Question on Second Covid infection

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I'm curious if anyone knows of someone who has had Covid-19 twice. I've heard it happened before but I've yet to read about a scenario. If someone has had it twice, is the second time exactly like the first one or even milder since you already had it once?
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It's been confirmed <10 times across the US so I doubt you'll get any answers
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chickenfingers said:

It's been confirmed <10 times across the US so I doubt you'll get any answers
Thanks - that's almost all I needed to know right there.
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I hate to take coolerguy's place here but it's important to note that...

The official narrative is that reinfections of COVID have been reported, but remain rare

[url] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/your-health/reinfection.html[/url]

However the media narrative is that it's an ever looming threat.
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas

"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul

Big Tech IS the empire of lies

TEXIT
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chickenfingers said:

It's been confirmed <10 times across the US so I doubt you'll get any answers


Yea, but they're all friends or family to people that post on Texags.
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I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.

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AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.


It is everybody's personal right to choose...

I would caution relying on any stats regarding deaths following the administration of the vaccine. Are the post-vaccine deaths directly caused by the vaccine, or did somebody die, of any cause, after taking the vaccine?

People die every day. Most of the people who die are elderly. Most of the people who have been vaccinated are elderly. This makes for a statisticians dream situation. If somebody dies after taking the vaccine, how is cause determined? It is not, necessarily, from taking the vaccine.
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Also, if you can find statistics, look at morbidity results from having had the virus and "recovered". Several doctors on here have cautioned us not to just look at the mortality statistics, having handled cases where the recovery includes long term disabilities.
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AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.




Not to be pedantic, but 4,000 people have died after having received the vaccine, not from the vaccine. You likely don't need to get the vaccine after having Covid, but there is no reason to use false numbers to justify it
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AggieFlyboy said:

AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.




Not to be pedantic, but 4,000 people have died after having received the vaccine, not from the vaccine. You likely don't need to get the vaccine after having Covid, but there is no reason to use false numbers to justify it
False numbers?, maybe a little harsh there.... Adjust the 3837 down as much as you want to account for dying "from" to dying "with"......only ten percent?....the bottom line is still that the chances of dying from a second case of COVID is probably much lower than dying from vaccine side effects. You disagree?
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Reinfection is exceedingly rare, and when it does occur it is almost always in profoundly immunosuppressed patients. I've seen one case, one, that MIGHT have been a true reinfection but I still doubt it.

The vast majority of "reinfections" represent intermittent shedding of inactive viral RNA coupled with either a post-COVID syndrome or a different viral illness.
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AG81xx said:

AggieFlyboy said:

AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.




Not to be pedantic, but 4,000 people have died after having received the vaccine, not from the vaccine. You likely don't need to get the vaccine after having Covid, but there is no reason to use false numbers to justify it
False numbers?, maybe a little harsh there.... Adjust the 3837 down as much as you want to account for dying "from" to dying "with"......only ten percent?....the bottom line is still that the chances of dying from a second case of COVID is probably much lower than dying from vaccine side effects. You disagree?


The chances of dying from either are virtually zero. As another poster pointed out, dying from the vaccine and dying after getting the vaccine are very different things. Every year thousands of Americans die after eating white bread, taking amoxicillin and playing Bingo.
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I had Covid twice and the second time was WAY better than the first. I was mildly symptomatic for roughly two days and fine after that. I didn't even test positive but am sure it was Covid because those are the exact symptoms I had with Covid.
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Madagascar said:

I had Covid twice and the second time was WAY better than the first. I was mildly symptomatic for roughly two days and fine after that. I didn't even test positive but am sure it was Covid because those are the exact symptoms I had with Covid.
Did you take a test after the second set of symptoms and the results were negative? If so, you are sure it was COVID? You might have suffered from one of those syndromes that InfectionAg mentioned...
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I definitely had long term symptoms from getting it the first time but the ones I had the second time were not residual and the full on thing. Just on a much more mild level. My doctor and I are both convinced I had it and my immune system was just doing it's job well enough that the nasal swab came up negative.
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Where in the world did you make up those deaths per vaccine numbers? Source?
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AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.


And of that, was it correlation or causation? Did they happen to die from the vaccine or just die b/c they were severely at risk and just had a lot of health issues already. It's just like the issue with Covid deaths. 500,000 died. But of those, how many would have died anyway given their health conditions? It's one thing for the 38 year old dies from Covid, even with health issues, as the odds are he or she lives. But how many over 80 with serious health problems who were at death's door anyway and would have died anyway? How many who took the vaccine and died were going to die from their other ailments anyway and the vaccine had nothing to do with the death? Further, these very "at risk" patients, if it were the vaccine that did kill them, the odds of them dying from Covid are pretty much 100%. So if they were that much at risk from dying from Covid, you do what you can to treat them even at great risk. Just like when treating patients who are dying from other illnesses and a doctor decides to undergo a procedure that is a very high risk one but if it works could save the patient's life.

What I want to know is the number of low risk, healthy people that have died b/c of the vaccine. Not sure there really have been any.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

AG81xx said:

AggieFlyboy said:

AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.




Not to be pedantic, but 4,000 people have died after having received the vaccine, not from the vaccine. You likely don't need to get the vaccine after having Covid, but there is no reason to use false numbers to justify it
False numbers?, maybe a little harsh there.... Adjust the 3837 down as much as you want to account for dying "from" to dying "with"......only ten percent?....the bottom line is still that the chances of dying from a second case of COVID is probably much lower than dying from vaccine side effects. You disagree?


The chances of dying from either are virtually zero. As another poster pointed out, dying from the vaccine and dying after getting the vaccine are very different things. Every year thousands of Americans die after eating white bread, taking amoxicillin and playing Bingo.
Like the odds of winning the lottery while being attacked by a great white shark. In Iowa.

These vaccines are safe. A ton of people have gotten them and again, who has died that wasn't on death's door or at very high risk and getting Covid would have been an absolute death sentence too. Remember, the point of this was to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed. So the way I see it, if a person died from the vaccine, the odds are their that Covid would have landed them in the hospital and filling up a space and eventually a ventilator.
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Friend's son had it back in June and again about 7 months later. Very mild symptoms both times. Both confirmed positives.
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I know a handful people locally who claim to have had it twice. It's curious to me that these are the same people who always seem to fall into medical curiosities and interesting stories that seem to happen to no one. We all know those people...
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Bluecat_Aggie94 said:

I know a handful people locally who claim to have had it twice. It's curious to me that these are the same people who always seem to fall into medical curiosities and interesting stories that seem to happen to no one. We all know those people...


The most telling aspect of a medical chart is the patient's allergy list. It is inversely correlated to their degree of reasonableness.
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My friend claimed to get it twice. However, I tend to believe that anyone who thinks they got it twice, really just had long-term symptoms. I recovered from covid and then a month later I started getting symptoms again. I thought I got covid again but turns out Im just a Covid Long Hauler (11 months long hauler).
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AG81xx said:

AggieFlyboy said:

AG81xx said:

I posted this on another thread on Politics board:

I had COVID one month ago and I'm debating whether to get the vaccine later this summer (have international travel planned). Here is some math I did from data I gathered from the internet (hard to get accurate data so you may find different numbers).

The math: Chances of dying from vaccine in US = 0.0015% or 1 out of 67,000 (3837 deaths out of 257million doses) vs chances of reinfection from COVID = 0.00015% or 1 in 670,000 cases (50 verified reinfection cases out of 33,500,000 original cases). So I have 10 times more chance of dying from the vaccine than catching COVID again ( but NOT DYING FROM) ..
To put it in perspective, chances of getting hit by lightning in a single year is 1 in 500,000.

So probably shouldn't get vaccine unless forced to.




Not to be pedantic, but 4,000 people have died after having received the vaccine, not from the vaccine. You likely don't need to get the vaccine after having Covid, but there is no reason to use false numbers to justify it
False numbers?, maybe a little harsh there.... Adjust the 3837 down as much as you want to account for dying "from" to dying "with"......only ten percent?....the bottom line is still that the chances of dying from a second case of COVID is probably much lower than dying from vaccine side effects. You disagree?
I would probably argue that they are about the same. If 400 people actually died as a result of the vaccine, then that puts the odds at the same chance of dying from reinfection. I made the choice to get the vaccine mainly because it was insurance. Losing my sense of smell for two weeks sucked, and I'd rather not experience it again.
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My girlfriend and I have both had covid at least 5 times each.

I thought I had it a few times, but was negative each time. My girlfriend has also had it multiple times, but tested negative like 10 times, including the antibody test.

Weird...
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bay fan said:

Where in the world did you make up those deaths per vaccine numbers? Source?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/
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AG81xx said:

bay fan said:

Where in the world did you make up those deaths per vaccine numbers? Source?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/


That site isn't accurate, it even says so on the disclaimer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2LV0NY
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Bruce Almighty said:

AG81xx said:

bay fan said:

Where in the world did you make up those deaths per vaccine numbers? Source?

https://vaers.hhs.gov/


That site isn't accurate, it even says so on the disclaimer.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSL1N2LV0NY

I agree the data doesn't prove causation......Now do COVID
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My frustration is as someone who has had COVID I see little or no real data that shows that I should now get the vaccine, despite the common assertion that natural immunity isn't enough.
If you have good "fact checked" data that shows the odds of serious illness or death caused by the vaccine versus the probability of serious illness or death from a second bout of COVID, please share.
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That's why I brought this up. I had the first shot, then ended up testing positive for Covid a couple of days later. Had really minimal symptoms (lost smell and taste for 5 days). So right now I'm thinking I am going to skip the second shot. Especially if the second covid infection would be even more minor than my first case.
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I knew of one student at Texas A&M who got Covid-19 twice. The first time, he got Covid-19 in April 2020 and the second time he got Covid-19 in February 2021.
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