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if homes are the major vector, it has to get into the homes somehow

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It gets into the homes by sick people visiting the home, who picked it up from visiting another sick person.

In my sister's case, her friend caught it in the hospital. She then proceeded to infect everyone who visited her after her surgery. Then the people that visited her went home and spread it to their households (my sister's entire family caught it from her). So the original infection occurred in the hospital, but it spread to a bunch of households through in-home visits.

When you crunch the numbers - the vast majority of people in my sister's case got it from household spread, even if the original infection occurred in the hospital. I think this is where you get something like 80%+ transmission from household spread.

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GE said:

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Sad. Hopefully we get better at curing it.

What's the obesity range you're seeing here? There are a lot of degrees of fat between the initial cutoff for obese BMI and bedridden. You're talking something like 40% of Americans here. Do you refer to closer to the most obese 10% of that 40% or an even mixture across the 40%?

Age range?

Sorry for all the questions but it seems relevant.

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Sorry for delay. Been a ***** weekend. I'm talking BMIs > 40 (defining morbid obesity. BMI 30-40 is obese). Not bedridden massively morbidly obese (my ex partner loved to say that.) All ages. Ton of 50 somethings dying this week.

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Hopefully we can put the fat acceptance movement to bed along with the idea that you can be morbidly obese and healthy.

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Hey, $30 trillion debt is okay, so why not an extra hundy around the belt?

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Gumby said:

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Marcus Aurelius said:

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GE said:

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Sad. Hopefully we get better at curing it.

What's the obesity range you're seeing here? There are a lot of degrees of fat between the initial cutoff for obese BMI and bedridden. You're talking something like 40% of Americans here. Do you refer to closer to the most obese 10% of that 40% or an even mixture across the 40%?

Age range?

Sorry for all the questions but it seems relevant.

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Sorry for delay. Been a ***** weekend. I'm talking BMIs > 40 (defining morbid obesity. BMI 30-40 is obese). Not bedridden massively morbidly obese (my ex partner loved to say that.) All ages. Ton of 50 somethings dying this week.

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Hopefully we can put the fat acceptance movement to bed along with the idea that you can be morbidly obese and healthy.

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Being home for the holidays, I've been watching alot more of the morning shows (GMA, etc) and they don't talk about obesity being an issue at all. More "stay at home", masks, stuff than anything , and of course the case numbers. Same information that's been beaten into the ground for months.

It's too bad, that's the demo for reaching the people that need to hear this. But they're all about fluff and feelings, so it's really unfortunate.

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Telling people to push away from the table and take a walk is about as popular as the N-word.

Marcus Aurelius said:

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Over half our ICU beds now COVID. The mortality rate once a COVID patient requires a ventilator basically 100%. Obesity obesity obesity. Why this virus loves to kill these people is a mystery. Depressing.

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Doc isn't there more to this? My connection to the front lines is an ER doc in Austin. He's very open that not only is morbid obesity nearly 100% in play, but that nearly 100% of ICU admits and deaths are Mexican Nationals and African Americans (deaths outside of elderly nursing home transfers).

Everyone rushes to announce the random death of a young and healthy person when those are statistically irrelevant. Why is almost nobody talking about this?