2 month immunity from Pfizer vaccine?

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https://www.fox46.com/coronavirus/coronavirus-in-north-carolina/vaccine-will-keep-you-immune-for-2-months-ncdhhs-says/

seems like an unwise thing to say if you are trying to encourage people to get the vaccine...
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Didn't read the article but 2 months?? That's troubling. Almost a what's the point feel then. Are you going to need it every 2 months? Heck, it's gonna take 7 months for most people to get it.
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Yeah, that's just dumb.
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Sounds like it was an off hand comment by the NC health services secretary. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it.
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What she said was they know for sure it will last at least two months. It was a really dumb thing to say. The likelihood is that it will confer immunity for much, much longer than that.

People are now running with this idiotic misrepresentation of what she said and are claiming that the vaccine only lasts two months. Not what she said at all. But auntie Gertrude and cousin Karen are going to post this on Facebook and even more people will refuse to be vaccinated.

I swear to God our population is unbelievably dumb.
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Cactus Jack said:

What she said was they know for sure it will last at least two months. It was a really dumb thing to say. The likelihood is that it will confer immunity for much, much longer than that.

People are now running with this idiotic misrepresentation of what she said and are claiming that the vaccine only lasts two months. Not what she said at all. But auntie Gertrude and cousin Karen are going to post this on Facebook and even more people will refuse to be vaccinated.

I swear to God our population is unbelievably dumb.


And our leadership has done a terrible job messaging this, both sides of the isle. So much trust has been shattered by both parties it was always going to be an uphill battle for messaging with the vaccine. Not being careful with word choice is an unforced error.

This ain't a political post by the way. The hospitals have really done a good job with their messaging for the most part. Other leaders haven't in all areas outside of hospitals.
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Cactus Jack said:

What she said was they know for sure it will last at least two months. It was a really dumb thing to say. The likelihood is that it will confer immunity for much, much longer than that.

People are now running with this idiotic misrepresentation of what she said and are claiming that the vaccine only lasts two months. Not what she said at all. But auntie Gertrude and cousin Karen are going to post this on Facebook and even more people will refuse to be vaccinated.

I swear to God our population is unbelievably dumb.


Great! Maybe some of us will be able to get our vaccination sooner???
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Cactus Jack said:

I swear to God our population is unbelievably dumb.
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hoosierAG
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samsal75 said:

Cactus Jack said:

What she said was they know for sure it will last at least two months. It was a really dumb thing to say. The likelihood is that it will confer immunity for much, much longer than that.

People are now running with this idiotic misrepresentation of what she said and are claiming that the vaccine only lasts two months. Not what she said at all. But auntie Gertrude and cousin Karen are going to post this on Facebook and even more people will refuse to be vaccinated.

I swear to God our population is unbelievably dumb.


Great! Maybe some of us will be able to get our vaccination sooner???


And every two months!
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And what a stupid thing for an official to say regardless, along with the media and their headline. Perfect summation of why we are where we are right now.

And I've already had covid and will get the vaccine as soon as possible (and ironically live in N.C.). But the leadership, the messaging, and the general public has been a complete sheet show.
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What a terrible press conference and misrepresented info. Unreal. What should be said is that we don't know how long immunity will last because the vaccine trials just lasted several mos. I cannot believe the health officials in that state or nationally allow people to spew info in this manner.
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Dumb thing to say, especially with anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers out there looking to grab on to anything that validates their point of view.

Then again, I've come to expect these sorts of things from our elected officials, so . . .
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The article states "Two months is how long the state of North Carolina says you're guaranteed protection against COVID-19 when you get the shot."

The video doesn't show an official saying that. They are referencing the North Carolina website that states:

"For how long will the vaccine protect me from COVID?

Since the Pfizer trial just ended, we know that it can protect people from COVID illness for at least two months. We'll know even more about how long the immunity from the vaccine lasts as people have been vaccinated for a longer period of time."

No one says it is expected to stop working after two months. Just more BS from people activity trying to misconstrue anything about the vaccine.
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Marcus Aurelius said:

What a terrible press conference and misrepresented info. Unreal. What should be said is that we don't know how long immunity will last because the vaccine trials just lasted several mos. I cannot believe the health officials in that state or nationally allow people to spew info in this manner.


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don't pin this **** up on the gen pop

our public health messaging is complete trash
GAC06
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I bet that fox station got a lot of clicks though
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We live in an ADD sound byte and headline only world. Our news is consumed by one liners and click bait, along with tweets. We are screwed until this fad phases out, if it ever does, or we replace it with something more substantial. One idiot, or one slip of the tongue nowadays is like 10 million Jenny McCarthy's playing doctor/scientist.
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Politics board having a field day with this. Of course, they all believe it.
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I made this point today to someone who was convinced the the vaccine was dangerous.

If it's dangerous we are screwed because all our doctors will be dead from taking the vaccine first.

Didn't seem to help.
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KlinkerAg11 said:

I made this point today to someone who was convinced the the vaccine was dangerous.

If it's dangerous we are screwed because all our doctors will be dead from taking the vaccine first.

Didn't seem to help.


People already think we're lying about taking the vaccine and getting individual kickbacks from Pfizer for saying we did. You can't reason with that level of delusion.
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Marcus Aurelius
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All 7 pulmonologists in my practice clamoring to get the vaccine. If that doesn't tell you something then I don't know what to say. People will believe what they want.
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Marcus Aurelius said:

All 7 pulmonologists in my practice clamoring to get the vaccine. If that doesn't tell you something then I don't know what to say. People will believe what they want.
I'm sure that can get infected today. Why wait! Glad you are over this and back at work doc.
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Maybe because all 7 pulmonologists are smart enough to realize vaccine side effects <<<<<< actual coronavirus effects????

People it's simple - the vaccine has risks. They just are way less than the alternative
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pocketrockets06 said:

Maybe because all 7 pulmonologists are smart enough to realize vaccine side effects <<<<<< actual coronavirus effects????

People it's simple - the vaccine has risks. They just are way less than the alternative


Everything has risk, technically speaking. Walking down the stairs of your house carries risk but it's so minimal that for all intents and purposes nobody considers coming down the stairs risky. Well vaccines are exponentially less risky than that, statistically speaking. The number of people seriously injured in stairwells is three orders of magnitude greater than the annual rate of severe vaccine complications (nearly all of which are non-life threatening/non-lethal).

The problem is our powers of perception are so flawed that it requires a lot of data to overcome. We will ALWAYS perceive new and unique actions as riskier than routine ones, and especially so when a segment of society has already attributed nefarious intentions to the action in question.
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cone
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the last thing you want to do with skeptics is talk down to them or dismiss them as rubes

put on a brave happy face and tell them how it works

treating them like benighted deplorables just hardens their resolve
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That said, even though I'm not overly concerned, I can understand why some olds might be worried after the 1976 Swine Flu vaccine debacle :

https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/the-public-health-legacy-of-the-1976-swine-flu-outbreak
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cone said:

don't pin this **** up on the gen pop

our public health messaging is complete trash

I think I've got it figured based on the messaging. Let me explain:
The vaccine takes two doses and six weeks to work.
The side effects will be horrible for most people, unlike the virus.
The effect lasts an additional two weeks.
The effect is that you can still get infected.
And you can still transmit the virus.

Did I miss anything.
cone
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I don't think the side effects will be horrible based on the released safety data and whatever side effects seem to depart in 24 hours

you might get a fever of 100 later that day after the second shot, but you won't have the potential for lung sequelae.
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cone said:

I don't think the side effects will be horrible based on the released safety data and whatever side effects seem to depart in 24 hours

you might get a fever of 100 later that day after the second shot, but you won't have the potential for lung sequelae.

Is this the ability to breathe underwater? I was promised mutant abilities.
normaleagle05
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I'm trying to highlight my agreement with your assessment as to how bad the messaging is.

You're making it really tough to do.
cone
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oh wow sorry

now I'm on your level
Infection_Ag11
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normaleagle05 said:

cone said:

don't pin this **** up on the gen pop

our public health messaging is complete trash

I think I've got it figured based on the messaging. Let me explain:
The vaccine takes two doses and six weeks to work.
The side effects will be horrible for most people, unlike the virus.
The effect lasts an additional two weeks.
The effect is that you can still get infected.
And you can still transmit the virus.

Did I miss anything.


Part of it is the messaging, but another part is the credulity and/or willingness to accept anything at face value that matches a given narrative.

A good example is the Bell's palsy cases in the vaccine trials. Even a superficial reading and understanding of the information reveals that there is no reason to infer a causative association at this time, but millions have latched onto that narrative and run with it.
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cone
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the vacc arm of the Pfizer trial didn't look great when it came to Bell's palsy

we can say that in good faith, right?
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cone said:

the vacc arm of the Pfizer trial didn't look great when it came to Bell's palsy

we can say that in good faith, right?


What were the numbers on that?
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Goose61 said:

Dumb thing to say, especially with anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers out there looking to grab on to anything that validates their point of view.

Then again, I've come to expect these sorts of things from our elected officials, so . . .


Vaccines work. Masks are political theater.
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