While it could just be coincidence that my thyroid failed, it seems likely to me that what followed the flu was an opportunistic infection that shut down my thyroid.

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An "opportunistic thyroid infection?" LOL, it figures you're probably a webmd expert.

Sir, this is the COVID board.

The urgent care visit for rapid tests ran us a little under $20 a person at the time of the visit, which is supposed to be refunded by insurance since the Families First Coronavirus Response Act requires most insurers to cover 100% of the cost of COVID diagnostic appointments and testing through Jan 21 2021.

The test at Memorial Park run by Curative did not require any upfront payment.

No idea what the cost was to our insurer.