Capitol Ag said:
West Point Aggie said:
What an interesting thread:
1. People have a problem wearing a mask inside a building or business that does NOT belong to them. If said building or business wants to put a security type at the door and deny you access, that is their choice not yours. That shouldn't be that hard to get. I mean don't you control the conditions of the people that visit your business or home? Now if said building does not enforce their own stated "mandates" well too bad for them!
2. Some people have a problem, in general, with other people wearing masks; this personal choice really sticks in the craw of some. It is clear that some people will wear masks from now on regardless of the situation. It will remind me of Asian tourists in New York City 5 -10 years ago who always wore them. I thought they looked peculiar but whatever It looked more like a fashion choice.
3. It is entertaining to watch some "maskless" individuals pose and prance about like peacocks. It becomes quite clear some just want you to see them "without a mask"
4. If Kyle goes full attendance this fall, enforcing any kind of mask mandate will be IMPOSSIBLE.
On point 2, most do not have an issue with the mask wearer per say. It's more about the policy overall they have issues with. They are against a mandate, whether state or individual business or whatever. All I want is for things to be the choice of the individual. Yes, a private business can do what they wish. But if there just isn't a need, it's pointless to continue to mandate a policy. Eventually it will drive business away if people are going maskless more and more every day as vaccinations continue to rise. I'd argue the better policy at this point is "suggest" but do not mandate.
This is where I kind of bang my head into the table. The whole point of wearing a mask is to catch most of the larger droplets that
YOU exhale that will carry the virus and put the virus into the air. Less virus in the air = less possibility of transmission to others. That's the whole ****ing point. My wearing a mask and my choice to wear a mask is not meant to help protect ME from the virus, its meant to protect YOU my neighbor from my possible infection and spread to others. It doesn't matter if 99 out of 100 people in the building are wearing a mask and the 1 out of 100 person isn't -- if that 1 out of 100 person is infectious they will spread it to some % out of the other 99. All that matters is the weakest link, and the person that isn't wearing a mask or is not vaccinated is the weakest link in this scenario that ruins it for others. So it will be that ONE person who doesn't mask, based on their "choice", that infects the others which isn't their "choice". This is why this whole thing was supposed to be based on teamwork and protecting each other and your neighbor, instead we have a bunch of people running around shouting about their freedoms and their choices who either i) clearly don't understand the situation or ii) don't give a damn about others or their neighbor and are only in it for themselves. There is no in-between. Same can be said about vaccination. Get the damn shot so YOU can break the transmission chain and prevent someone else from getting the virus that didn't want it. It shouldn't matter if YOU think your immune system is just fine or you think YOU could beat the virus with ease -- its about making sure the OTHER person you encounter that day, that you live with and work with or just encounter by chance doesn't get sick from the virus which is not THEIR CHOICE. Its about protecting other people besides yourself. All I see on this thread and other threads are about ME ME ME ME ME. Its selfish. Downright ****ing selfish. We shouldn't be thinking about ME but about OTHERS and that's what this whole thing is about, and should have been about this whole ****ing time. Its about the selflessness to think about others which is largely lacking from society today.
Look my posting history on this subject probably paints a different picture than my real thoughts. Should we need to mask outside? I agree its probably overkill. Should vaccinated people mask? There is probably no reason to. HOWEVER -- we as a society can't handle different rules. If we say its ok to unmask outside, we'll have people wanting to unmask in all situations. If we say only vaccinated people can unmask, then suddenly everyone is "vaccinated" so the rules can apply to them and they can skirt around it. Its just like these people with "support" dogs so they can take their dog everywhere. Suddenly everyone is vaccinated or suddenly everyone has a condition that doesn't require them to mask. SELFISH. That's why all of the rules and guidelines should have been built on teamwork as a society, and rules made clear from the beginning. When we reach these levels AS A TEAM, whether its vaccination % or # of cases within the population, then the rules come off for everyone. Not for you just because you're vaccinated, and not just for you because you don't want to get vaccinated. When we all work together to accomplish this goal, then we can be rewarded together and celebrate together. Unfortunately our chosen, elected leaders never had this vision and had clear goals in mind to end this thing and now we all suffer that consequence and are constantly mired in these tired debates.
It really does sadden me and shake my core when I read these posts and threads and see so many people only wanting something for themselves. Even posts talking about thinking of others during this debate getting striked down. Where is "love thy neighbor" anymore? Does anyone care about others anymore?? Maybe the brainwashing of political tribalism on both sides has taken over and thinking of others can no longer occur in our society, or clear thinking away from instant impact on what it means for your particular tribalism. It really does sadden me that so many of these conversations center on whats best of you, yourself. Its why I come and go from these conversations as there is little point to argue when its so clear this mentality has taken hold and most people can not think clearly and rationally for others. I'd like to think there is some population in this country and world that still want to think of others before themselves, but I think that number is drastically declining and the events of the last year have only accelerated that.
I'm sorry Capitol as that is not all meant directly at you, but just this board in general.
