OFFICIAL NARRATIVE PSA. RE: Masks

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ORAggieFan said:

Masks will be a massive form of litter. We need to find an endangered sea turtle stuck in a mask to end this charade.


Save the turtles!!!!
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coolerguy12 said:

bay fan said:

Seems to me this forum has run its course. It's nothing more then a second venue for the politics board folks to push their opinions.

Thankfully, the country seems to have handle on Covid 19 with the vaccine.

We don't need another anti mask, Covid is the flu, vaccines are bad thread. Take it to the politics board if you feel the need to continue to fan the flame.

I'm doing my best to only post Official Narrative content on this board. If something I posted in the OP falls outside the official narrative please bring it to my attention and I'll look at correcting it.

If other posters choose to violate the board rules by talking about things outside the official narrative then feel free to flag and staff will address accordingly.


Genius. Hard for staff to delete your posts if the posts are the official narrative.
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Optics, which is what they were the whole time. Even the best CDC study, with questionable optics and other variables, claimed a 0.5% reduction daily, and 1.9% over 100 days. Again, with other variables, and certainly within statistical chance to begin with.

They were always AT BEST of very marginal benefit. Some cling to them like they are a miracle, though. Crazy. And now I just read an article today trying to push for masks every flu season. IF, and that's a big IF, masks worked for covid, the only reason would be pre and asymptomatic spread. The flu doesn't work the same way. You get symptoms quickly. Masks would do even less for the flu because all you need to do is stay home if you have symptoms. Otherwise healthy people have no business even considering masks at any point moving forward.
coolerguy12
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So in an effort to not send mixed signals about masks he sent mixed signals about the effectiveness of the vaccines?

Is there any doubt that Faucci is a complete dumbass at this point? Seemed obvious 14 months ago but now there are mountains of evidence. I wouldn't trust this guy to take my trash out without finding a way to screw it up.
NASAg03
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Optics and groupthink are a huge part of the problem. And social media censuring opposing scientific opinion.

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beerad12man said:



Optics, which is what they were the whole time. Even the best CDC study, with questionable optics and other variables, claimed a 0.5% reduction daily, and 1.9% over 100 days. Again, with other variables, and certainly within statistical chance to begin with.

They were always AT BEST of very marginal benefit. Some cling to them like they are a miracle, though. Crazy. And now I just read an article today trying to push for masks every flu season. IF, and that's a big IF, masks worked for covid, the only reason would be pre and asymptomatic spread. The flu doesn't work the same way. You get symptoms quickly. Masks would do even less for the flu because all you need to do is stay home if you have symptoms. Otherwise healthy people have no business even considering masks at any point moving forward.
Boom this.

Look, I get it in the early days. Things were weird people didn't really know, etc.

That said, this became more about politics and less about science...
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Yes, they are risk averse, and think very differently than your average human. You do not want these people determining how you have to act / behave. you don't want the CDC, the WHO, epidemiologists, any of them, if you care about freedom of choice at all.
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Can you cite this study so I can share it?
NASAg03
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planoaggie123 said:

Can you cite this study so I can share it?
An evidence review of face masks against COVID-19 (Jan 26, 2021)
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The authors conclude that "community mask use by well people could be beneficial, particularly for COVID-19, where transmission may be pre-symptomatic. The studies of masks as source control also suggest a benefit, and may be important during the COVID-19 pandemic in universal community face mask use as well as in health care settings."
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On the other hand, a preprint systematic review that only included randomized control trials (RCTs) and observational studies concluded, based on the RCTs, that there was only weak evidence for a small effect from mask use in the community, but that the RCTs often suffered from poor compliance and controls. It found that, in observational studies, the evidence in favor of wearing face masks was stronger.
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Overall, direct evidence of the efficacy of mask use is supportive, but inconclusive.
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Overall, population-level studies of the impact of wearing masks suggest that mask use may have been an important driver of differences in SARS-CoV-2 outcomes in different regions.
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Overall, our understanding of the relative merits of different cloth mask designs and materials is still limited...However, there are no modern studies of the efficacy of a full range of mask designs and material combinations, using the most relevant flow rates (at rest or low exertion rate of 15 L/min), and contexts (exhalation from a real person, or simulation using a manikin).

Face masks: what the data say
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Researchers led by microbiologist Kwok-Yung Yuen at the University of Hong Kong housed infected and healthy hamsters in adjoining cages, with surgical-mask partitions separating some of the animals. Without a barrier, about two-thirds of the uninfected animals caught SARS-CoV-2, according to the paper7 published in May. But only about 25% of the animals protected by mask material got infected, and those that did were less sick than their mask-free neighbours (as measured by clinical scores and tissue changes).
Effectiveness of Adding a Mask Recommendation to Other Public Health Measures to Prevent SARS-CoV-2 Infection in Danish Mask Wearers (May 2020)
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Although the difference observed was not statistically significant, the 95% CIs are compatible with a 46% reduction to a 23% increase in infection.
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The recommendation to wear surgical masks to supplement other public health measures did not reduce the SARS-CoV-2 infection rate among wearers by more than 50% in a community with modest infection rates, some degree of social distancing, and uncommon general mask use. The data were compatible with lesser degrees of self-protection.
A rapid systematic review of the efficacy of face masks and respirators against coronaviruses and other respiratory transmissible viruses for the community, healthcare workers and sick patients (Aug 2020)
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The study suggests that community mask use by well people could be beneficial, particularly for COVID-19, where transmission may be pre-symptomatic. The studies of masks as source control also suggest a benefit, and may be important during the COVID-19 pandemic in universal community face mask use as well as in health care settings. Trials in healthcare workers support the use of respirators continuously during a shift. This may prevent health worker infections and deaths from COVID-19, as aerosolisation in the hospital setting has been documented.
EPA Researchers Test Effectiveness of Face Masks


NASAg03
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All that to say there's still no real numbers on how effective masks are, and in some cases there is evidence that they cause more problems.

When randomized trials are performed, the data is inconclusive. When looking for situations (observational studies) that support confirmation bias, low and behold, masks work!

Pretty much every "research paper" closes with "We don't know how effective masks are, but there's plenty of data to support it." And all that evidence is circumstantial and happens to support their hypothesis in the abstract.

That's not good, conclusive science.
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