Yeah it is, I dunno maybe she is a step slow (evidence hip wrap).
**** Game Thread: #9 Texas A&M vs #3 Kentucky ****
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Also a step slow in reading everything. The first set, she was dialed in. Read almost everything. It's alike a mental switch flipped and the focus wasn't there. I think giving Addi a chance is worth it. Our passing is what will carry us or destroy us
Watched much of the contest between distractions, and Kentucky is clrarly the better team. Great effort by our girls.
Swollen Thumb said:
Why did we tip so much? And why can't we cover a tip?
Just got home from the match. This was the biggest area that stood out. When their outside hitters did touch shots over our blockers they found an open area. Ours did not.
It should have easily went to 5 sets. We had opportunities to put the 4th set away and did not do it prior to the last two crappy points.
I think it goes to a lack of communication and confidence in knowing who covers the tip. Our off hitters(Emily and Kendal) have not played all that well off ball tip defense. A lot of the balls that fell were theirs to cover. Well over 10+ between the two tonight. They can dig hard driven balls fairly well, but don't move their feet well with tips
It was pretty obvious this is what Kentucky had planned when our block defense was set up nicely.
We hardly had any blocks in the first 3 sets.
If we play them again I think we will be better prepared.
We hardly had any blocks in the first 3 sets.
If we play them again I think we will be better prepared.
There were so many balls hit "over" the block. The back row wasn't even diving towards the ball.
Wide open shots. That is a destruction of all parts of the Aggie defense.
Scramble plays, and athleticism do not count as defense.
The Aggie defense was scramble and recover.
The Aggie offense was Lednicky.
Wide open shots. That is a destruction of all parts of the Aggie defense.
Scramble plays, and athleticism do not count as defense.
The Aggie defense was scramble and recover.
The Aggie offense was Lednicky.
Ag4eva95 said:
I think it goes to a lack of communication and confidence in knowing who covers the tip. Our off hitters(Emily and Kendal) have not played all that well off ball tip defense. A lot of the balls that fell were theirs to cover. Well over 10+ between the two tonight. They can dig hard driven balls fairly well, but don't move their feet well with tips
We did not cover the cut toll shot to Zone 1 very well and missed a few tips for most part
Our serve receive passes seemed tempo wise good but off the net by 4 to 5 feet further then needed
curious to see the passing stats for both teams this match
I was surprised to see Hellmuth serve most of match rather then Applegate. Dont know reason why but didnt work Hellmuth has four missed serves on 8 total serve attempts. I didnt think it would help in the third set but i thought Applegate would come in for defense when down set poiny in the third knowing we needed a huge run to win. Hellmuth missed the serve but it would have been a hard comeback anyway
both teams missed the same number of serves 11 so no advnatge or disadvantage
Balls hit over the block you can't do anything about except hope you read it right and hope we get a touch. The balls they hit over our block are the actual holes of the defense. Those shots are high IQ and good scouting. We run a perimeter defense with a bit of modification depending on the hitter. The tips we let fall are technically holes of the defense, but there is no reason to let as many tips hit the floor that we allowed tonight
Nice, I really respect your expertise. I'm always curious to learn more.
She did not serve the entire match. Had two errors her first two serves. Did not matter bc we won the 1st set. Applegate switched out with her a few times.
Just guessing she has served better in practice recently and is the reason Jaime was testing this one out.
Ags played pretty well overall except that 3rd set lots of unforced errors.
Kentucky did great with their moment on the court. Very well oiled machine at times.
Just guessing she has served better in practice recently and is the reason Jaime was testing this one out.
Ags played pretty well overall except that 3rd set lots of unforced errors.
Kentucky did great with their moment on the court. Very well oiled machine at times.
Im going to finish watching tonight had an event to go to but why do yall think we started playing worse or did we even play worse ? What do we need to work on ? that 4th set score is scary
Hellmuth 8 serves 4 service errors
Applegate 2 serves
They made a switch from previous matches not sure if Hellmuth had been doing weel in practice or they wanted a extra attacker for that rotation out of back row
Applegate 2 serves
They made a switch from previous matches not sure if Hellmuth had been doing weel in practice or they wanted a extra attacker for that rotation out of back row
Why are you repeating what you already stated?
Showing the comparison for the match and for something we havent seen in last month plus in terms of change that is all
Just got back from the game. The first set went well and both sides were very competitive.
Then Kentucky figured out exactly where our weaknesses were and exploited it over and over.
Tip coverage was incredibly bad. Even on good sets, the kentucky RS still tipped for easy points.
They set the OH 90% of the time, yet our middles were late to the block a lot. Granted, middles can't cheat too much but there were giant holes between the two blockers. If the block was there, then they tipped to the corner that we refused to cover until set 4 or a sharp angle shot that Hellmuth couldn't dig. They basically avoided our block. They tested it in the 4th and we started getting blocks again so UK reverted to what was working.
I don't think our offensive gameplan was good. I agree with using Lednicky more. You have to use your star(s) in games like this but I don't know why we didn't set the middles more. We strayed away from our usual offense a bit too much. We generally go straight to the middles to open a set. Not sure we did that once.
I feel KU is very versatile in doing what it takes to win games by exploiting weaknesses. Our Aggies seem to be more about power and just shoving it down opponent's throats so when we are in system, we do well. If we are scrambling around, we don't.
I don't know exactly how SMU did to beat us soundly as I couldn't stomach watching a replay of that but did they do the same thing to us?
Then Kentucky figured out exactly where our weaknesses were and exploited it over and over.
Tip coverage was incredibly bad. Even on good sets, the kentucky RS still tipped for easy points.
They set the OH 90% of the time, yet our middles were late to the block a lot. Granted, middles can't cheat too much but there were giant holes between the two blockers. If the block was there, then they tipped to the corner that we refused to cover until set 4 or a sharp angle shot that Hellmuth couldn't dig. They basically avoided our block. They tested it in the 4th and we started getting blocks again so UK reverted to what was working.
I don't think our offensive gameplan was good. I agree with using Lednicky more. You have to use your star(s) in games like this but I don't know why we didn't set the middles more. We strayed away from our usual offense a bit too much. We generally go straight to the middles to open a set. Not sure we did that once.
I feel KU is very versatile in doing what it takes to win games by exploiting weaknesses. Our Aggies seem to be more about power and just shoving it down opponent's throats so when we are in system, we do well. If we are scrambling around, we don't.
I don't know exactly how SMU did to beat us soundly as I couldn't stomach watching a replay of that but did they do the same thing to us?
Somewhat similar loss to SMU. Livings caught fire and is turning into the all American people thought she could be. SMU has a seasoned setter that could spread the ball well. More athletic middles too
Ag4eva95 said:
Somewhat similar loss to SMU. Livings caught fire and is turning into the all American people thought she could be. SMU has a seasoned setter that could spread the ball well. More athletic middles too
Probably being one of the top handful of collegiate setters in the country plays into it more than being "seasoned," but it's hard to gainsay that she's a senior (no RS or COVID year). Well traveled too if that was the implication.
Great write up.
On UK exploiting our defense with the tips when we set up our blockers properly, 100%. Brought that one up earlier. Drove me crazy.
UK's 6 ft 6 in middle blocker probably had us a little concerned going to the middle. But I agree we did not do it often enough.
Logan clearly got tired. She got to 21 kills early in set 4. 7 & 17 for UK around 15 at that time. Logan never finished another kill and had a couple of big chances at the end of the set. Both UK's studs caught her.
Just several key points where we let a ball drop that should not have bc. of bad communication.
I do also want to note. In the first set, Cos-Okpalla's serve ate them up. But UK started receiving it in the following sets which was nuts. I was not pleased. They are a solid team.
I really would have liked to see what would have happened in a 5th set. Stupid net violations.
On UK exploiting our defense with the tips when we set up our blockers properly, 100%. Brought that one up earlier. Drove me crazy.
UK's 6 ft 6 in middle blocker probably had us a little concerned going to the middle. But I agree we did not do it often enough.
Logan clearly got tired. She got to 21 kills early in set 4. 7 & 17 for UK around 15 at that time. Logan never finished another kill and had a couple of big chances at the end of the set. Both UK's studs caught her.
Just several key points where we let a ball drop that should not have bc. of bad communication.
I do also want to note. In the first set, Cos-Okpalla's serve ate them up. But UK started receiving it in the following sets which was nuts. I was not pleased. They are a solid team.
I really would have liked to see what would have happened in a 5th set. Stupid net violations.
Our ball control was just too inconsistent to beat a top team.
LB12Diamond said:
UK's 6 ft 6 in middle blocker probably had us a little concerned going to the middle. But I agree we did not do it often enough.
Just several key points where we let a ball drop that should not have bc. of bad communication.
I think you still have to keep their MB honest. Maybe be creative on set placement and shot angle. It's just one blocker... easier said than done though.
I don't know much about defense but letting balls drop more than once a game is not good. I distinctly remember one drop between 3 girls with Tatum as libero. If you are libero and it is within your reach, it's yours. Not trying to call her out but I just remember this one more clearly.
We seem to play some kind of zone coverage and when the ball is hit between girls, no one is sure whose ball it is. We lose so many points when the ball is hit between the libero and middle back defender. If Ava is second guessing, then she's already lost a step. I wonder if expanding her coverage area might help her think and move faster. We know she can do it. If Morrison can get the defense back to end of last year's form, then we will be dangerous. Otherwise, it will take a lot of luck to beat the top teams.
I think that although we can set the middle more the times when we could in system that was also the most effective we were on with our pins with a definite gap in the block
Hellmuth had to deal with the tall middle a bit more and tipped a few too many times which they were able to defend and convert
Kentucky started targeting Stowers in serve receive a lot more because while tempo was good her passes were much futher off the net. I think Waak did really well getting some swings for us when she was way off the net
Basically Eva Hudson killed us on the outside...minimal errors and 24 kills.
That fourth set could have gone either way and who knows what would have happened on the 5th set but we showed we are formidible even without having our best day
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Cos hit zero for the match and we were still in it
Hellmuth had to deal with the tall middle a bit more and tipped a few too many times which they were able to defend and convert
Kentucky started targeting Stowers in serve receive a lot more because while tempo was good her passes were much futher off the net. I think Waak did really well getting some swings for us when she was way off the net
Basically Eva Hudson killed us on the outside...minimal errors and 24 kills.
That fourth set could have gone either way and who knows what would have happened on the 5th set but we showed we are formidible even without having our best day
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Cos hit zero for the match and we were still in it
flintdragon said:
Just got back from the game. The first set went well and both sides were very competitive.
Then Kentucky figured out exactly where our weaknesses were and exploited it over and over.
Tip coverage was incredibly bad. Even on good sets, the kentucky RS still tipped for easy points.
They set the OH 90% of the time, yet our middles were late to the block a lot. Granted, middles can't cheat too much but there were giant holes between the two blockers. If the block was there, then they tipped to the corner that we refused to cover until set 4 or a sharp angle shot that Hellmuth couldn't dig. They basically avoided our block. They tested it in the 4th and we started getting blocks again so UK reverted to what was working.
I don't think our offensive gameplan was good. I agree with using Lednicky more. You have to use your star(s) in games like this but I don't know why we didn't set the middles more. We strayed away from our usual offense a bit too much. We generally go straight to the middles to open a set. Not sure we did that once.
I feel KU is very versatile in doing what it takes to win games by exploiting weaknesses. Our Aggies seem to be more about power and just shoving it down opponent's throats so when we are in system, we do well. If we are scrambling around, we don't.
I don't know exactly how SMU did to beat us soundly as I couldn't stomach watching a replay of that but did they do the same thing to us?
Good analysis
Passing stats for match according to the guy who has access to them and has a huge technical knoledge of those stats
Kentucky
Deleye 2.25 (44)
Tuozzo 2.24 (13)
Hudson 2.23 (13)
Texas A&M
Stowers 2.32 (39)
Underwood 2.29 (21)
Applegate 2.36 (18)
Hellmuth 2.57 (7)
Kentucky
Deleye 2.25 (44)
Tuozzo 2.24 (13)
Hudson 2.23 (13)
Texas A&M
Stowers 2.32 (39)
Underwood 2.29 (21)
Applegate 2.36 (18)
Hellmuth 2.57 (7)
What do those numbers represent? I confess I am not familiar with passing stats.
akm91 said:
What do those numbers represent? I confess I am not familiar with passing stats.
Every serve receive a player takes is graded on a scale of 0-3.
3 - perfect pass to the setter who is able to set all three attackers
2 - decent pass but setter can only set 2, usually the outside or opposite
1 - bad pass but at least the ball is in play
0 - shank, got aced
Average it up. Generally a 2.30 is considered a very good passing night.
Wicked Good Ag said:
Texas A&M
Stowers 2.32 (39)
Underwood 2.29 (21)
Applegate 2.36 (18)
Hellmuth 2.57 (7)
We did well. I didn't think serve receive was an issue.
Wish there was a way to grade digs? Not letting the ball hit the floor is goal #1 but the dig needs to translate to an good attack opportunity which I think we are poor at. But I could be wrong. We aren't as good out of system.
flintdragon said:Wicked Good Ag said:
Texas A&M
Stowers 2.32 (39)
Underwood 2.29 (21)
Applegate 2.36 (18)
Hellmuth 2.57 (7)
We did well. I didn't think serve receive was an issue.
Wish there was a way to grade digs? Not letting the ball hit the floor is goal #1 but the dig needs to translate to an good attack opportunity which I think we are poor at. But I could be wrong. We aren't as good out of system.
I agree, being there in person sitting on the end, it was very evident how good of an overall serving team Kentucky is and I thought this was one of the best serve receive nights I've seen all year.
It was also very evident that Hudson and DeLaye were just hitting right over the top of Waak, too many missiles coming at them that we got no hands on.
Crazy thought I just had. UK head coach is in his 21st year there and has an established great program. Just think how Jaime is just starting off at A&M but on a great trajectory and I like the idea of him establishing just as strong a program here.
LB12Diamond said:
Crazy thought I just had. UK head coach is in his 21st year there and has an established great program. Just think how Jaime is just starting off at A&M but on a great trajectory and I like the idea of him establishing just as strong a program here.
I don't know what Morrison's long term plans are but it certainly looks like he has some big goals for this program. He's done a lot of other stuff in the volleyball world so maybe something else might interest him. But we are damn lucky to have him now.
My hope is he establishes a long term top program. It'll take several more years of strong recruiting. This year is kind of like Buzz's last year. A whole lot of seniors and then Buzz left. But difference is Buzz didn't recruit well. Morrison is already building a strong pipeline but next year may be painfully young. Need to somehow keep momentum going.
It will be interesting with the NCAA maybe going to a 5th year of eligibility in football and if other sports are included
I would think Lednicky and Cos would start pro careers but would any others come back to run it back depending on how we do this season
I would think Lednicky and Cos would start pro careers but would any others come back to run it back depending on how we do this season
Wicked Good Ag said:
Passing stats for match according to the guy who has access to them and has a huge technical knoledge of those stats
Kentucky
Deleye 2.25 (44)
Tuozzo 2.24 (13)
Hudson 2.23 (13)
Texas A&M
Stowers 2.32 (39)
Underwood 2.29 (21)
Applegate 2.36 (18)
Hellmuth 2.57 (7)
Where can these be found and why is this not an official NCAA stat?
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