Why is vaccine distribution moving so slow?

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SBISA Victim
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14 million doses delivered to states, yet less than 3 million people have received their first dose?
PJYoung
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Because the government is involved.
Year of the Germaphobe
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Have you ever been to the DMV...
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Saw this just a few minutes ago:
"On Wednesday, Dr. Peter Hotez, a vaccine scientist at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, said Texas and the federal government have made the process too complicated and need to consider setting up tents in larger cities and just running as many people through them as possible.

For the state to achieve herd immunity by the middle of 2021, it'll need to vaccinate nearly 1 million people a week and so far, officially, it's only gotten shots to just more than 200,000 people, Hotez said in an interview.
Texas and federal agencies relied too much on pharmacy chains that lack the capacity to do mass vaccinations, while being "really fussy on who to vaccinate and when," he said."
Dallas Morning News

As I mentioned on here yesterday, we spent two hours yesterday contacting providers listed on the DSHS website. They were all out. Their phone systems and the people answering them were overwhelmed. I don't know the answer, but someone needs to figure this out.

Tarrant County seems to be doing a good job, but I'm not sure anyone else is.
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I am in Tarrant county and can't get the vaccine. I did sign up on their website, but so far do not even have the email that supports that. And like I said on another thread, once Monday hits I am back in school with no time to chase down leads.

Hey make it simple. Make it free to everyone. No time to do insurance checks. Have centers like they did for the Salk vaccine when I was a child or like the many drive up testing centers. Use an app to get critical information and vaccinate as many in the authorized groups possible every day.
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I agree with that. They are too worried about who to vaccinate. Just start vaccinating anybody who wants it and get the process moving as fast as possible.
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dshs site says it's free and insurance status is irrelevant

Edit: tho it seems that providers are treating that site as "recommendations" at this point...
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When did you sign up? I've heard of people who signed up yesterday then received an appointment time last night.
Keep an eye on this site and Tarrant County's site. If it were me, I would check before work, at lunch, at conference, after work, and each evening. It does look like Arlington and Tarrant County are setting up mass vaccinations and will do so again as soon as they have supply.
I'm going to keep up with their registration openings as best I can for a few family members. If you want to PM me your email address or phone number, I'm happy to contact you if registration opens up again for Arlington.


Dallas County is still distributing to healthcare workers. They're hoping to have a 1B plan "soon." I don't really have issue with that as long as soon really is soon.
Denton County Health held a drive-through vaccination event yesterday, but they ran out.
Collin County is still pretending that the virus doesn't exist. We don't even have a dashboard or a plan to distribute to the public as far as I can tell.
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Getting 3 million people signed up/vaccinated within a week on either side of Xmas is pretty incredible, imho.

Healthcare+government=it takes a while. There will be a huge inventory of vaccine supply sitting unused within a month. Also, the whole country isn't as scared of the virus as this forum is.
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Our local (Nueces) County health department set up a drive thru situation at the fairgrounds and did several hundred vaccs on Monday. Haven't followed to see if they did it subsequent days. Seems much more efficient than having to make an appt at HEB as Dr. Hotez says. But why not both. Just need to ensure counties have the resources.
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I signed up yesterday morning. It said we would get an confirmation email and that never came. I will try again. It says I have to wait 48 hours for confirmation before applying again.
Duncan Idaho
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I am old enough to remember when a certain demographic mocked a certain national figure for suggesting that there needed to be a detailed plan to get the shots from the freezer to someone's arm?

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Dos Tasadores De TAMU said:

Have you ever been to the DMV...


The DMV supercenter in Rosenberg is very efficient as well as the online scheduling.
Aggie95
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this certainly won't help

Philip J Fry
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My take is this ridiculous rollout developed by the bureaucrats and get it in the hands of private business to dole out. No phase 1A or 1B bull*****
Duncan Idaho
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That should be at a count of manslaughter.

500 doses = 250 people vaccinated

.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.
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Duncan Idaho said:

That should be at a count of manslaughter.

500 doses = 250 people vaccinated

.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.

Agree, messed up. And probably even higher given these doses were targeted to more vulnerable.
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I think they should split the allocations.

Half go by age, and every week they say what age group can go.

Half go to first responders, going with older ones first.

Have a website where you put in your age and group, and it gives you an appointment.
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Probably wanted to keep his/her dance moves trending on TikTok
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Quote:

.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.
Spoiled vaxxes have a higher death rate than covid?
cone
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the problem with elevating HCWs and essential workers above the older populations is that, to be frank, that's not where the demand is

so when do you call it and move on

How long do you allow that tranche to take the bite of the apple

as soon as Texas opened it up to 65+ phones started ringing off the hook - it's total chaos but to be honest that's what we kinda want. it's better than ordered unwillingness.
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Duncan Idaho said:

That should be at a count of manslaughter.

500 doses = 250 people vaccinated

.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.
Please, this is insanity. Healthcare workers screw up daily just like the rest of us. .5 percent death rate is (a) fake, and (b) you're assuming falsehoods such as an infection rate, as well as that all 500 of the first doses would have been used anyway. All processes have waste, and 99.9 percent of those with covid survive.

HAI is one of the leading killers in the US, and has been for years. Healthcare is often dirty and sloppy, especially for the elderly. Manslaughter? LOL.
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Duncan Idaho said:

That should be at a count of manslaughter.

500 doses = 250 people vaccinated

.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.
Is that math right? That seems awfully high. Wasn't the headline the other day one in 1000 people have died, and that was some sort of threshold?
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Mistakes happen all the time...
IIRC, 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors of which about 100,000 are related to infections and diseases received while physically inside healthcare facilities.
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tysker said:

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.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.
Spoiled vaxxes have a higher death rate than covid?

.5% is probably low for the intended target of those 500 vaccines. (At risk, elderly and front line)
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"The complexities of this plan for vaccine storage and handling will have major impact in our ability to efficiently deliver the vaccine," Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said at a CDC panel in August.

Hth.

Freezer problems is why.
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Duncan Idaho said:

tysker said:

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.5% death rate 1.25 dead people as a result.
Spoiled vaxxes have a higher death rate than covid?

.5% is probably low for the intended target of those 500 vaccines. (At risk, elderly and front line)
You're making a **** ton of assumptions about the recipients but also the actions of the recipients which would necessitate them to become infected and then die from covid over the next 30 days before receiving the second shot.
Duncan Idaho
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It wasn't a screw up. It was done intentionally.
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Did you receive a notification yet? We've gotten an email, text, and phone call.
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WarAGle said:

14 million doses delivered to states, yet less than 3 million people have received their first dose?


I don't know, but the US is the unquestioned very best in the world at public health, so I'm sure it can't be a glitch in any public health matter.
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cc_ag92 said:

Did you receive a notification yet? We've gotten an email, text, and phone call.


Be prepared for about an hour long wait in line tomorrow.
3rd Generation Ag
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No notification. Will try again tomorrow.
Aggie95
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Update...arrest made

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/31/952536531/pharmacist-arrested-accused-of-destroying-more-than-500-moderna-vaccine-doses
spherical
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Oof- he wasn't trying to destroy vaccine because he thought it was bad or something... he wanted people to think they had been vaccinated. Wow
McKinney Ag
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That MFer should rot in jail.
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