Life after vaccine

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My 89 year old mom is getting her 2nd dose of vaccine.

After a few weeks, what do you think she can do reasonably safe. She's in Dallas.

Would she be ok going to church inside?

What can a younger person do safely after they've had the vaccine?

Case counts are dropping, do I figure it's going to be pretty safe to do a lot of things.

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1:59p, 2/27/21
Anything she wants. Live out your life!
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My 92-YO MIL is fully vaccinated (2 weeks after 2nd shot)...

She is leaving her assisted living home today for the first time since the COVID shutdown last March to have lunch with grandchildren and great grandchildren. She is the only one in that group that has been vaccinated. Despite all of the teeth gnashing and masking hysteria, I am not worried in the least about her safety with regard to COVID.

My wife and I (both in 1B) are fully vaccinated as of today. We are going to go to COSTCO to celebrate! We may also go to the grocery store, too. Exciting! We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
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In reply to ORAggieFan • 2:05p, 2/27/21
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ORAggieFan said:
Anything she wants. Live out your life!
AGREE
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2:13p, 2/27/21
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Is waiting two weeks after second shot really necessary? I read that study from the Pfizer data and it was 92.6% effective in the week prior to shot 2, and 94.8% two weeks after second shot.
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Live her life! Is it possible to get it? Technically, but she should be entirely protected from severe covid. And tomorrow has never been guaranteed. It would be a shame at that age to waste any more time not doing the things she enjoys once vaccinated
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In reply to buffalo chip • 2:44p, 2/27/21
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buffalo chip said:
ORAggieFan said:
At 89 and vaccinated why in the hell would she not do anything she wanted to do?
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In reply to Tabasco • 8:56p, 2/27/21
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Is waiting two weeks after second shot really necessary? I read that study from the Pfizer data and it was 92.6% effective in the week prior to shot 2, and 94.8% two weeks after second shot.
Not that high for the 65+ crowd, but practically the same. My wife and I made a personal decision for ourselves, based on what we heard and read about the Moderna vaccine. Who knows? Fauci and the CDC change their minds as often as I change my underwear. Who can you believe? Personal decision that I take personal responsibility for...

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In reply to buffalo chip • 6:52p, 2/28/21
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buffalo chip said:
My 92-YO MIL is fully vaccinated (2 weeks after 2nd shot)...

She is leaving her assisted living home today for the first time since the COVID shutdown last March to have lunch with grandchildren and great grandchildren. She is the only one in that group that has been vaccinated. Despite all of the teeth gnashing and masking hysteria, I am not worried in the least about her safety with regard to COVID.

My wife and I (both in 1B) are fully vaccinated as of today. We are going to go to COSTCO to celebrate! We may also go to the grocery store, too. Exciting! We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
You haven't been to COSTCO or a grocery store in a year?
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She's 89. It's not like she has very many years left anyway. Make them count.
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In reply to buffalo chip • 8:05p, 2/28/21
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buffalo chip said:
We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?

I have tried to follow the guidelines and wear a mask, and socially distance, and cut down travel. I have been waiting my "2 more weeks" for over a year now. But after I am vaccinated I am pretty much going back to life before COVID. I had plenty of respect for others before this happened. I will have plenty of respect without wearing a mask.
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In reply to TxAg82 • 7:02a, 3/1/21
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TxAg82 said:
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?


How do others know you've been vaccinated? So from their POV, they have to determine whether they should give you a wide berth because your an "I don't care about others anti-masker" or an "I'm safe now."

Seems easier to me to keep it while there's others around who I don't know. I really don't get how it's been a big burden (though I guess my attitude might change as the weather gets warmer).
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In reply to TxAg82 • 7:15a, 3/1/21
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TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?

I have tried to follow the guidelines and wear a mask, and socially distance, and cut down travel. I have been waiting my "2 more weeks" for over a year now. But after I am vaccinated I am pretty much going back to life before COVID. I had plenty of respect for others before this happened. I will have plenty of respect without wearing a mask.


I would consider it respectful to me if you would take your mask off. I enjoy seeing people's faces throughout the day.

As for OP's mom, the only guarantee she has in life is that she will die. No point living out that guarantee in isolation.
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In reply to rynning • 8:03a, 3/1/21
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rynning said:
buffalo chip said:
My 92-YO MIL is fully vaccinated (2 weeks after 2nd shot)...

She is leaving her assisted living home today for the first time since the COVID shutdown last March to have lunch with grandchildren and great grandchildren. She is the only one in that group that has been vaccinated. Despite all of the teeth gnashing and masking hysteria, I am not worried in the least about her safety with regard to COVID.

My wife and I (both in 1B) are fully vaccinated as of today. We are going to go to COSTCO to celebrate! We may also go to the grocery store, too. Exciting! We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
You haven't been to COSTCO or a grocery store in a year?
Almost... Relied on curbside delivery
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In reply to speck • 8:10a, 3/1/21
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speck said:
TxAg82 said:
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?


How do others know you've been vaccinated? So from their POV, they have to determine whether they should give you a wide berth because your an "I don't care about others anti-masker" or an "I'm safe now."

Seems easier to me to keep it while there's others around who I don't know. I really don't get how it's been a big burden (though I guess my attitude might change as the weather gets warmer).
America will never be 100% vaccinated. This philosophy will lead to never ever taking masks off. At some point we've got to move on.
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In reply to speck • 8:19a, 3/1/21
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speck said:
TxAg82 said:
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?


How do others know you've been vaccinated? So from their POV, they have to determine whether they should give you a wide berth because your an "I don't care about others anti-masker" or an "I'm safe now."

Seems easier to me to keep it while there's others around who I don't know. I really don't get how it's been a big burden (though I guess my attitude might change as the weather gets warmer).


I'm an "I don't wear a mask because I'm not sick so you don't have to worry about me". You accidentally left that option off your list.
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In reply to TxAg82 • 8:19a, 3/1/21
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TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?

I have tried to follow the guidelines and wear a mask, and socially distance, and cut down travel. I have been waiting my "2 more weeks" for over a year now. But after I am vaccinated I am pretty much going back to life before COVID. I had plenty of respect for others before this happened. I will have plenty of respect without wearing a mask.
I agree with the response posted by Speck, +

I will modify our masks to make it as comfortable for me and and Mrs Chip as possible. No filters, very little fabric...
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In reply to 88planoAg • 8:23a, 3/1/21
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speck said:
TxAg82 said:
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?


How do others know you've been vaccinated? So from their POV, they have to determine whether they should give you a wide berth because your an "I don't care about others anti-masker" or an "I'm safe now."

Seems easier to me to keep it while there's others around who I don't know. I really don't get how it's been a big burden (though I guess my attitude might change as the weather gets warmer).
America will never be 100% vaccinated. This philosophy will lead to never ever taking masks off. At some point we've got to move on.
As with most absolute statements, I disagree. At some point, most of us will move on. You will be a trendsetter. Others will follow suit when they feel comfortable to do so.
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In reply to speck • 8:32a, 3/1/21
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speck said:
TxAg82 said:
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?


How do others know you've been vaccinated? So from their POV, they have to determine whether they should give you a wide berth because your an "I don't care about others anti-masker" or an "I'm safe now."

Seems easier to me to keep it while there's others around who I don't know. I really don't get how it's been a big burden (though I guess my attitude might change as the weather gets warmer).


I plan on getting an armband with the Covid sphereoid on it with Vaccinated in red diagonal through it.
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In reply to buffalo chip • 10:07a, 3/1/21
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buffalo chip said:
TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?

I have tried to follow the guidelines and wear a mask, and socially distance, and cut down travel. I have been waiting my "2 more weeks" for over a year now. But after I am vaccinated I am pretty much going back to life before COVID. I had plenty of respect for others before this happened. I will have plenty of respect without wearing a mask.
I agree with the response posted by Speck, +

I will modify our masks to make it as comfortable for me and and Mrs Chip as possible. No filters, very little fabric...
Then it is no longer a mask. Its just a prop.
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As soon as the vaccine is available like the flu vaccine to just walk in and take then all restrictions need to lift. At that point it is individual responsibility and not a pandemic. You choose your risk.
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In reply to TxAg82 • 11:49a, 3/1/21
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TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?

I have tried to follow the guidelines and wear a mask, and socially distance, and cut down travel. I have been waiting my "2 more weeks" for over a year now. But after I am vaccinated I am pretty much going back to life before COVID. I had plenty of respect for others before this happened. I will have plenty of respect without wearing a mask.
I agree with the response posted by Speck, +

I will modify our masks to make it as comfortable for me and and Mrs Chip as possible. No filters, very little fabric...
Then it is no longer a mask. Its just a prop.
Yes, you are correct. It will probably save me from harassment or abuse by somebody as pro-mask as you are anti... To each his own. I do respect the decision you are looking forward to making. You seem to lack respect for my personal decision. Whatever...
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I have plenty of respect for you personal decisions. And everyone elses. I am asking why we should wear masks after vaccines. You have answered to make others feel safe. Thank you for your answer. There is no reason to yell at me.
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This virus is endemic now. It's never going away. But life has to go back to normal at some point, and as far as I can tell, there's no better treatment or prevention options on the horizon than the vaccines, which, thankfully, are very effective.

Once the last couple of my high-risk family member get the vaccine, my guard will be coming way down. Once the rest of my healthy family members and I have had it, we will all be 100% back to normal. At that point this virus just something we have to live with and accept as a risk of daily life.

I will continue to wear masks without argument where required by private business owners out of respect for their private property rights, and their employees. And just not to be an A hole to someone trying to do their job. But that has more to do with manners and common courteousy than anything.
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In reply to John Francis Donaghy • 12:07p, 3/1/21
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John Francis Donaghy said:
This virus is endemic now. It's never going away. But life has to go back to normal at some point, and as far as I can tell, there's no better treatment or prevention options on the horizon than the vaccines, which, thankfully, are very effective.

Once the last couple of my high-risk family member get the vaccine, my guard will be coming way down. Once the rest of my healthy family members and I have had it, we will all be 100% back to normal. At that point this virus just something we have to live with and accept as a risk of daily life.

I will continue to wear masks without argument where required by private business owners out of respect for their private property rights, and their employees. And just not to be an A hole to someone trying to do their job. But that has more to do with manners and common courteousy than anything.
This is very much how I feel.
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12:07p, 3/1/21
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The vaccine is way more effective than three masks could ever be. You did your part by getting the vaccine. Now it's time to unmask and live life normally.

The stupid thing about all of this is that people aren't usually getting Covid in public places like stores anyway. Your mask isn't helping now and wasn't helping then. It's all just a show and always has been. Most of the spread has been in places where people gather with no masks and spend a significant amount of time together indoors.
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In reply to coolerguy12 • 1:03p, 3/1/21
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coolerguy12 said:
I'm an "I don't wear a mask because I'm not sick so you don't have to worry about me". You accidentally left that option off your list.


I didn't leave that off an accident. There was an "I'm not sick, so you don't have to worry about me" at a socially distanced luncheon my wife attended that ended up quarantining several families over Christmas, infected 3 more people, sent one to the hospital for 2 weeks who's still on oxygen and hopes to be able to walk across the room by summertime.

Wear the mask because you care about your fellow human beings.
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Nah
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In reply to TxAg82 • 3:14p, 3/1/21
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Ha! I bolded the respect line in your post and then did so in mine, so you could see of which I spoke.

My apologies...
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Now, we all can agree. Well said.
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In reply to speck • 3:24p, 3/1/21
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Solid Corona-bro rant right there.

Just solid.

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In reply to speck • 3:25p, 3/1/21
speck said:
coolerguy12 said:
I'm an "I don't wear a mask because I'm not sick so you don't have to worry about me". You accidentally left that option off your list.


I didn't leave that off an accident. There was an "I'm not sick, so you don't have to worry about me" at a socially distanced luncheon my wife attended that ended up quarantining several families over Christmas, infected 3 more people, sent one to the hospital for 2 weeks who's still on oxygen and hopes to be able to walk across the room by summertime.

Wear the mask because you care about your fellow human beings.
There's no evidence that masks work at a large scale. You can look at chart after chart after chart comparing states with mask mandates and masks do absolutely nothing.

Stop using emotion to justify anything you do.
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In reply to buffalo chip • 3:35p, 3/1/21
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buffalo chip said:
TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
TxAg82 said:
buffalo chip said:
We plan to stay masked out of respect for others (not because masking is necessary)j.
I am not trying to be critical, but I am curious how wearing a mask that serves no purpose (assuming the vaccines work and you are no longer a threat to spread the disease) is respectful to others?

I have tried to follow the guidelines and wear a mask, and socially distance, and cut down travel. I have been waiting my "2 more weeks" for over a year now. But after I am vaccinated I am pretty much going back to life before COVID. I had plenty of respect for others before this happened. I will have plenty of respect without wearing a mask.
I agree with the response posted by Speck, +

I will modify our masks to make it as comfortable for me and and Mrs Chip as possible. No filters, very little fabric...
Then it is no longer a mask. Its just a prop.
Yes, you are correct. It will probably save me from harassment or abuse by somebody as pro-mask as you are anti... To each his own. I do respect the decision you are looking forward to making. You seem to lack respect for my personal decision. Whatever...
I've yet to see an anti mask person get up in someone's face for wearing one yelling at them to take it off. So you have that right.
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In reply to John Francis Donaghy • 3:37p, 3/1/21
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John Francis Donaghy said:
This virus is endemic now. It's never going away. But life has to go back to normal at some point, and as far as I can tell, there's no better treatment or prevention options on the horizon than the vaccines, which, thankfully, are very effective.

Once the last couple of my high-risk family member get the vaccine, my guard will be coming way down. Once the rest of my healthy family members and I have had it, we will all be 100% back to normal. At that point this virus just something we have to live with and accept as a risk of daily life.

I will continue to wear masks without argument where required by private business owners out of respect for their private property rights, and their employees. And just not to be an A hole to someone trying to do their job. But that has more to do with manners and common courteousy than anything.
Also depends on the situation. Are they requiring masks because that is how they feel, or because of social obligation and/or legal pressure?

If they don't really care/enforce it, I won't be wearing one then, either. Even if they technically have it as a rule.

Of course, this is how I feel even before getting the vaccine, let alone after.
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In reply to beerad12man • 4:09p, 3/1/21
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John Francis Donaghy said:
This virus is endemic now. It's never going away. But life has to go back to normal at some point, and as far as I can tell, there's no better treatment or prevention options on the horizon than the vaccines, which, thankfully, are very effective.

Once the last couple of my high-risk family member get the vaccine, my guard will be coming way down. Once the rest of my healthy family members and I have had it, we will all be 100% back to normal. At that point this virus just something we have to live with and accept as a risk of daily life.

I will continue to wear masks without argument where required by private business owners out of respect for their private property rights, and their employees. And just not to be an A hole to someone trying to do their job. But that has more to do with manners and common courteousy than anything.
Also depends on the situation. Are they requiring masks because that is how they feel, or because of social obligation and/or legal pressure?

If they don't really care/enforce it, I won't be wearing one then, either. Even if they technically have it as a rule.

Of course, this is how I feel even before getting the vaccine, let alone after.


I would encourage you to focus on the final sentences of my post.
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